Call for expiration delay

I was an early adopter of Money Plus and as a result, my copy says it will
expire 9/5/2009.

Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for the
"fall release" of Quicken.

Please Microsoft. I'm asking you to delay the expiration of Money Plus
until we have a fair chance to buy, download, and convert to Quicken 2010
before Money Plus online updates stop working.

Bruce.

I second this request. Same situation here. Thank you.

"Bruce." wrote:

> I was an early adopter of Money Plus and as a result, my copy says it will
> expire 9/5/2009.
>
> Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for the
> "fall release" of Quicken.
>
> Please Microsoft. I'm asking you to delay the expiration of Money Plus
> until we have a fair chance to buy, download, and convert to Quicken 2010
> before Money Plus online updates stop working.
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>

your a bunch of cry babies, stop bitc**** talk about other things

"Catherine" wrote:

> I second this request. Same situation here. Thank you.
>
> "Bruce." wrote:
>
> > I was an early adopter of Money Plus and as a result, my copy says it will
> > expire 9/5/2009.
> >
> > Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for the
> > "fall release" of Quicken.
> >
> > Please Microsoft. I'm asking you to delay the expiration of Money Plus
> > until we have a fair chance to buy, download, and convert to Quicken 2010
> > before Money Plus online updates stop working.
> >
> > Bruce.
> >
> >
> >

What an uncalled-for remark, rude as well.

"Cube" wrote:

> your a bunch of cry babies, stop bitc**** talk about other things
>
> "Catherine" wrote:
>
> > I second this request. Same situation here. Thank you.
> >
> > "Bruce." wrote:
> >
> > > I was an early adopter of Money Plus and as a result, my copy says it will
> > > expire 9/5/2009.
> > >
> > > Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for the
> > > "fall release" of Quicken.
> > >
> > > Please Microsoft. I'm asking you to delay the expiration of Money Plus
> > > until we have a fair chance to buy, download, and convert to Quicken 2010
> > > before Money Plus online updates stop working.
> > >
> > > Bruce.
> > >
> > >
> > >

I would be incredibly skeptical of this assertion. To make a fall release
they'd have to be essentially done now. Which means they would have had to
start a year and a half ago. This is not an easy or simple software
engineering problem.

Maybe it's true, but I would plan on doing whatever you feel you must do
with the assumption that this either won't ever happen or will not provide a
very good migration if it does happen.

"Bruce." <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for
> the "fall release" of Quicken.

I claim no prognostic capability; your prediction may well be correct: but
I don't fully agree with your assumptions.

First: I'm not sure how you have determined how long it would take to
provide an "improved converter program", but it seems likely that it would
take less time than it would to produce a completely new converter program
.... and a year and half sounds kinda long even for that. There is already
a "converter program" to build on; Intuit isn't (necessarily) starting
from scratch.

Second: if I interpret the smoke signals correctly, Microsoft will be
helping Intuit with this conversion. If true, that could make a
significant difference in the amount of effort required and the
usefullness of the resulting product.

Third: the "fall release", if it occurs when other Quicken "fall" releases
have occurred, will first appear in August, nearly two months from now.
The upcoming "fall" release is not even in beta yet. I think it's likely
there is code still being written.

But one should not assume that the initial release of a new year version
of Quicken will be the final release of that version. Apparently unlike
Microsoft, Intuit has no qualms about patching a new version after its
initial release: Q2008 has had nine patches; and Q2009 (initially released
in the fall of Q2008) has had six patches ... the most recent occuring in
May 2009. [If Q2010 followed a similar pattern to Q2009, May of 2010
would still be well ahead of the "end" of Money, even assuming one felt
obliged to get out before the 2011 deadline.]

My guess is that Intuit has enough time to fix the problems in its Data
Converter in time to be part of the final release of Q2010 ... whether
they succeed or not is another question.

Fourth: Quicken is sold with a 60 day money back guarantee; so there will
be an opportunity to get your money back if not satisified with the
results. If I were buying Quicken retail, and I had any qualms about the
quality of the product, I would probably wait until sometime after the end
of the year before buying the new version.

Fifth: I realize that changes can be traumatic, and no conversion process
I have ever seen has been ideal. But I also think that when the dust
clears, even if one had to use QIF files to convert, the difficulties of
the conversion process will be relatively quickly forgotten for most
users; though some will likely have a bad experience ... as is almost
always the case. And if Intuit makes a meaningful improvement to the
existing Data Converter, the conversion could be "relatively" easy, as
conversions go.

Last: I would wager that some soon-to-be-ex Money users will be happier
after they finish converting than they were before ... despite their
pre-conversion trepidations, and even despite whatever conversion problems
they experience.


Dick Watson wrote:
> I would be incredibly skeptical of this assertion. To make a fall
> release they'd have to be essentially done now. Which means they
> would have had to start a year and a half ago. This is not an easy or
> simple software engineering problem.
>
> Maybe it's true, but I would plan on doing whatever you feel you must
> do with the assumption that this either won't ever happen or will not
> provide a very good migration if it does happen.
>
> "Bruce." <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time
>> for the "fall release" of Quicken.

--

John Pollard

I agree. Whether I end up with Quicken or something else, I plan to forget
about converting and just start over from scratch.

What a PIA. Thanks for nothing, MS. Yeah, I know you're complaining that you
didn't make enough money with Money. Whatever. I'd happily pay twice the
price for a good product.

Jeez, maybe I'll have to go back to using paper files.



"Dick Watson" <> wrote in
message news:egBc$...
>I would be incredibly skeptical of this assertion. To make a fall release
>they'd have to be essentially done now. Which means they would have had to
>start a year and a half ago. This is not an easy or simple software
>engineering problem.
>
> Maybe it's true, but I would plan on doing whatever you feel you must do
> with the assumption that this either won't ever happen or will not provide
> a very good migration if it does happen.
>
> "Bruce." <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Intuit predicts they will have a improved converter program in time for
>> the "fall release" of Quicken.
>

You must be seeing better smoke signals than I am.

"John Pollard" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Second: if I interpret the smoke signals correctly, Microsoft will be
> helping Intuit with this conversion.

You weren't recently laid off by Microsoft, per chance?

"Cube" <> wrote in message
news:9F7307C7-FCF4-4F21-A062-...
> your a bunch of cry babies, stop bitc**** talk about other things

> Maybe it's true, but I would plan on doing whatever you feel you must do
> with the assumption that this either won't ever happen or will not provide
> a very good migration if it does happen.

In any case, it will cost MS nothing to delay the expiration until after
Quicken 2010 is released.

Bruce.