Shaw Trust boot camp.

S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, I
didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?

On 4 Feb, 16:08, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, *I
> didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?

Did jobcentre ask them to make you an appointment?

Martin <><

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On 4 Feb, 16:08, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, I
> didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?

Did jobcentre ask them to make you an appointment?

Martin <><

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I have not been to the JC for nearly a year. The only thing I can think of
is, the taliban **** I had for a ND adviser is still on my case. Thats how
vindictive those fckers are.

Niteawk wrote:

> S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, I
> didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?

No-one here can possibly know.

Have you thought of going down to th Shaw Trust - and asking them?

On 4 Feb, 18:14, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:71e40d90-9331-409a-a31b-...
> On 4 Feb, 16:08, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, I
> > didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?
>
> Did jobcentre ask them to make you an appointment?
>
> Martin *<><
>
> =====================
> I have not been to the JC for nearly a year. The only thing I can think of
> is, the taliban **** I had for a ND adviser is still on my case. Thats how
> vindictive those fckers are.

Or maybe they still know that you are on the benefit and haven't yet
been found to be unable to work.
Unwilling maybe, not unable.

Martin <><

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On 4 Feb, 18:14, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:71e40d90-9331-409a-a31b-...
> On 4 Feb, 16:08, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > S.T. keep writing to me telling me they have made me an appointment, I
> > didnt ask them for an appointment, WTF are they on about?
>
> Did jobcentre ask them to make you an appointment?
>
> Martin <><
>
> =====================
> I have not been to the JC for nearly a year. The only thing I can think of
> is, the taliban **** I had for a ND adviser is still on my case. Thats how
> vindictive those fckers are.

Or maybe they still know that you are on the benefit and haven't yet
been found to be unable to work.


Unwilling maybe, not unable.

Martin <><
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Oh right, that must be why my Dr keeps signing me off, you are a bigger
muppet than they are.

On 5 Feb, 09:56, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> =========================
> Oh right, that must be why my Dr keeps signing me off, you are a bigger
> muppet than they are.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Your Dr won't be the one deciding about being unable to work for the
purposes of benefits. All this Dr will do is give you a sick note.
And you haven't yet had your appeal - so all we know in the meantime
is that you have been found fit for work by the decision maker.

Tell us - has this Dr of yours referred you to a specialist or do they
also think you are just trying to avoid work?

Martin <><

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> On 5 Feb, 09:56, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <snipped>
>> =========================
>> Oh right, that must be why my Dr keeps signing me off, you are a bigger
>> muppet than they are.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Your Dr won't be the one deciding about being unable to work for the
> purposes of benefits. All this Dr will do is give you a sick note.
> And you haven't yet had your appeal - so all we know in the meantime
> is that you have been found fit for work by the decision maker.
>
> Tell us - has this Dr of yours referred you to a specialist or do they
> also think you are just trying to avoid work?
>
> Martin <><

I have seen 2 specalists for seperate issues and both confirm the diagnosis,
game set and match AFAIAC.

Now I have to go to tribunal, because some asshole who knows **** all about
medical conditions, gave a diagnosis which was formulated by ticking boxes
on a fking BS form, and without any type of examination other than answering
questions, somehow that is meant to correct the decisions of 2 experts and a
GP, IOW they must be liars or they have not got a clue what they are doing.
A piece of paper can do their jobs.

Anyway I have got a hearing date apparently, the TS wrote to my legal
adviser who tells me my hearing is in 2 weeks time, I am still waiting for
them to actually contact me, then I might know where to go.

****in wankers the lot of them.

On 5 Feb, 13:36, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3cb62572-736c-4bdd-b132-...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Feb, 09:56, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > <snipped>
> >> =========================
> >> Oh right, that must be why my Dr keeps signing me off, you are a bigger
> >> muppet than they are.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Your Dr won't be the one deciding about being unable to work for the
> > purposes of benefits. All this Dr will do is give you a sick note.
> > And you haven't yet had your appeal - so all we know in the meantime
> > is that you have been found fit for work by the decision maker.
>
> > Tell us - has this Dr of yours referred you to a specialist or do they
> > also think you are just trying to avoid work?
>
> > Martin *<><
>
> I have seen 2 specalists for seperate issues and both confirm the diagnosis,
> game set and match AFAIAC.
>
> Now I have to go to tribunal, because some asshole who knows **** all about
> medical conditions, gave a diagnosis which was formulated by ticking boxes
> on a fking BS form, and without any type of examination other than answering
> questions, somehow that is meant to correct the decisions of 2 experts and a
> GP, IOW they must be liars or they have not got a clue what they are doing.
> A piece of paper can do their jobs.
>
> Anyway I have got a hearing date apparently, the TS wrote to my legal
> adviser who tells me my hearing is in 2 weeks time, I am still waiting for
> them to actually contact me, then I might know where to go.
>
> ****in wankers the lot of them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah, ticking boxes. Commonly used for the past couple of decades.
How do you think you ever got benefit? Ticking boxes.

Glad to hear your hearing is coming up. Will wait for your complaints
if they don't give you exactly what you want.
Oh, and last I heard its not a lifetime decision.......

Martin <><

wrote:
> On 5 Feb, 13:36, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> <mart2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3cb62572-736c-4bdd-b132-...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5 Feb, 09:56, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> <snipped>
>>>> =========================
>>>> Oh right, that must be why my Dr keeps signing me off, you are a bigger
>>>> muppet than they are.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Your Dr won't be the one deciding about being unable to work for the
>>> purposes of benefits. All this Dr will do is give you a sick note.
>>> And you haven't yet had your appeal - so all we know in the meantime
>>> is that you have been found fit for work by the decision maker.
>>> Tell us - has this Dr of yours referred you to a specialist or do they
>>> also think you are just trying to avoid work?
>>> Martin <><
>> I have seen 2 specalists for seperate issues and both confirm the diagnosis,
>> game set and match AFAIAC.
>>
>> Now I have to go to tribunal, because some asshole who knows **** all about
>> medical conditions, gave a diagnosis which was formulated by ticking boxes
>> on a fking BS form, and without any type of examination other than answering
>> questions, somehow that is meant to correct the decisions of 2 experts and a
>> GP, IOW they must be liars or they have not got a clue what they are doing.
>> A piece of paper can do their jobs.
>>
>> Anyway I have got a hearing date apparently, the TS wrote to my legal
>> adviser who tells me my hearing is in 2 weeks time, I am still waiting for
>> them to actually contact me, then I might know where to go.
>>
>> ****in wankers the lot of them.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Ah, ticking boxes. Commonly used for the past couple of decades.
> How do you think you ever got benefit? Ticking boxes.

The problem is that with ESA there are a lot less boxes to tick,
especially for the mental health descriptors and also the threshold for
passing on mental health grounds alone has increased from 10 to 15.
Well, it always has been 15 but getting 10 points on mental health
grounds alone under Incapacity Benefit was treated as if the person had
got 15 points.

>
> Glad to hear your hearing is coming up. Will wait for your complaints
> if they don't give you exactly what you want.
> Oh, and last I heard its not a lifetime decision.......

It never really was under IB, the examining Doctor usually gave a date
when the person should either be referred again or would be expected to
be fit for work.

Even if Niteawk passes the tribunal - and I expect him to, I've said it
before, then he may have to undergo a fresh Work Capability Assessment
at some point relatively soon. And so the whole process will begin again...


> Martin <><