Got this letter today

Discussion in 'Tax' started by Chris Curtis, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Chris Curtis

    Chris Curtis Guest

    I sent this to another tax group but hope this one, being moderated, might
    give me a better advice.


    Today I got this letter from the IRS.
    It's letter: LTR 105C

    They say:
    "We couldn't allow your claim.
    This letter is your notice that we've disallowed your claim for credit for
    the period shown above. "

    But I have never claimed anything against them.
    Not a single thing.

    What should I do with this?

    Thanks for your help

    CC

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    Chris Curtis, Jun 30, 2009
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  2. Chris Curtis

    Bill Brown Guest

    On Jun 30, 9:01 am, "Chris Curtis" <> wrote:
    > I sent this to another tax group but hope this one, being moderated, might
    > give me a better advice.
    >
    > Today I got this letter from the IRS.
    > It's letter: LTR 105C
    >
    > They say:
    > "We couldn't allow your claim.
    > This letter is your notice that we've disallowed your claim for credit for
    > the period shown above. "
    >
    > But I have never claimed anything against them.
    > Not a single thing.
    >
    > What should I do with this?
    >


    There should be a phone number on the letter, perhaps with a range of
    times. Call the IRS and ask them.

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  3. Chris Curtis

    Mark Bole Guest

    Chris Curtis wrote:
    > I sent this to another tax group but hope this one, being moderated, might
    > give me a better advice.


    In your case, it's not the group you post to, but lack of information
    provided, that is hindering your search for an explanation.


    >
    > Today I got this letter from the IRS.
    > It's letter: LTR 105C
    >
    > They say:
    > "We couldn't allow your claim.
    > This letter is your notice that we've disallowed your claim for credit for
    > the period shown above. "


    For starters, why don't you tell us what period is "shown above"?


    >
    > But I have never claimed anything against them.
    > Not a single thing.


    Did you file a tax return? If so, then you "claimed" a whole bunch of
    things. You repeatedly insist you didn't claim anything, if you remain
    stuck on this point then you're wasting your time seeking any further
    explanation of what claim is being disallowed.

    If you sincerely want a good answer, you need to further describe what,
    if anything, was entered in the "credits" or "payments" section of your
    tax return, and what dollar amount or other information is included in
    the letter from the IRS. Your statement that "It really doesn't say
    much more" is not conducive to a useful reply. You are asking for help
    with something you don't understand, and yet presuming to make a
    decision about what is relevant and what is not.

    It could be as simple as claiming an economic stimulus rebate credit on
    your 2008 return when you already received the advance payment in 2008.

    -Mark Bole

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    Mark Bole, Jul 1, 2009
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  4. Chris Curtis

    dpb Guest

    Mark Bole wrote:
    ....

    > If you sincerely want a good answer, you need to further describe what,
    > if anything, was entered in the "credits" or "payments" section of your
    > tax return, and what dollar amount or other information is included in
    > the letter from the IRS. Your statement that "It really doesn't say
    > much more" is not conducive to a useful reply. You are asking for help
    > with something you don't understand, and yet presuming to make a
    > decision about what is relevant and what is not.

    ....

    Then again, OP could have received a letter similar to the one I did
    that had no amounts nor any explanation of what, specifically, was the
    issue, only an adjustment amount for additional tax supposedly owed that
    makes no sense from any figures on the return.

    A phone call elicited a confused respondent who couldn't ascertain from
    the electronic files available to him what initiated the letter nor the
    underlying computations that generated the amount.

    Upshot was, he did stick in an 8-week extension to the time to respond
    and suggested to write a letter asking for clarification. Still waiting...

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  5. Chris Curtis

    Mark Bole Guest

    dpb wrote:

    > Then again, OP could have received a letter similar to the one I did
    > that had no amounts nor any explanation of what, specifically, was the
    > issue, only an adjustment amount for additional tax supposedly owed that
    > makes no sense from any figures on the return.


    But the letter at least indicated what tax year it was for, right? Our
    OP steadfastly refuses to divulge *any* details of the letter.

    It turns out a simple search of the archives of this group gives a
    pretty good answer, as two different respondents both say the same thing
    (see quotes below).

    Maybe our OP is a victim of identity theft...or just clueless?

    "Whenever a statute-barred return
    showing a refund is filed, IRS routinely issues a 105C
    letter formally disallowing the overpayment from being
    refunded to the taxpayer or being applied to any other tax
    year, whether it's before or after the statute-barred year. "

    "As for the older years, tax years 2000 and prior, IRS will
    send her a Letter 105C for each year that formally denies
    the statute-barred refund. "

    -Mark Bole

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  6. Chris Curtis

    dpb Guest

    Mark Bole wrote:
    > dpb wrote:
    >
    >> Then again, OP could have received a letter similar to the one I did
    >> that had no amounts nor any explanation of what, specifically, was the
    >> issue, only an adjustment amount for additional tax supposedly owed
    >> that makes no sense from any figures on the return.

    >
    > But the letter at least indicated what tax year it was for, right? Our
    > OP steadfastly refuses to divulge *any* details of the letter.

    ....

    Yes, it did have that...

    My newswerver only has the original post, no followups from OP so
    couldn't really assess refusal/no data or just vanished.

    I thought (and still think) it most peculiar in my situation the letter
    was so worthless in explaining the perceived problem. I'm almost
    positive there was a data entry error and a crossing of communications
    in the mail underlying the problem but it's yet TBD.

    Situation had to do w/ electronic filing original return w/ a small
    overpayment requested to be credited to next year's estimated payments.
    Very shortly after the submittal I realized had inadvertently included
    4th quarter estimated from previous tax year and missed both the 4th
    quarter current year and one other quarterly payment so actually was
    owed sizable refund. Owing to that size and being less than week since
    filing, preparer agreed it was probably wise to amend the return. By
    the time that amended return was received had gotten a correction notice
    where IRS software had determined correct estimates and issued proper
    refund.

    I'm thinking then when the amended return got there, it then screwed the
    system up royally since the correction requested had already been made.
    The amended return was unable to be viewed by the phone response
    people which didn't help.

    Anyway, just a comment that I could have believed a letter that had
    nothing useful in determining to what it referred, specifically, was
    quite possible... :)

    Whether it was really so in OP's case is another question, agreed...

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    dpb, Jul 1, 2009
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  7. Chris Curtis

    Mark Bole Guest

    dpb wrote:

    > My newswerver only has the original post, no followups from OP so
    > couldn't really assess refusal/no data or just vanished.



    He also posted in misc.taxes, I was including that thread too.


    > I thought (and still think) it most peculiar in my situation the letter
    > was so worthless in explaining the perceived problem. I'm almost
    > positive there was a data entry error and a crossing of communications
    > in the mail underlying the problem but it's yet TBD.

    [...]
    > Anyway, just a comment that I could have believed a letter that had
    > nothing useful in determining to what it referred, specifically, was
    > quite possible... :)


    I understand. It is pretty weak that the IRS web site, while listing
    some types of letters and their meaning, does not have an index of all
    of them...it's not like they don't have the information available.

    What I was responding to was the OP's request for help with
    understanding a letter, coupled with his assertion that it couldn't
    possibly be related to anything he did and that he didn't need to
    divulge anything else about the letter in order to get help.

    -Mark Bole

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    Mark Bole, Jul 1, 2009
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  8. In article <h2gifs$9ab$-september.org>,
    Mark Bole <> wrote:
    >I understand. It is pretty weak that the IRS web site, while listing
    >some types of letters and their meaning, does not have an index of all
    >of them...it's not like they don't have the information available.


    I share this concern.


    Here are a few links that make you think, why oh, why isn't there
    a single link with all letters/notices?


    The first link is directly related to a taxpayer's problem
    involving a leter 105C.

    http://www.treas.gov/tigta/auditreports/2003reports/200310171fr.html

    These next three links are lists of popular letters, but why three,
    and why is letter 106c not part of them, and why isn't there one
    single list?


    http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96199,00.html

    http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=125104,00.html

    http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=125130,00.html


    *And why was the business list in the "individuals" branch of
    the iRS tree?


    And for good measure, search for 105C in these two links:

    http://www.treas.gov/tigta/auditreports/2003reports/200310171fr.html

    http://www.natptax.com/2009txfebnews.pdf
    --

    ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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    Arthur Kamlet, Jul 2, 2009
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