Quickbooks Lifespan

On 2/5/2010 7:15 PM, Mikel Sunova wrote:
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> "Elaine" <> wrote in message
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>> I think they're only talking about Quicken ONLINE being discontinued.
>> Elaine
>>
>>
>
> Yes, but further down, they say they also have plans to combine code
> with mint.com in 2 years and discontinue desktop Quicken in about 5
> years, as per this quote from the article:
>
> "In the on-air discussion, Patzer said Intuit plans to keep selling
> desktop versions of Quicken for Windows PCs and Apple (AAPL) Macs for
> perhaps five years further. That's mainly to appeal to "older" users who
> "feel more comfortable" with their finances on a personal computer, he
> said. Within about two years, the company plans to combine the software
> code of Mint.com and Quicken into a product that would let users readily
> switch between desktop and online modes."
>
> If one can keep one's file on the desktop machine only, I have no
> issues, but...
>
> Mikel

Me too. They know that younger folk are quite clueless about privacy
(knowledge is power) and are willing to give their information to
anyone. At some point more of those people will be making the decisions
and those "stupid" "older" users will be trumped by them.

Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time. Users
get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given your
information to someone else to store on their systems.

On 2/7/2010 11:24 AM, Haskel LaPort wrote:
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> "dpb" <> wrote in message
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>> Haskel LaPort wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> Haskel is more concerned with what country the cloud is maintained in
>>> then security issues.
>>
>>
>> If Haskel isn't concerned w/ security issues then what difference can
>> it possibly make?
>
>
>
> Haskel is not concerned with security issues because I believe the data
> is and will be quite secure. Jobs are my major concern.
>
>
>>
>> --
>
One of the basic golden rules about securing your data is that you
maintain physical control over it. You have absolutely no way of knowing
how secure your data might be once you give up control to someone else.

On 2/7/2010 11:51 AM, Mikel Sunova wrote:
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> "Haskel LaPort" <> wrote in message
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>> "Mikel Sunova" <> wrote in message
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>>> "Haskel LaPort" <> wrote in message
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>>>> "Mikel Sunova" <> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Elaine" <> wrote in message
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>>>>>> I think they're only talking about Quicken ONLINE being discontinued.
>>>>>> Elaine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but further down, they say they also have plans to combine
>>>>> code with mint.com in 2 years and discontinue desktop Quicken in
>>>>> about 5 years, as per this quote from the article:
>>>>>
>>>>> "In the on-air discussion, Patzer said Intuit plans to keep selling
>>>>> desktop versions of Quicken for Windows PCs and Apple (AAPL) Macs
>>>>> for perhaps five years further. That's mainly to appeal to "older"
>>>>> users who "feel more comfortable" with their finances on a personal
>>>>> computer, he said. Within about two years, the company plans to
>>>>> combine the software code of Mint.com and Quicken into a product
>>>>> that would let users readily switch between desktop and online modes."
>>>>>
>>>>> If one can keep one's file on the desktop machine only, I have no
>>>>> issues, but...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikel
>>>>
>>>> In the not to distant future desktop software will be the rarity,
>>>> applications as well as the data will all be up in the clouds. . The
>>>> amount of computer literacy the genral public will need will contine
>>>> to decline.
>>>>
>>>> For the last 20 years Haskel has been a keen observer of the volume
>>>> of computer related books displayed by the major book retailers.
>>>> With each passing year the space allocated to these types of books
>>>> has decreased. Where in the past entire sections of the store were
>>>> dedicated to IT, today only a few shelves hold this subject matter.
>>>
>>>
>>> This also reflects society's decline...leaving more and more of our
>>> lives in the hands of a few. I suppose one can only drag one's feet
>>> for so long. Perhaps our only hope is that 'cloud security' keeps up
>>> with 'cloud assimilation'.
>>>
>>> Mikel
>>
>> Haskel is more concerned with what country the cloud is maintained in
>> then security issues.
>>
>
> I'm wondering about the third person thing, but that's another matter
> . As for what country, that concern will be resolved when the One
> World Order system rises, which, of course, will require the Cloud to
> operate. This may alleviate your concerns. It will inflame mine. . The
> Cloud will make it possible to exert complete control over the masses.
> Sounds paranoid, I know, but think of the potential. It may boggle
> Haskel's mind .
>
> Mikel

No paranoia required. One of the most basic ideas is that knowledge is
power.

"Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
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> George wrote:
>> Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
>> greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time. Users
>> get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
>> protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given your
>> information to someone else to store on their systems.
>
> One can hope that two or three of these clouds will be laid open before
> the
> trend progresses so far it can't be undone.



Lets hope your self fulfilling prophecies never come true.


Knowing that my data is stored safely by SmartVault and Carbonite up in the
clouds does give Haskel a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haskel does not have any
sleepless nights worring about security issues.





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"Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
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> Haskel LaPort wrote:
>>
>> "dpb" <> wrote in message
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>>> Haskel LaPort wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Haskel is more concerned with what country the cloud is maintained in
>>>> then security issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> If Haskel isn't concerned w/ security issues then what difference can
>>> it possibly make?
>>
>>
>>
>> Haskel is not concerned with security issues because I believe the data
>> is and will be quite secure. Jobs are my major concern.
>
> Alan Haskel is idiot. Data will be assimilated by the host country just
> because
> it might reveal someone that they want politically. There will be no
> security
> at all. It will be mined for trade secrets and state secrets.

Thanks for the compliment but I could never fill the man's shoes.

On 2/8/2010 9:06 AM, Haskel LaPort wrote:
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> "Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
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>> George wrote:
>>> Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
>>> greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time. Users
>>> get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
>>> protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given your
>>> information to someone else to store on their systems.
>>
>> One can hope that two or three of these clouds will be laid open
>> before the
>> trend progresses so far it can't be undone.
>
>
>
> Lets hope your self fulfilling prophecies never come true.
>
>
> Knowing that my data is stored safely by SmartVault and Carbonite up in
> the clouds does give Haskel a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haskel does not
> have any sleepless nights worring about security issues.
>
>
>
Honest question and something to think about.

You know your data is safely stored by carbonite or whomever how?
Because they told you?

"George" <> wrote in message
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> On 2/8/2010 9:06 AM, Haskel LaPort wrote:
>>
>> "Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
>> news:hko0ej$2jg$...
>>> George wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
>>>> greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time. Users
>>>> get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
>>>> protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given your
>>>> information to someone else to store on their systems.
>>>
>>> One can hope that two or three of these clouds will be laid open
>>> before the
>>> trend progresses so far it can't be undone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lets hope your self fulfilling prophecies never come true.
>>
>>
>> Knowing that my data is stored safely by SmartVault and Carbonite up in
>> the clouds does give Haskel a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haskel does not
>> have any sleepless nights worring about security issues.
>>
>>
>>
> Honest question and something to think about.
>
> You know your data is safely stored by carbonite or whomever how? Because
> they told you?
]

We live in a modern society. With out trust we may as well move in to a log
cabin in the woods and live alone. I have to trust that the mechanic
installed the new brakes on my car correctly. I have to trust that the
doctor knows what they are doing.

A simple act like going to the barber shop requires trust. I have to trust
that he/she does not go bizarre on my ass and slits my throat with a razor.

"Haskel LaPort" <> wrote in message
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> "George" <> wrote in message
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>> On 2/8/2010 9:06 AM, Haskel LaPort wrote:
>>>
>>> "Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
>>> news:hko0ej$2jg$...
>>>> George wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
>>>>> greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time. Users
>>>>> get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
>>>>> protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given
>>>>> your
>>>>> information to someone else to store on their systems.
>>>>
>>>> One can hope that two or three of these clouds will be laid open
>>>> before the
>>>> trend progresses so far it can't be undone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets hope your self fulfilling prophecies never come true.
>>>
>>>
>>> Knowing that my data is stored safely by SmartVault and Carbonite up in
>>> the clouds does give Haskel a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haskel does not
>>> have any sleepless nights worring about security issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Honest question and something to think about.
>>
>> You know your data is safely stored by carbonite or whomever how? Because
>> they told you?
> ]
>
> We live in a modern society. With out trust we may as well move in to a
> log cabin in the woods and live alone. I have to trust that the mechanic
> installed the new brakes on my car correctly. I have to trust that the
> doctor knows what they are doing.
>
> A simple act like going to the barber shop requires trust. I have to trust
> that he/she does not go bizarre on my ass and slits my throat with a
> razor.


I myself choose who to trust based on whatever information I can glean and,
of course, intuition. It's a short list.

Mikel

"Mikel Sunova" <> wrote in message
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> "Haskel LaPort" <> wrote in message
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>>
>> "George" <> wrote in message
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>>> On 2/8/2010 9:06 AM, Haskel LaPort wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Golden California Girls" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:hko0ej$2jg$...
>>>>> George wrote:
>>>>>> Unfortunately for users the term "cloud computing" has to be the
>>>>>> greatest term to come along for marketing droids in a long time.
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> get the warm and fuzzies that their data is in "the cloud" perhaps
>>>>>> protected by the angels instead of the reality that you have given
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> information to someone else to store on their systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> One can hope that two or three of these clouds will be laid open
>>>>> before the
>>>>> trend progresses so far it can't be undone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lets hope your self fulfilling prophecies never come true.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Knowing that my data is stored safely by SmartVault and Carbonite up in
>>>> the clouds does give Haskel a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haskel does not
>>>> have any sleepless nights worring about security issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Honest question and something to think about.
>>>
>>> You know your data is safely stored by carbonite or whomever how?
>>> Because they told you?
>> ]
>>
>> We live in a modern society. With out trust we may as well move in to a
>> log cabin in the woods and live alone. I have to trust that the mechanic
>> installed the new brakes on my car correctly. I have to trust that the
>> doctor knows what they are doing.
>>
>> A simple act like going to the barber shop requires trust. I have to
>> trust that he/she does not go bizarre on my ass and slits my throat with
>> a razor.
>
>
> I myself choose who to trust based on whatever information I can glean
> and, of course, intuition. It's a short list.

I'm sure if you think hard that list is quite large. How many companies
produce or prepare the food you and your family eat?



>
> Mikel