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      01-09-2010, 12:49 PM
8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been given a
date for a tribunal hearing.

As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?

 
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      01-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Niteawk wrote:
> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been given a
> date for a tribunal hearing.
>
> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?


You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main phase"
of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you are into
your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an "assessment
phase" and you will remain in that phase until your appeal is heard. In
a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into that phase until the
appeal is heard.
 
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      01-09-2010, 07:01 PM

"Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Niteawk wrote:
>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been given a
>> date for a tribunal hearing.
>>
>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?

>
> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main phase"
> of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you are into
> your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an "assessment
> phase" and you will remain in that phase until your appeal is heard. In a
> way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into that phase until the appeal
> is heard.


Oh well, **** happens.

I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005 to
2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF is that
about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should have my NIC's
paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.

Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a full
pension.

 
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      01-09-2010, 07:21 PM
Niteawk wrote:
>
> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Niteawk wrote:
>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been
>>> given a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>
>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?

>>
>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main
>> phase" of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you
>> are into your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an
>> "assessment phase" and you will remain in that phase until your appeal
>> is heard. In a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into that phase
>> until the appeal is heard.

>
> Oh well, **** happens.
>
> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005 to
> 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF is
> that about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should have my
> NIC's paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.
>
> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a
> full pension.


If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry as
the qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing to 30
years of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?) years for a
man. I think you will have nothing to worry about, though I can't say
this with 100% certainty (Mike should know this more than I will).
 
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      01-09-2010, 08:29 PM

"Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Niteawk wrote:
>>
>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been given
>>>> a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>>
>>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?
>>>
>>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main phase"
>>> of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you are into
>>> your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an "assessment
>>> phase" and you will remain in that phase until your appeal is heard. In
>>> a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into that phase until the
>>> appeal is heard.

>>
>> Oh well, **** happens.
>>
>> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005 to
>> 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF is that
>> about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should have my NIC's
>> paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.
>>
>> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a full
>> pension.

>
> If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry as the
> qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing to 30 years
> of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?) years for a man. I
> think you will have nothing to worry about, though I can't say this with
> 100% certainty (Mike should know this more than I will).



I dont unfortunately, they say I have 29 yrs. The only reason they are doing
that I suppose is to stop people claiming social.

 
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      01-09-2010, 10:31 PM
Niteawk wrote:
>
> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>
>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been
>>>>> given a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?
>>>>
>>>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main
>>>> phase" of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you
>>>> are into your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an
>>>> "assessment phase" and you will remain in that phase until your
>>>> appeal is heard. In a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into
>>>> that phase until the appeal is heard.
>>>
>>> Oh well, **** happens.
>>>
>>> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005
>>> to 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF
>>> is that about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should
>>> have my NIC's paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.
>>>
>>> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a
>>> full pension.

>>
>> If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry as
>> the qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing to 30
>> years of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?) years for a
>> man. I think you will have nothing to worry about, though I can't say
>> this with 100% certainty (Mike should know this more than I will).

>
>
> I dont unfortunately, they say I have 29 yrs. The only reason they are
> doing that I suppose is to stop people claiming social.


But you're not 64? If so, you will be OK, you will fulfill the
conditions for a full pension when you reach retirement age.

One year off full contributions is only 1/44 at current rules, it
amounts to next to nothing, less than 2.50 a week I think. Unless you
are a millionaire it won't affect you much...
 
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      01-10-2010, 11:32 AM
"Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Niteawk wrote:
>>
>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been
>>>>>> given a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main
>>>>> phase" of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you
>>>>> are into your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an
>>>>> "assessment phase" and you will remain in that phase until your appeal
>>>>> is heard. In a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into that phase
>>>>> until the appeal is heard.
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, **** happens.
>>>>
>>>> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005 to
>>>> 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF is
>>>> that about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should have my
>>>> NIC's paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a
>>>> full pension.
>>>
>>> If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry as
>>> the qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing to 30
>>> years of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?) years for a
>>> man. I think you will have nothing to worry about, though I can't say
>>> this with 100% certainty (Mike should know this more than I will).

>>
>>
>> I dont unfortunately, they say I have 29 yrs. The only reason they are
>> doing that I suppose is to stop people claiming social.

>
> But you're not 64? If so, you will be OK, you will fulfill the conditions
> for a full pension when you reach retirement age.
>

I hope Niteawk is not even over 60, because if he is, he should probably be
on Pension Credits, not waiting for an ESA appeal, but the DWP would have
told him this, wouldn't they?
Have we been suffering for months when the obvious has been overlooked ;-)

 
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      01-10-2010, 12:46 PM
Harry Stottle wrote:
> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>
>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been
>>>>>>> given a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main
>>>>>> phase" of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after
>>>>>> you are into your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are
>>>>>> in an "assessment phase" and you will remain in that phase until
>>>>>> your appeal is heard. In a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen
>>>>>> into that phase until the appeal is heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well, **** happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from
>>>>> 2005 to 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment
>>>>> apparently. WTF is that about? I was signing the dole for that
>>>>> period, and should have my NIC's paid. JC staff fking about again
>>>>> methinks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get
>>>>> a full pension.
>>>>
>>>> If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry
>>>> as the qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing
>>>> to 30 years of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?)
>>>> years for a man. I think you will have nothing to worry about,
>>>> though I can't say this with 100% certainty (Mike should know this
>>>> more than I will).
>>>
>>>
>>> I dont unfortunately, they say I have 29 yrs. The only reason they
>>> are doing that I suppose is to stop people claiming social.

>>
>> But you're not 64? If so, you will be OK, you will fulfill the
>> conditions for a full pension when you reach retirement age.
>>

> I hope Niteawk is not even over 60, because if he is, he should probably
> be on Pension Credits, not waiting for an ESA appeal, but the DWP would
> have told him this, wouldn't they?
> Have we been suffering for months when the obvious has been overlooked ;-)


Indeed! I'm guessing he hasn't quite turned 60 yet...
 
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      01-11-2010, 03:52 AM

"Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Harry Stottle wrote:
>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robbie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> Niteawk wrote:
>>>>>>>> 8 months have passed since I appealed, and I still have not been
>>>>>>>> given a date for a tribunal hearing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I am on the sick, do I qualify for cold weather payments?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't as entitlement to a CWP requires you to be in the "main
>>>>>>> phase" of your ESA claim and the main phase only commences after you
>>>>>>> are into your 92nd day of your ESA claim. Until then you are in an
>>>>>>> "assessment phase" and you will remain in that phase until your
>>>>>>> appeal is heard. In a way, and pardon the pun, you are frozen into
>>>>>>> that phase until the appeal is heard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh well, **** happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got a letter from HMRC saying there is a gap in my NIC's from 2005
>>>>>> to 2008, I am one year short of full pension payment apparently. WTF
>>>>>> is that about? I was signing the dole for that period, and should
>>>>>> have my NIC's paid. JC staff fking about again methinks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know anything about this? fcked if I am paying 7.75 to get a
>>>>>> full pension.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you turn 65 after April this year (2010) you don't need to worry as
>>>>> the qualifying period for a full pension changes. It is changing to 30
>>>>> years of your adult working life, from the current 44 (?) years for a
>>>>> man. I think you will have nothing to worry about, though I can't say
>>>>> this with 100% certainty (Mike should know this more than I will).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I dont unfortunately, they say I have 29 yrs. The only reason they are
>>>> doing that I suppose is to stop people claiming social.
>>>
>>> But you're not 64? If so, you will be OK, you will fulfill the
>>> conditions for a full pension when you reach retirement age.
>>>

>> I hope Niteawk is not even over 60, because if he is, he should probably
>> be on Pension Credits, not waiting for an ESA appeal, but the DWP would
>> have told him this, wouldn't they?
>> Have we been suffering for months when the obvious has been overlooked
>> ;-)

>
> Indeed! I'm guessing he hasn't quite turned 60 yet...


Unforunately I am well short of the 60 mark, at least it shows I have worked
most of my life, its only since the country has been fcked up by our looney
government allowing every one in, that I have not been able to get a
worthwhile job. The irony of that is, you dont need a passport to get here
but the bastards expect you to pay through the nose for some biometric shite
if you want to leave.

Still no date for my tribunal, my GP never seems happy writing out certs, I
must go back again in 2 weeks time as I have only been signed off for
another 4 weeks. Why the hell dont they sign people off for 6 months, whats
going on there? Why are doctors prepared to waste time like that, I think
she could sign me off permanently if she wanted to, or have GP's been
nobbled by the government.

Anyway she knows I am appealing against a decision for ESA, yet seems quite
happy to **** about writing out certs for 4 weeks, sometimes 8 weeks until
my appeal date comes round. I cant help but think there is something not
right with this situation.

 
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      01-11-2010, 07:49 AM
On 11 Jan, 03:52, "Niteawk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>
> Unforunately I am well short of the 60 mark, at least it shows I have worked
> most of my life, its only since the *country has been fcked up by our looney
> government allowing every one in, that I have not been able to get a
> worthwhile job. The irony of that is, you dont need a passport to get here
> but the bastards expect you to pay through the nose for some biometric shite
> if you want to leave.
>
> Still no date for my tribunal, my GP never seems happy writing out certs,I
> must go back again in 2 weeks time as I have only been signed off for
> another 4 weeks. Why the hell dont they sign people off for 6 months, whats
> going on there? Why are doctors prepared to waste time like that, I think
> she could sign me off permanently if she wanted to, or have GP's been
> nobbled by the government.
>
> Anyway she knows I am appealing against a decision for ESA, yet seems quite
> happy to **** about writing out certs for 4 weeks, sometimes 8 weeks until
> my appeal date comes round. I cant help but think there is something not
> right with this situation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Why would she want to sign you off permanently?

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