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Cosmic Horizon
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      06-05-2004, 02:50 AM
Hi,

I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking that I
was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight (Friday).
Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days money?
Or will it be 4 days??

Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to ring up
to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days money
(if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I might
prevent this I will be extremely grateful.

Thanks.


 
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      06-05-2004, 08:33 AM


Cosmic Horizon wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking that I
> was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight (Friday).
> Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days money?
> Or will it be 4 days??
>
> Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
> money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to ring up
> to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days money
> (if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I might
> prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
>
> Thanks.
>


No one will believe you were too ill to contact the jobcentre for two
days without medical evidence.

Prevention IS the best solution, remember to sign on! Get a diary,
callendar or even an organiser for the PC (plenty of basic ones
available as freeware) to remind you. Even easier, write on a piece of
paper your next signing date and stick it to the fridge/front
door/playstation.


Mike

 
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Cosmic Horizon
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      06-05-2004, 12:16 PM

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> Cosmic Horizon wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking

that I
> > was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight (Friday).
> > Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days

money?
> > Or will it be 4 days??
> >
> > Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
> > money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to ring

up
> > to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days

money
> > (if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I might
> > prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >

>
> No one will believe you were too ill to contact the jobcentre for two
> days without medical evidence.
>
> Prevention IS the best solution, remember to sign on! Get a diary,
> callendar or even an organiser for the PC (plenty of basic ones
> available as freeware) to remind you. Even easier, write on a piece of
> paper your next signing date and stick it to the fridge/front
> door/playstation.
>
>
> Mike
>

It doesn't matter whether they believe me, it's whether it's an acceptable
excuse ;-). If I'm too ill to get out of bed then I wouldn't be able to
contact them, especially if my phone has been cut off through not paying the
bill.

I didn't actually forget as such, I just thought my signing on date was the
following week rather than this week. But last night when I got money out
of the cash machine I realised I should have signed on this week LOL It's
this new deal business which is confusing me. You see I don't just go there
one week and not the next. It's much more haphazard than that :-(


 
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      06-05-2004, 02:40 PM


>>Cosmic Horizon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking

>
> that I
>
>>>was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight (Friday).
>>>Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days

>
> money?
>
>>>Or will it be 4 days??
>>>
>>>Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
>>>money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to ring

>
> up
>
>>>to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days

>
> money
>
>>>(if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I might
>>>prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>

>>
>>No one will believe you were too ill to contact the jobcentre for two
>>days without medical evidence.
>>
>>Prevention IS the best solution, remember to sign on! Get a diary,
>>callendar or even an organiser for the PC (plenty of basic ones
>>available as freeware) to remind you. Even easier, write on a piece of
>>paper your next signing date and stick it to the fridge/front
>>door/playstation.
>>
>>
>>Mike
>>

>
> It doesn't matter whether they believe me, it's whether it's an acceptable
> excuse ;-). If I'm too ill to get out of bed then I wouldn't be able to
> contact them, especially if my phone has been cut off through not paying the
> bill.


Believing that you were to ill does matter, if the Decision Maker
doesn't believe you then your lie (lets not dress it up) won't be
accepted. A lot of people who sign on forget to sign, every excuse
under the sun has been tried and the JCP be asking questions and for
evidence. The DM will decide if your late signing is accepted on
balance of probabilities and not absolute proof one way or the other,
repeating the mistake dramatically reduces your chances of being believed.

Out of curiosity has your phone been disconnected?

> I didn't actually forget as such, I just thought my signing on date was the
> following week rather than this week.


That sounds like you forgot to me! Write your next signing date down
and stick it on your fridge or set a reminder on your mobile.

Mike

 
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Cosmic Horizon
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      06-05-2004, 02:46 PM

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> >>Cosmic Horizon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking

> >
> > that I
> >
> >>>was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight

(Friday).
> >>>Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days

> >
> > money?
> >
> >>>Or will it be 4 days??
> >>>
> >>>Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
> >>>money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to ring

> >
> > up
> >
> >>>to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days

> >
> > money
> >
> >>>(if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I

might
> >>>prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks.
> >>>
> >>
> >>No one will believe you were too ill to contact the jobcentre for two
> >>days without medical evidence.
> >>
> >>Prevention IS the best solution, remember to sign on! Get a diary,
> >>callendar or even an organiser for the PC (plenty of basic ones
> >>available as freeware) to remind you. Even easier, write on a piece of
> >>paper your next signing date and stick it to the fridge/front
> >>door/playstation.
> >>
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>

> >
> > It doesn't matter whether they believe me, it's whether it's an

acceptable
> > excuse ;-). If I'm too ill to get out of bed then I wouldn't be able to
> > contact them, especially if my phone has been cut off through not paying

the
> > bill.

>
> Believing that you were to ill does matter, if the Decision Maker
> doesn't believe you then your lie (lets not dress it up) won't be
> accepted. A lot of people who sign on forget to sign, every excuse
> under the sun has been tried and the JCP be asking questions and for
> evidence. The DM will decide if your late signing is accepted on
> balance of probabilities and not absolute proof one way or the other,
> repeating the mistake dramatically reduces your chances of being believed.
>
> Out of curiosity has your phone been disconnected?
>
> > I didn't actually forget as such, I just thought my signing on date was

the
> > following week rather than this week.

>
> That sounds like you forgot to me! Write your next signing date down
> and stick it on your fridge or set a reminder on your mobile.
>
> Mike
>


OK, I didn't think I'd be able to do anything about it. If they calculate
on the balance of probabilitities I have zero chance. But I thought I'd just
ask in here.

Right, so I might as well just say I got the signing weeks mixed up? I'll
only lose 2 days money won't I? Not 4 cos I can't go in today or tomorrow.

No my phone has not been disconnected. But it was recently when I owed
1.85!


 
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Tomato
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      06-05-2004, 10:40 PM
Tell them you have "amnesia" its a recognised medical condition which means
you suffer from memory loss, how much memory loss is not known but it was
enough for you to forget to sign on, any doctor will verify this for you.
You can get a self certificate form from the DSS to cover your period of
illness less than 7 days, if the illness lasts more than 7 days then you
need a doctors cert to cover you.


"Cosmic Horizon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:iPlwc.96$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > >>Cosmic Horizon wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>>I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking
> > >
> > > that I
> > >
> > >>>was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight

> (Friday).
> > >>>Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will lose 2 days
> > >
> > > money?
> > >
> > >>>Or will it be 4 days??
> > >>>
> > >>>Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing

any
> > >>>money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to

ring
> > >
> > > up
> > >
> > >>>to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing 2 days
> > >
> > > money
> > >
> > >>>(if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice as to how I

> might
> > >>>prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>No one will believe you were too ill to contact the jobcentre for two
> > >>days without medical evidence.
> > >>
> > >>Prevention IS the best solution, remember to sign on! Get a diary,
> > >>callendar or even an organiser for the PC (plenty of basic ones
> > >>available as freeware) to remind you. Even easier, write on a piece

of
> > >>paper your next signing date and stick it to the fridge/front
> > >>door/playstation.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter whether they believe me, it's whether it's an

> acceptable
> > > excuse ;-). If I'm too ill to get out of bed then I wouldn't be able

to
> > > contact them, especially if my phone has been cut off through not

paying
> the
> > > bill.

> >
> > Believing that you were to ill does matter, if the Decision Maker
> > doesn't believe you then your lie (lets not dress it up) won't be
> > accepted. A lot of people who sign on forget to sign, every excuse
> > under the sun has been tried and the JCP be asking questions and for
> > evidence. The DM will decide if your late signing is accepted on
> > balance of probabilities and not absolute proof one way or the other,
> > repeating the mistake dramatically reduces your chances of being

believed.
> >
> > Out of curiosity has your phone been disconnected?
> >
> > > I didn't actually forget as such, I just thought my signing on date

was
> the
> > > following week rather than this week.

> >
> > That sounds like you forgot to me! Write your next signing date down
> > and stick it on your fridge or set a reminder on your mobile.
> >
> > Mike
> >

>
> OK, I didn't think I'd be able to do anything about it. If they calculate
> on the balance of probabilitities I have zero chance. But I thought I'd

just
> ask in here.
>
> Right, so I might as well just say I got the signing weeks mixed up? I'll
> only lose 2 days money won't I? Not 4 cos I can't go in today or

tomorrow.
>
> No my phone has not been disconnected. But it was recently when I owed
> 1.85!
>
>



 
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      06-06-2004, 12:45 AM
"Tomato" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Tell them you have "amnesia" its a recognised medical condition which

means
> you suffer from memory loss, how much memory loss is not known but it was
> enough for you to forget to sign on, any doctor will verify this for you.
> You can get a self certificate form from the DSS to cover your period of
> illness less than 7 days, if the illness lasts more than 7 days then you
> need a doctors cert to cover you.
>


Yep - good idea this. It will create a doubt about your job readiness and
your advisor will give you (even more) hassle for the rest of the time your
on new deal, especially if you ever have a genuine illness in the next
year - you'll suddenly find yourself in the position where you're too sick
to claim JSA but not sick enough to claim Incapacity benefit.

Don
--
The Vulcan neck pinch isn't nearly as powerful as the Vulcan groin kick,
but it is more politically correct!!


 
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      06-06-2004, 03:14 AM
In Usenet post: 4qbwc.1241$(E-Mail Removed),
Cosmic Horizon went on and on and on:
> Hi,
>
> I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking
> that I was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight
> (Friday). Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will
> lose 2 days money? Or will it be 4 days??
>
> Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
> money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to
> ring up to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing
> 2 days money (if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice
> as to how I might prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
>

No, you wont lose any money if they accept your signing late - you have up
to one week before your claim is cancelled.
Just tell them were ill and this contributed to your forgetting, and say you
don't mind if they record the fact in case you do it again in future. Say
that you will mark all your future signing dates on a calandar and new deal
stuff wont confuse you in future.


 
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      06-06-2004, 06:45 AM


Tomato wrote:
> Tell them you have "amnesia" its a recognised medical condition which means
> you suffer from memory loss, how much memory loss is not known but it was
> enough for you to forget to sign on, any doctor will verify this for you.
> You can get a self certificate form from the DSS to cover your period of
> illness less than 7 days, if the illness lasts more than 7 days then you
> need a doctors cert to cover you.
>
>


I'm sure this has never been thought of before.

Damn, sarcasm mode has stopped working.

Mike

 
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      06-06-2004, 06:47 AM


anthonyberet wrote:

> In Usenet post: 4qbwc.1241$(E-Mail Removed),
> Cosmic Horizon went on and on and on:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I neglected to sign on Thursday which is my signing on day, thinking
>>that I was supposed to sign on next week. Only just realised tonight
>>(Friday). Obviously I 'll go in Monday. Basically I assume I will
>>lose 2 days money? Or will it be 4 days??
>>
>>Is there anything I can do whatsoever which will prevent me losing any
>>money? What about saying I was too ill to even go to the phone to
>>ring up to inform of my illness?? I'm pretty well resigned to losing
>>2 days money (if not 4 days!), but if anyone can give me any advice
>>as to how I might prevent this I will be extremely grateful.
>>

>
> No, you wont lose any money if they accept your signing late - you have up
> to one week before your claim is cancelled.
> Just tell them were ill and this contributed to your forgetting, and say you
> don't mind if they record the fact in case you do it again in future. Say
> that you will mark all your future signing dates on a calandar and new deal
> stuff wont confuse you in future.
>


Telling the truth, a novel approach.

Mike

 
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