Cameron to reform welfare system

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...m-dba1618.html

Cameron to reform welfare system


David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
unemployment.




The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".

The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
government turned blue.

Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.

Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
use of the private and voluntary sector.

Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
the first place.

The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
incapacity benefit are capable of working.

There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
university places next year, he said.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT), ""
<> wrote:

>http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...m-dba1618.html
>
>Cameron to reform welfare system
>
>
> David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
>in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
>unemployment.
>
>
>
>
>The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
>Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".
>
>The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
>government turned blue.
>
>Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
>that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
>alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>
>Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
>to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
>use of the private and voluntary sector.
>
>Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
>savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
>the first place.
>
>The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
>medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
>incapacity benefit are capable of working.

Wonder where he will get 2.6 million employers willing to take on
someone with a health problem

>
>There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
>university places next year, he said.

He has the room and the jobs?

In the Extra Info section of the HB claim form
<e75c967f-dcaa-4741-adde->,
"" <> writes
>http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...welfare-system
>-dba1618.html
>
>Cameron to reform welfare system
>

Just shoot me now

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Local government: whenever we look like making ends meet, they move the ends

On 4 Oct, 18:14, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...rm-welfare-sys...
>
> >Cameron to reform welfare system
>
> > * * * * * * David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
> >in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
> >unemployment.
>
> >The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
> >Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".
>
> >The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
> >government turned blue.
>
> >Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
> >that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
> >alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>
> >Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
> >to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
> >use of the private and voluntary sector.
>
> >Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
> >savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
> >the first place.
>
> >The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
> >medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
> >incapacity benefit are capable of working.
>
> Wonder where he will get 2.6 million employers willing to take on
> someone with a health problem
>
>
>
> >There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
> >university places next year, he said.
>
> He has the room and the jobs?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well Labour gave an extra 10,000 university places too. Many
universities didn't take them up on the offer, they weren't given the
money for the extra 10,000. So expecting the universities to subsidise
the government......

Extra apprenticeships may be possible (not so sure so many are
possible), apprentices are relatively cheap and do build some skills
up from college too. And don't have to be kept on afterwards.
Also depends on finding people willing to do apprenticeships in that
type of work in that area.

Martin <><

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT), ""
<> wrote:

>On 4 Oct, 18:14, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...rm-welfare-sys...
>>
>> >Cameron to reform welfare system
>>
>> > * * * * * * David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
>> >in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
>> >unemployment.
>>
>> >The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
>> >Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".
>>
>> >The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
>> >government turned blue.
>>
>> >Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
>> >that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
>> >alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>>
>> >Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
>> >to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
>> >use of the private and voluntary sector.
>>
>> >Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
>> >savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
>> >the first place.
>>
>> >The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
>> >medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
>> >incapacity benefit are capable of working.
>>
>> Wonder where he will get 2.6 million employers willing to take on
>> someone with a health problem
>>
>>
>>
>> >There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
>> >university places next year, he said.
>>
>> He has the room and the jobs?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Well Labour gave an extra 10,000 university places too. Many
>universities didn't take them up on the offer, they weren't given the
>money for the extra 10,000. So expecting the universities to subsidise
>the government......
>
>Extra apprenticeships may be possible (not so sure so many are
>possible), apprentices are relatively cheap and do build some skills
>up from college too. And don't have to be kept on afterwards.
>Also depends on finding people willing to do apprenticeships in that
>type of work in that area.
>
And if the apprentices are under 18 it will mean every employee being
CRB checked.

On 4 Oct, 19:00, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On 4 Oct, 18:14, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>
> >> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...rm-welfare-sys....
>
> >> >Cameron to reform welfare system
>
> >> > * * * * * * David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
> >> >in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
> >> >unemployment.
>
> >> >The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
> >> >Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".
>
> >> >The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
> >> >government turned blue.
>
> >> >Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
> >> >that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
> >> >alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>
> >> >Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
> >> >to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
> >> >use of the private and voluntary sector.
>
> >> >Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
> >> >savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
> >> >the first place.
>
> >> >The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
> >> >medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
> >> >incapacity benefit are capable of working.
>
> >> Wonder where he will get 2.6 million employers willing to take on
> >> someone with a health problem
>
> >> >There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
> >> >university places next year, he said.
>
> >> He has the room and the jobs?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Well Labour gave an extra 10,000 university places too. Many
> >universities didn't take them up on the offer, they weren't given the
> >money for the extra 10,000. So expecting the universities to subsidise
> >the government......
>
> >Extra apprenticeships may be possible (not so sure so many are
> >possible), apprentices are relatively cheap and do build some skills
> >up from college too. And don't have to be kept on afterwards.
> >Also depends on finding people willing to do apprenticeships in that
> >type of work in that area.
>
> And if the apprentices are under 18 it will mean every employee being
> CRB checked.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Or ISA checked.


Martin <><

<> wrote in message
news:e75c967f-dcaa-4741-adde-...
> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...m-dba1618.html
>
> Cameron to reform welfare system
>

By taking credit for the new ESA scheme currently in operation, which he is
going to put into operation if he becomes PM. Do cunts like him ever do
anything that has not been done already. He will tell us next that he is
going to create a free health care system.



>
> David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
> in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
> unemployment.
>

I dont believe for one minute that they will get rid of the likes of A4e, if
anything we will have more mindless courses.



>
>
>
> The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
> Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".

Really, all this begs the question, why now! when he and the rest of them
have done jack **** for more than a decade.




>
> The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
> government turned blue.
>
> Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
> that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
> alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>
> Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
> to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
> use of the private and voluntary sector.

The aim is to take £25 off half a million IB claimants to pay for, wait for
it!...... training. Now where the **** have I heard that word before, oh
yes, every **** in the JC/ND, and every mindless course provider in the land
has been telling us this shite for the last 10 years or more, there isnt a
single office open to the unemployed that does not have BS training posters
plastered all over the walls. If government training schemes are anything to
go by, you can expect anything but training.



>
> Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
> savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
> the first place.
>

That is all they ever do, change rules to make it more awkward to claim
benefit. The system will stay the same, only we will have to attend more
mindless CV courses for longer periods.




> The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
> medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
> incapacity benefit are capable of working.


ESA regime anyone It shows Cameron has absolutely no initative or
imagination. To come up with an idea for a regime which has been in place
since last year, brilliant. Saves having to do anything at all if he becomes
PM, typical of our lazy arsed MP's.



>
> There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
> university places next year, he said.

Yeah right, and pigs fly. That is not going to help the millions we have on
the dole.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT), ""
<> wrote:

>On 4 Oct, 19:00, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 4 Oct, 18:14, Fedup <inva...@invalid.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT), "mart2...@hotmail.com"
>>
>> >> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091004/...rm-welfare-sys...
>>
>> >> >Cameron to reform welfare system
>>
>> >> > Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* David Cameron says he would scrap Labour working schemes
>> >> >in a "very radical" reform of the wefare system to ease rising
>> >> >unemployment.
>>
>> >> >The Opposition leader has set out plans as he pledges to make the
>> >> >Tories "the party of jobs and opportunities".
>>
>> >> >The New Deal and Train to Gain programs would be scrapped if the next
>> >> >government turned blue.
>>
>> >> >Mr Cameron said an explanation of the "tough and difficult" choices
>> >> >that would be required to find the money would be published on Monday
>> >> >alongside the details of the Get Britain Working shake-up.
>>
>> >> >Among promises are faster help for the young jobless and more efforts
>> >> >to get people off incapacity benefit, with a "much more aggressive"
>> >> >use of the private and voluntary sector.
>>
>> >> >Rules will be changed to allow payment by results with anticipated
>> >> >savings from welfare bills available up front to get people jobs in
>> >> >the first place.
>>
>> >> >The package was also said to involve the introduction of rigorous
>> >> >medical checks to to establish whether the 2.6 million people claiming
>> >> >incapacity benefit are capable of working.
>>
>> >> Wonder where he will get 2.6 million employers willing to take on
>> >> someone with a health problem
>>
>> >> >There would also be 200,000 extra apprenticeships and 10,000 extra
>> >> >university places next year, he said.
>>
>> >> He has the room and the jobs?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >Well Labour gave an extra 10,000 university places too. Many
>> >universities didn't take them up on the offer, they weren't given the
>> >money for the extra 10,000. So expecting the universities to subsidise
>> >the government......
>>
>> >Extra apprenticeships may be possible (not so sure so many are
>> >possible), apprentices are relatively cheap and do build some skills
>> >up from college too. And don't have to be kept on afterwards.
>> >Also depends on finding people willing to do apprenticeships in that
>> >type of work in that area.
>>
>> And if the apprentices are under 18 it will mean every employee being
>> CRB checked.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Or ISA checked.
>
The start of more youth unemployment
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Theatre as a result of the red tape associated with the new vetting
and barring scheme.

It says it regrets no longer being able to offer opportunities young
actors, and the fact that without them it will no longer be able to
stage popular plays including some works by Shakespeare and its recent
production of Brassed Off.

But the successful, small theatre company says the decision has been
forced on it by the “legislative crassness bordering on insanity� of
Government safeguarding legislation.

In a letter to his local Labour MP and the prospective parliamentary
candidates for the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, Michael Rayns,
the chairman of the Loft Theatre Company, wrote: “At a meeting if the
trustees of the Loft Theatre Company on Saturday morning last, it was
resolved not, in future, to use persons under the age of 18 in any
productions. "