No password on the Vault?

I am using Quicken 2010. I would like to NOT have a password on the
password vault itself. Quicken seems to require it. Is there an
undocumented workaround?

drwtsn32 <> wrote in news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
:

> I am using Quicken 2010. I would like to NOT have a password on the
> password vault itself. Quicken seems to require it. Is there an
> undocumented workaround?

What's so bad about a password? You could use "boo" if nothing else
strikes your fancy. Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.

--
Best regards
Han
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On 05 Mar 2010 01:44:59 GMT, Han <> wrote:

>drwtsn32 <> wrote in news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
>:
>
>> I am using Quicken 2010. I would like to NOT have a password on the
>> password vault itself. Quicken seems to require it. Is there an
>> undocumented workaround?
>
>What's so bad about a password? You could use "boo" if nothing else
>strikes your fancy. Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
>absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.


Might I "re-ask" this question where I received no response five weks
or so ago:

I recently upgraded from Q Deluxe 1999 to Q2010 Home and Business
(Canada)... yeah, yeah, I know!

The conversion was painless and perfectly executed. The 2010 "one
big data file" threw me for a while.

However, today I made an error while setting up a new "savings"
account, and in the process of trying to <delete> the boo-boo, Q2010
required permission by asking for a "transaction password".

I've never set one up... the only password I had with Q99 was the
initial request when loading data, and that migrated successfully to
2010.

I managed to work around the error, but I'm now faced with no way to
change any transaction if need be because I don't know this password,
and I cannot set up a new one as Q2010 demands I provide the "old" one
first!

I never had such a beast.

And no, it's not the same as my data password.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

I'm still faced with this "non-existent" password.

On Mar 4, 9:43*pm, Nobody <j...@soccer.com> wrote:
> On 05 Mar 2010 01:44:59 GMT, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
>
> >drwtsn32 <drwts...@gmail.com> wrote in news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
> >9d46ee2be...@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> I am using Quicken 2010. *I would like to NOT have a password on the
> >> password vault itself. *Quicken seems to require it. *Is there an
> >> undocumented workaround?
>
> >What's so bad about a password? *You could use "boo" if nothing else
> >strikes your fancy. *Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
> >absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.
>
> Might I "re-ask" this question where I received no response five weks
> or so ago:
>
> I recently upgraded from Q Deluxe 1999 to Q2010 Home and Business
> (Canada)... yeah, yeah, I know!
>
> The conversion was painless and perfectly executed. * The 2010 "one
> big data file" threw me for a while.
>
> However, today I made an error while setting up a new "savings"
> account, and in the process of trying to <delete> the boo-boo, Q2010
> required permission by asking for a "transaction password".
>
> I've never set one up... the only password I had with Q99 was the
> initial request when loading data, and that migrated successfully to
> 2010.
>
> I managed to work around the error, but I'm now faced with no way to
> change any transaction if need be because I don't know this password,
> and I cannot set up a new one as Q2010 demands I provide the "old" one
> first! *
>
> I never had such a beast.
>
> And no, it's not the same as my data password.
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> I'm still faced with this "non-existent" password.

Check this link for an answer.

http://financialsoft.about.com/od/da...ranspasswd.htm

Also if you open Quicken and go to Help you will find more info about
this such as

Transaction passwords protect all transactions before a certain date.
After you set up a transaction password, Quicken will prompt you for
the password before you can record changes to any of the transactions
dated on or before the date you specified. (You might use a
transaction password when you close an accounting period so that no
one accidentally changes transactions within that period.)

Choose File menu > Open Quicken File to open the data file that
contains the transactions you want to protect with a password.
What does a transaction password protect?
A transaction password protects only the transactions in a file before
a specified date.

Choose File menu > Set Password to modify transactions.
In the Password field, type the password.
What are the password requirements?
You can type up to 15 characters, including spaces. Quicken is case
sensitive. This means that if you specify aBc987, you must type aBc987
and not abc987 or ABC987.

In the Confirm Password field, reenter the same password.
In the Required For Dates Through field, enter the date of the last
transaction you want the password to apply to.
Click OK.
What happens next?
From now on, Quicken prompts you for the password before you can
record changes to any of the transactions dated on or before the date
you specified. You can use this as a reminder not to change
transactions for a specific accounting period by setting the date for
the close of the accounting period.

If you cannot remember your password, Intuit offers a password removal
service.

> > I am using Quicken 2010. *I would like to NOT have a password on the
> > password vault itself. *Quicken seems to require it. *Is there an
> > undocumented workaround?
>
> What's so bad about a password? *You could use "boo" if nothing else
> strikes your fancy. *Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
> absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.

Thanks for the lecture, but that's not what I asked... so I take it
there is NO way to not have a password. Lame. It should be our
choice.

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:03:46 -0800 (PST), jslcr1 <>
wrote:

>On Mar 4, 9:43*pm, Nobody <j...@soccer.com> wrote:
>> On 05 Mar 2010 01:44:59 GMT, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
>>
>> >drwtsn32 <drwts...@gmail.com> wrote in news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
>> >9d46ee2be...@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> I am using Quicken 2010. *I would like to NOT have a password on the
>> >> password vault itself. *Quicken seems to require it. *Is there an
>> >> undocumented workaround?
>>
>> >What's so bad about a password? *You could use "boo" if nothing else
>> >strikes your fancy. *Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
>> >absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.
>>
>> Might I "re-ask" this question where I received no response five weks
>> or so ago:
>>
>> I recently upgraded from Q Deluxe 1999 to Q2010 Home and Business
>> (Canada)... yeah, yeah, I know!
>>
>> The conversion was painless and perfectly executed. * The 2010 "one
>> big data file" threw me for a while.
>>
>> However, today I made an error while setting up a new "savings"
>> account, and in the process of trying to <delete> the boo-boo, Q2010
>> required permission by asking for a "transaction password".
>>
>> I've never set one up... the only password I had with Q99 was the
>> initial request when loading data, and that migrated successfully to
>> 2010.
>>
>> I managed to work around the error, but I'm now faced with no way to
>> change any transaction if need be because I don't know this password,
>> and I cannot set up a new one as Q2010 demands I provide the "old" one
>> first! *
>>
>> I never had such a beast.
>>
>> And no, it's not the same as my data password.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> I'm still faced with this "non-existent" password.
>
>Check this link for an answer.
>
>http://financialsoft.about.com/od/da...ranspasswd.htm
>
>Also if you open Quicken and go to Help you will find more info about
>this such as
>
>Transaction passwords protect all transactions before a certain date.
>After you set up a transaction password, Quicken will prompt you for
>the password before you can record changes to any of the transactions
>dated on or before the date you specified. (You might use a
>transaction password when you close an accounting period so that no
>one accidentally changes transactions within that period.)
>
>Choose File menu > Open Quicken File to open the data file that
>contains the transactions you want to protect with a password.
> What does a transaction password protect?
>A transaction password protects only the transactions in a file before
>a specified date.
>
>Choose File menu > Set Password to modify transactions.
>In the Password field, type the password.
> What are the password requirements?
>You can type up to 15 characters, including spaces. Quicken is case
>sensitive. This means that if you specify aBc987, you must type aBc987
>and not abc987 or ABC987.
>
>In the Confirm Password field, reenter the same password.
>In the Required For Dates Through field, enter the date of the last
>transaction you want the password to apply to.
>Click OK.
> What happens next?
>From now on, Quicken prompts you for the password before you can
>record changes to any of the transactions dated on or before the date
>you specified. You can use this as a reminder not to change
>transactions for a specific accounting period by setting the date for
>the close of the accounting period.
>
>If you cannot remember your password, Intuit offers a password removal
>service.

I know all that.

You didn't read my message closely enough: Q2010 has taken upon itself
to set a transaction password unbeknownst to me

I did not ask for it. I can't change a password I never set, nor
know! To change a password, you have to enter the "old" one.

The only password that Q99 Deluxe required was my main log-in which
also kicked in if I tried to change an "old" transaction.

That main password was pciked up by Q2010 normally, and is in use.

But I'm hooped if I ever want to change a transaction...

Yeah, Intuit provides a a removal service... at a cost and only by
sending a data file physically to them.

I think not!

Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:03:46 -0800 (PST), jslcr1 <>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 4, 9:43 pm, Nobody <j...@soccer.com> wrote:
>>> On 05 Mar 2010 01:44:59 GMT, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
>>>
>>>> drwtsn32 <drwts...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
>>>> 9d46ee2be...@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>>> I am using Quicken 2010. I would like to NOT have a password on
>>>>> the password vault itself. Quicken seems to require it. Is there
>>>>> an undocumented workaround?
>>>
>>>> What's so bad about a password? You could use "boo" if nothing else
>>>> strikes your fancy. Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
>>>> absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.
>>>
>>> Might I "re-ask" this question where I received no response five
>>> weks or so ago:
>>>
>>> I recently upgraded from Q Deluxe 1999 to Q2010 Home and Business
>>> (Canada)... yeah, yeah, I know!
>>>
>>> The conversion was painless and perfectly executed. The 2010 "one
>>> big data file" threw me for a while.
>>>
>>> However, today I made an error while setting up a new "savings"
>>> account, and in the process of trying to <delete> the boo-boo, Q2010
>>> required permission by asking for a "transaction password".
>>>
>>> I've never set one up... the only password I had with Q99 was the
>>> initial request when loading data, and that migrated successfully to
>>> 2010.
>>>
>>> I managed to work around the error, but I'm now faced with no way to
>>> change any transaction if need be because I don't know this
>>> password, and I cannot set up a new one as Q2010 demands I provide
>>> the "old" one first!
>>>
>>> I never had such a beast.
>>>
>>> And no, it's not the same as my data password.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I'm still faced with this "non-existent" password.
>>
>> Check this link for an answer.
>>
>> http://financialsoft.about.com/od/da...ranspasswd.htm
>>
>> Also if you open Quicken and go to Help you will find more info about
>> this such as
>>
>> Transaction passwords protect all transactions before a certain date.
>> After you set up a transaction password, Quicken will prompt you for
>> the password before you can record changes to any of the transactions
>> dated on or before the date you specified. (You might use a
>> transaction password when you close an accounting period so that no
>> one accidentally changes transactions within that period.)
>>
>> Choose File menu > Open Quicken File to open the data file that
>> contains the transactions you want to protect with a password.
>> What does a transaction password protect?
>> A transaction password protects only the transactions in a file
>> before a specified date.
>>
>> Choose File menu > Set Password to modify transactions.
>> In the Password field, type the password.
>> What are the password requirements?
>> You can type up to 15 characters, including spaces. Quicken is case
>> sensitive. This means that if you specify aBc987, you must type
>> aBc987 and not abc987 or ABC987.
>>
>> In the Confirm Password field, reenter the same password.
>> In the Required For Dates Through field, enter the date of the last
>> transaction you want the password to apply to.
>> Click OK.
>> What happens next?
>> From now on, Quicken prompts you for the password before you can
>> record changes to any of the transactions dated on or before the date
>> you specified. You can use this as a reminder not to change
>> transactions for a specific accounting period by setting the date for
>> the close of the accounting period.
>>
>> If you cannot remember your password, Intuit offers a password
>> removal service.
>
> I know all that.
>
> You didn't read my message closely enough: Q2010 has taken upon itself
> to set a transaction password unbeknownst to me
>
> I did not ask for it. I can't change a password I never set, nor
> know! To change a password, you have to enter the "old" one.
>
> The only password that Q99 Deluxe required was my main log-in which
> also kicked in if I tried to change an "old" transaction.
>
> That main password was pciked up by Q2010 normally, and is in use.
>
> But I'm hooped if I ever want to change a transaction...
>
> Yeah, Intuit provides a a removal service... at a cost and only by
> sending a data file physically to them.
>
> I think not!

Well I read your post. Apparently you do not "know all that".

Intuit DID NOT "take it upon itself to set a transaction password"; what
you have is data corruption.

Intuit does not charge for removing a password ... clearly you did not
bother to check this before you posted.

--

John Pollard
news://<YOUR-NNTP-NEWSERVER-HERE>/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken
Your source of user-to-user Quicken help

"drwtsn32" <> wrote in message
news:631e5eaf-7947-49c1-a4b0-...
> so I take itthere is NO way to not have a password.
> t should be our choice.

FWIW, I agree with you. I too would like the choice too. I store my
Quicken file on an encrypted volume so the required vault password offers no
additional security to me, just an extra annoyance.

Bruce.

> FWIW, I agree with you. *I too would like the choice too. *I store my
> Quicken file on an encrypted volume so the required vault password offersno
> additional security to me, just an extra annoyance.

EXACTLY. Some of use TrueCrypt or other forms of protection. I am
trying to transition from Microsoft Money... it did not force you to
set a master password in order to remember passwords for downloading
bank transactions. Wish Quicken would give us the same option.

Thanks,
Rod

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:56:19 -0600, "John Pollard"
<> wrote:

>Nobody wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 03:03:46 -0800 (PST), jslcr1 <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 9:43 pm, Nobody <j...@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>> On 05 Mar 2010 01:44:59 GMT, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> drwtsn32 <drwts...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:e0592e4f-b315-403e-88f2-
>>>>> 9d46ee2be...@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Quicken 2010. I would like to NOT have a password on
>>>>>> the password vault itself. Quicken seems to require it. Is there
>>>>>> an undocumented workaround?
>>>>
>>>>> What's so bad about a password? You could use "boo" if nothing else
>>>>> strikes your fancy. Secure is better than insecure, even if you are
>>>>> absolutely sure your machine will never get stolen.
>>>>
>>>> Might I "re-ask" this question where I received no response five
>>>> weks or so ago:

<severely snipped>

>>>
>>> If you cannot remember your password, Intuit offers a password
>>> removal service.
>>
>> I know all that.
>>
>> You didn't read my message closely enough: Q2010 has taken upon itself
>> to set a transaction password unbeknownst to me
>>
>> I did not ask for it. I can't change a password I never set, nor
>> know! To change a password, you have to enter the "old" one.
>>
>> The only password that Q99 Deluxe required was my main log-in which
>> also kicked in if I tried to change an "old" transaction.
>>
>> That main password was pciked up by Q2010 normally, and is in use.
>>
>> But I'm hooped if I ever want to change a transaction...
>>
>> Yeah, Intuit provides a a removal service... at a cost and only by
>> sending a data file physically to them.
>>
>> I think not!
>
>Well I read your post. Apparently you do not "know all that".
>
>Intuit DID NOT "take it upon itself to set a transaction password"; what
>you have is data corruption.
>
>Intuit does not charge for removing a password ... clearly you did not
>bother to check this before you posted.

<sigh>

First, Intuit/Quicken do intimate that a fee is possible for password
retrieval:

http://support.intuit.ca/quicken/en-...gement/27.html

It's even highlighted in the last paragraph.

Now, let me re-phrase my problem:

I set up a new account in Q2010 -- in doing so, I make a mistake --
when I try to correct the mistake, Q requests that I enter a
transaction password.

This is the first time I've experienced this while using Q2010 -- the
only password that was in use with Q99 Deluxe was the "master"
password which migrated successfully.

While using Q99, if I changed or corrected an entry, the "master"
password permitted the change.

When in Q2010, I go to either set or change the "transaction"
password, the pop-up box requires that the old password be entered
before a new one can be applied.

The only "old" password is the master -- and the change password
protocol won't recognise it.

If you wish to label that as a somehow corrupted file, so be it. To
my mind, there is a password entered over which I have no knowledge or
control.

Thank you.