New Deal 13 weeks Course from Hell

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  1. Fat Bloke

    Fat Bloke Guest

    This is the text of a letter I am thinking of forwarding to the
    Jobcentre, my local MP and the local paper. Am I doing right or am I
    going to get in trouble? Should I send it now or at the end my "jail
    time"? I am only on day two and I am already pissed off. Here's the
    letter, details are blanked out.

    ===========================================================



    Dear Sirs,

    I am writing to you to inform you of the insane condition at the xxx
    centre in XXXXXXXXXXXX.

    On day one I was left in an overcrowded room for more than 1 hour
    waiting for instructions on what to do. We were eventually welcomed
    by XXXXX XXXXXX, the most experienced tutor there. We were left
    unsupervised sometimes for hours, in rooms where there were not enough
    chairs to sit on, asked sometimes to swap rooms. The groups were
    sometimes rearranged for no apparent reasons.
    I was eventually put in a group with mostly young ex-offenders who
    were boasting how tough they were and all the nice things they learned
    in prison, definitely an environment I did't belong in and which gave
    me no motivation to improve on my condition. In between "waits" we
    were treated to "pub quizzes", under threat that we don't tell anybody.

    On day two the group mysteriously got even larger, we were told to use
    the computers and do some job search but the number of PCs were
    limited and the waiting list was not worth it. Those who wisely stayed
    in the room were shouted not to be lazy and do some job search, but
    how?

    XXXXXX looked at my CV and said that there are no jobs in the IT
    industry and that I look for work somewhere else and that was it! I
    wanted to ask him if there was a possibility to do some volunteering
    in a charity shop but he didn't want to go into that topic ad said
    that he had already decided for me and if I don't accept it then it
    means I'm not "receptive".

    Then I decided to walk to the Jobcentre, asked to speak to my New Deal
    advisor and ask her if can have a work placement at the charity shop.
    She said it was not possible, because "now you are with the XXX, not
    with us anymore". I asked her what that meant, is the Jobcentre not
    taking any ownership for people on New Deal? Well it looks so, in fact
    a security guards appeared and invited me out but I resisted. Had I
    done anything wrong? I was just pointing out that the situation at XXX
    BXXXXXXXXXX was beyond control.

    Clients receive Porridge-style "prison talks". We have been told that
    if we don't comply then we are troublemakers.

    I have been told by a "repeater" that if you dare to criticise XXX
    whilst still there, they will create a history of allegations to throw
    you off the course then convince the Job Centre to have your benefits
    stopped. It appears that bullying at XXX is frequent.

    Clients are discouraged from using the main entrance to the building
    and invited to enter and leave via a backdoor. Staff and clients stand
    by the backdoort smoking. Jobseekers are forced to walk through the
    smoke on entering and leaving the building. Nobody cares to ensure the
    Fire Register is signed each day.

    Tutors lack in any qualifications whatsoever. XXX placed an adverts on
    Gumtree asking for tutors:


    Tutors Urgently need for XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX


    Location: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Job Type: Permanent
    Date posted: 25 Feb, 2010
    From: gumtree.com


    Description:
    We currently need tutors for XXX in XXXXXXX, no experience in required
    as Full Training will be given. The job post will close on the 15th
    March. Applicants must forward a CV to XXX P.S - You cannot apply for
    this position over the phone a CV must be forwarded to the given E-
    mail. Thank you...

    =======================================================
     
    Fat Bloke, Apr 13, 2010
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  2. Fat Bloke

    Niteawk Guest

    "Fat Bloke" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > This is the text of a letter I am thinking of forwarding to the
    > Jobcentre, my local MP and the local paper. Am I doing right or am I
    > going to get in trouble? Should I send it now or at the end my "jail
    > time"? I am only on day two and I am already pissed off. Here's the
    > letter, details are blanked out.
    >
    > ===========================================================
    >
    >
    >
    > Dear Sirs,
    >
    > I am writing to you to inform you of the insane condition at the xxx
    > centre in XXXXXXXXXXXX.
    >
    > On day one I was left in an overcrowded room for more than 1 hour
    > waiting for instructions on what to do. We were eventually welcomed
    > by XXXXX XXXXXX, the most experienced tutor there. We were left
    > unsupervised sometimes for hours, in rooms where there were not enough
    > chairs to sit on, asked sometimes to swap rooms. The groups were
    > sometimes rearranged for no apparent reasons.
    > I was eventually put in a group with mostly young ex-offenders who
    > were boasting how tough they were and all the nice things they learned
    > in prison, definitely an environment I did't belong in and which gave
    > me no motivation to improve on my condition. In between "waits" we
    > were treated to "pub quizzes", under threat that we don't tell anybody.
    >
    > On day two the group mysteriously got even larger, we were told to use
    > the computers and do some job search but the number of PCs were
    > limited and the waiting list was not worth it. Those who wisely stayed
    > in the room were shouted not to be lazy and do some job search, but
    > how?
    >
    > XXXXXX looked at my CV and said that there are no jobs in the IT
    > industry and that I look for work somewhere else and that was it! I
    > wanted to ask him if there was a possibility to do some volunteering
    > in a charity shop but he didn't want to go into that topic ad said
    > that he had already decided for me and if I don't accept it then it
    > means I'm not "receptive".
    >
    > Then I decided to walk to the Jobcentre, asked to speak to my New Deal
    > advisor and ask her if can have a work placement at the charity shop.
    > She said it was not possible, because "now you are with the XXX, not
    > with us anymore". I asked her what that meant, is the Jobcentre not
    > taking any ownership for people on New Deal? Well it looks so, in fact
    > a security guards appeared and invited me out but I resisted. Had I
    > done anything wrong? I was just pointing out that the situation at XXX
    > BXXXXXXXXXX was beyond control.
    >
    > Clients receive Porridge-style "prison talks". We have been told that
    > if we don't comply then we are troublemakers.
    >
    > I have been told by a "repeater" that if you dare to criticise XXX
    > whilst still there, they will create a history of allegations to throw
    > you off the course then convince the Job Centre to have your benefits
    > stopped. It appears that bullying at XXX is frequent.
    >
    > Clients are discouraged from using the main entrance to the building
    > and invited to enter and leave via a backdoor. Staff and clients stand
    > by the backdoort smoking. Jobseekers are forced to walk through the
    > smoke on entering and leaving the building. Nobody cares to ensure the
    > Fire Register is signed each day.
    >
    > Tutors lack in any qualifications whatsoever. XXX placed an adverts on
    > Gumtree asking for tutors:
    >
    >
    > Tutors Urgently need for XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX
    >
    >
    > Location: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
    > Job Type: Permanent
    > Date posted: 25 Feb, 2010
    > From: gumtree.com
    >
    >
    > Description:
    > We currently need tutors for XXX in XXXXXXX, no experience in required
    > as Full Training will be given. The job post will close on the 15th
    > March. Applicants must forward a CV to XXX P.S - You cannot apply for
    > this position over the phone a CV must be forwarded to the given E-
    > mail. Thank you...
    >
    > =======================================================
    >
    >


    That sounds like a typical New Deal program run by A4e, I complained about
    that along similar lines to my MP. All I got back from my MP was the
    standard party reply to all queries and complaints about government depts.

    "The course is designed and tailored to help people like you Mr X, I do hope
    you enjoy time with A4e as they are very experienced and professional in
    their approach to helping clients such as yourself to regain employment. The
    service they provide is invaluable in this respect".

    That is how they reply to any complaints about draconian work regimes, by
    completely ignoring the points you raise. If animals were kept in over
    crowded conditions like that, there would be a public outcry. But because
    you are unemployed, no one gives a toss.

    If you really want to protest, do what I did. Get a tube of superglue and
    stick a couple of keys down on all the keyboards. Things like that, and
    anything you can think of to fck them about for wasting your time, attack
    the plumbing in the toilets as well, toilet bowls are very easy to break.
    Then they will have to let you leave the building as it is unsanitary. Set
    fire alarms off etc, don't let them catch you though and if they do find out
    it was you, say they have unbalanced you mentally.
     
    Niteawk, Apr 14, 2010
    #2
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