Money's database format

Discussion in 'Microsoft Money' started by Steve Hanson, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. Steve Hanson

    Steve Hanson Guest

    I decided to tool around with my old Money files in a binary editor
    (can't do much else with them). The first thing in the file's header
    was "MSISAM Database"--this is not news, the newsgroup FAQ states
    this.

    Well I noticed that in a similar position in an Access database I had
    lying around it says "Standard Jet DB", so I replaced "MSISAM
    Database" with that. I saved it and now Access didn't complain about
    unknown database type, but it did request a password--which just means
    they changed a tiny bit of stuff so that it wouldn't read straight
    into Access. I ran an Access recovery tool on it and, sure enough,
    could see most of my financial data in one of dozens of normalized
    tables. No wonder Money is so slow.
     
    Steve Hanson, Oct 8, 2004
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  2. Steve Hanson

    Guest

    LOL

    Hey, let's start over with the Money app!

    JB


    Steve Hanson wrote:
    > I decided to tool around with my old Money files in a binary editor
    > (can't do much else with them). The first thing in the file's header
    > was "MSISAM Database"--this is not news, the newsgroup FAQ states
    > this.
    >
    > Well I noticed that in a similar position in an Access database I had
    > lying around it says "Standard Jet DB", so I replaced "MSISAM
    > Database" with that. I saved it and now Access didn't complain about
    > unknown database type, but it did request a password--which just

    means
    > they changed a tiny bit of stuff so that it wouldn't read straight
    > into Access. I ran an Access recovery tool on it and, sure enough,
    > could see most of my financial data in one of dozens of normalized
    > tables. No wonder Money is so slow.
     
    , Oct 8, 2004
    #2
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  3. Steve Hanson

    Guest Guest

    I don't think that using a database format for the file
    would make it slower, I believe that they are slowly
    integrating the internet connectivity throughout the
    application. With the latest version, they now have
    replaced the Money Express with MSN Alerts. This really
    ranks.
    >-----Original Message-----
    >I decided to tool around with my old Money files in a

    binary editor
    >(can't do much else with them). The first thing in the

    file's header
    >was "MSISAM Database"--this is not news, the newsgroup

    FAQ states
    >this.
    >
    >Well I noticed that in a similar position in an Access

    database I had
    >lying around it says "Standard Jet DB", so I

    replaced "MSISAM
    >Database" with that. I saved it and now Access didn't

    complain about
    >unknown database type, but it did request a password--

    which just means
    >they changed a tiny bit of stuff so that it wouldn't

    read straight
    >into Access. I ran an Access recovery tool on it and,

    sure enough,
    >could see most of my financial data in one of dozens of

    normalized
    >tables. No wonder Money is so slow.
    >.
    >
     
    Guest, Oct 8, 2004
    #3
  4. Steve Hanson

    Steve Hanson Guest

    <> wrote in
    <03ed01c4acdd$360ae4d0$>:

    >I don't think that using a database format for the file
    >would make it slower, I believe that they are slowly
    >integrating the internet connectivity throughout the
    >application. With the latest version, they now have
    >replaced the Money Express with MSN Alerts. This really
    >ranks.


    Jet is not a high performance database engine. This is why Microsoft
    recommends people archive data--because Jet can't hack it. I agree
    that some of the slowness is the crap IE interface and the constant
    need to report to Microsoft's servers. However compare Quicken's
    speed, which is way way faster than Money at displaying information,
    doing searches, etc. That's where the database performance comes into
    play.
     
    Steve Hanson, Oct 8, 2004
    #4
  5. What was the year of the old Money file on which you tried this?

    Steve Hanson wrote:
    > I decided to tool around with my old Money files in a binary editor
    > (can't do much else with them). The first thing in the file's header
    > was "MSISAM Database"--this is not news, the newsgroup FAQ states
    > this.
    >
    > Well I noticed that in a similar position in an Access database I had
    > lying around it says "Standard Jet DB", so I replaced "MSISAM
    > Database" with that. I saved it and now Access didn't complain about
    > unknown database type, but it did request a password--which just means
    > they changed a tiny bit of stuff so that it wouldn't read straight
    > into Access. I ran an Access recovery tool on it and, sure enough,
    > could see most of my financial data in one of dozens of normalized
    > tables. No wonder Money is so slow.
     
    Retired Coal Miner, Oct 8, 2004
    #5
  6. Steve Hanson

    Steve Hanson Guest

    Retired Coal Miner wrote in <>:

    >What was the year of the old Money file on which you tried this?


    2002 and 2005. One table I noticed was called "Feature Expiration
    Custom Pool". It was empty but had a number of fields.

    I spent all of about 30 min. poking around, using some freeware tools.
    I'm sure someone with more time and interest, i.e. a Money user who
    knows a little about databases and programming, could find interesting
    ways to hack Money's data file. There are many possibilities. I
    personally just don't have the time or inclination since I'm no longer
    a Money user.
     
    Steve Hanson, Oct 8, 2004
    #6
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