Quicken 2000 and Vista

Discussion in 'Quicken' started by Drew, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. Drew

    Drew Guest

    I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or convert
    my old files?

    Thanks

    Drew
     
    Drew, Jul 17, 2007
    #1
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  2. Drew

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Drew.

    Vista should be able to run Quicken 2000 and access your Quicken 2000 data
    files. HOW are you trying to access the files?

    Vista does have some new security features that irritate some users until
    they get familiar with Vista. If you tell us, step by step, how you
    installed Quicken 2000 and then how you tried to access the files, we should
    be able to help you get them working. As a first guess, what happens if you
    use Windows Explorer to browse to your *.qdf file and click on it?

    You should not have to buy Quicken 2007. But if you do buy it (or Q2008,
    which should be out within a month or two, if Intuit follows their usual
    schedule), it should also have no problems with Vista. It will find your
    Quicken 2000 data files and convert them to the Quicken 2007 format, after
    first saving copies of them in a new folder it will create, probably named
    Q00Files.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)

    "Drew" <> wrote in message
    news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >convert my old files?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Drew
     
    R. C. White, Jul 17, 2007
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  3. I don't know anything about Q2000's compatibility with Vista, but where are
    your Quicken data files located? If they're someplace that Vista has
    protected, there might be ownership problems. Try copying all those files
    into a directory under Documents and see if you can read them (assuming
    they're just copies of the regular files) or Restore them (if they're
    Backups).

    Dave


    "Drew" <> wrote in message
    news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >convert my old files?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Drew
    >
    >
    >
     
    David A. Lessnau, Jul 17, 2007
    #3
  4. Drew

    John Guest

    "Drew" <> wrote in message
    news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >convert my old files?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Drew
    >
    >
    >

    Make sure that the A attribute is set on all of the files.
    Quicken of that era couldn't find it's files if the A
    attribute was cleared. That was usually done by a
    backup program.
     
    John, Jul 17, 2007
    #4
  5. Drew

    Drew Guest

    Hi R C

    I installed Quicken with the original disk without incident. I moved my
    files into a data file under "Documents" on the new computer. I was unable
    to open them. I got an error message which said "Data losses were found in
    your file".

    I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer from
    my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it. I know that
    this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and "Excel files" on
    the Vista computer from my computer.

    Any help would be appreciated. We only use Quicken for bookkeeping, but it
    can get pretty complex at times. We certainly don't need more than Q2000
    Basic. I don't want to buy Q2007 if Q2000 is not the problem.

    Thanks

    Drew
    Dripping Springs



    "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi, Drew.
    >
    > Vista should be able to run Quicken 2000 and access your Quicken 2000 data
    > files. HOW are you trying to access the files?
    >
    > Vista does have some new security features that irritate some users until
    > they get familiar with Vista. If you tell us, step by step, how you
    > installed Quicken 2000 and then how you tried to access the files, we
    > should be able to help you get them working. As a first guess, what
    > happens if you use Windows Explorer to browse to your *.qdf file and click
    > on it?
    >
    > You should not have to buy Quicken 2007. But if you do buy it (or Q2008,
    > which should be out within a month or two, if Intuit follows their usual
    > schedule), it should also have no problems with Vista. It will find your
    > Quicken 2000 data files and convert them to the Quicken 2007 format, after
    > first saving copies of them in a new folder it will create, probably named
    > Q00Files.
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
    >
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > (Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)
    >
    > "Drew" <> wrote in message
    > news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >>I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >>can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >>convert my old files?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Drew

    >
     
    Drew, Jul 17, 2007
    #5
  6. Drew

    Drew Guest

    Thanks for the reply -

    Dumb question - what is the "A" attribute and how do I set it?

    Wes


    "John" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Drew" <> wrote in message
    > news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >>I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >>can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >>convert my old files?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Drew
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Make sure that the A attribute is set on all of the files.
    > Quicken of that era couldn't find it's files if the A
    > attribute was cleared. That was usually done by a
    > backup program.
    >
    >
     
    Drew, Jul 17, 2007
    #6
  7. [This followup was posted to alt.comp.software.financial.quicken and a
    copy was sent to the cited author.]

    In article <469d2b85$0$16538$>,
    says...
    > Thanks for the reply -
    >
    > Dumb question - what is the "A" attribute and how do I set it?


    The 'A' attribute is the Archive attribute. Whenever a file is changed,
    Windows sets this. Many backup programs will clear it after backing up
    the file.

    Quicken had a long-running quirk where it had problems accessing it's
    files on NTFS partitions. Sometimes, forcing the archive attribute on
    would fix it.

    To fix it, go to the directory that has your data files. Select all of
    them. Right-click and choose Properties. If you don't see 'archiving' on
    the box, see if there is an 'advanced...' button. If so, click that,
    then SET the checkbox for 'File is ready for archiving'. (I have Win2K,
    so I don't know how the dialogs have changed with XP and Vista.) You may
    also need to CLEAR any read-only setting, which can happen if you copied
    the data from a CD.

    --
    If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before replying!
    All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the
    law!!
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    Andrew Rossmann, Jul 17, 2007
    #7
  8. Drew

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Drew.

    You live in Drippin'? Howdy, Neighbor! ;<)

    It's not clear from your first paragraph that you moved the entire set of
    Quicken 2000 data files. As you probably know, what Quicken calls "a file"
    is actually a set of several (usually about 3 to 6) related files, all with
    the same name but different extensions: Drew.qdf, Drew.qtx, Drew.qel, etc.
    The exact number and extensions vary, depending on how YOU use Quicken.
    Whenever we let Quicken manipulate the fileset, it handles them all
    automatically. When we use non-Quicken tools - such as Windows Explorer's
    Copy or Move - then WE must be sure that we get the whole set. As I said,
    you probably know all that, but you didn't clearly say so.

    > I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    > from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it.


    As I've often stated here, I'm just one guy with one computer and no net but
    the Internet. I know nothing about networks, but I've seen many comments
    here from other users that make me question your conclusion that...

    > this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and "Excel files" on
    > the Vista computer from my computer.


    I'll let others discuss this aspect of the problem. But Word and Excel may
    be more network-aware than Quicken.

    Quicken 2000 is about as old as Windows 2000, which introduced new security
    measures. Many users here reported problems with getting Quicken installed
    and running in Win2K because it may have been installed by one user and
    unusable by another user. My single-user focus kept me from having to deal
    with these problems. But Vista's souped-up version of these restrictions
    may be causing Quicken to have trouble accessing all the files in the
    Quicken fileset. A more detailed description of exactly how you moved your
    data files, and the folder where you moved them, might help others spot the
    fly in this ointment. Simply saying, "I moved my files..." doesn't give us
    the details that we need to follow exactly what you did.

    When you have all your Quicken 2000 data fileset in a single folder on the
    Quicken computer, and you have access and can navigate to that folder with
    Windows Explorer, then you should be able to start Quicken with your file
    loaded by simply clicking on the *.qdf file. Have you tried this?

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)

    "Drew" <> wrote in message
    news:469d0e6a$0$29698$...
    > Hi R C
    >
    > I installed Quicken with the original disk without incident. I moved my
    > files into a data file under "Documents" on the new computer. I was
    > unable to open them. I got an error message which said "Data losses were
    > found in your file".
    >
    > I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    > from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it. I
    > know that this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and "Excel
    > files" on the Vista computer from my computer.
    >
    > Any help would be appreciated. We only use Quicken for bookkeeping, but
    > it can get pretty complex at times. We certainly don't need more than
    > Q2000 Basic. I don't want to buy Q2007 if Q2000 is not the problem.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Drew
    > Dripping Springs
    >
    > "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Hi, Drew.
    >>
    >> Vista should be able to run Quicken 2000 and access your Quicken 2000
    >> data files. HOW are you trying to access the files?
    >>
    >> Vista does have some new security features that irritate some users until
    >> they get familiar with Vista. If you tell us, step by step, how you
    >> installed Quicken 2000 and then how you tried to access the files, we
    >> should be able to help you get them working. As a first guess, what
    >> happens if you use Windows Explorer to browse to your *.qdf file and
    >> click on it?
    >>
    >> You should not have to buy Quicken 2007. But if you do buy it (or Q2008,
    >> which should be out within a month or two, if Intuit follows their usual
    >> schedule), it should also have no problems with Vista. It will find your
    >> Quicken 2000 data files and convert them to the Quicken 2007 format,
    >> after first saving copies of them in a new folder it will create,
    >> probably named Q00Files.
    >>
    >> RC
    >>
    >> "Drew" <> wrote in message
    >> news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >>>I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine. It
    >>>can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >>>convert my old files?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>>
    >>> Drew
     
    R. C. White, Jul 17, 2007
    #8
  9. Drew

    Han Guest

    "Drew" <> wrote in
    news:469cf480$0$4662$:

    > I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine.
    > It can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read
    > or convert my old files?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Drew
    >

    In addition to te other comments if you installed Q2000 off of a CD, it is
    possible you will need to do a one-step update or something else (since
    Q2000 is not supported by Intuit anymore, I think) to get the program
    updated to whatever revision it was used last at (R number on help, about
    on your old machine).

    But in any case, if you have file permissions set up correctly, you should
    be able to launch your old Q2000 on the XP machine by double-clicking on
    the qdf file located on the Vista machine, as mentioned.
    --
    Best regards
    Han
    email address is invalid
     
    Han, Jul 18, 2007
    #9
  10. Drew

    Drew Guest

    R C

    Thanks for the iterest! I put "Dripping Springs" to let you know I was just
    down the road from you.

    All the the files I ever had are all there (3 of them with special
    extensions). Incidently, I cannot even open the moved files on the Vista
    machine from my XP machine on the network. I can open the identical ones I
    left on my XP machine.

    Do you have any idea if Q2007 will work with Vista? I looked at a box
    yesterday and it did not include Vista in the Windows versions it works in
    (only Win98, ME and XP).

    Drew


    "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi, Drew.
    >
    > You live in Drippin'? Howdy, Neighbor! ;<)
    >
    > It's not clear from your first paragraph that you moved the entire set of
    > Quicken 2000 data files. As you probably know, what Quicken calls "a
    > file" is actually a set of several (usually about 3 to 6) related files,
    > all with the same name but different extensions: Drew.qdf, Drew.qtx,
    > Drew.qel, etc. The exact number and extensions vary, depending on how YOU
    > use Quicken. Whenever we let Quicken manipulate the fileset, it handles
    > them all automatically. When we use non-Quicken tools - such as Windows
    > Explorer's Copy or Move - then WE must be sure that we get the whole set.
    > As I said, you probably know all that, but you didn't clearly say so.
    >
    >> I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    >> from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it.

    >
    > As I've often stated here, I'm just one guy with one computer and no net
    > but the Internet. I know nothing about networks, but I've seen many
    > comments here from other users that make me question your conclusion
    > that...
    >
    >> this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and "Excel files"
    >> on the Vista computer from my computer.

    >
    > I'll let others discuss this aspect of the problem. But Word and Excel
    > may be more network-aware than Quicken.
    >
    > Quicken 2000 is about as old as Windows 2000, which introduced new
    > security measures. Many users here reported problems with getting Quicken
    > installed and running in Win2K because it may have been installed by one
    > user and unusable by another user. My single-user focus kept me from
    > having to deal with these problems. But Vista's souped-up version of
    > these restrictions may be causing Quicken to have trouble accessing all
    > the files in the Quicken fileset. A more detailed description of exactly
    > how you moved your data files, and the folder where you moved them, might
    > help others spot the fly in this ointment. Simply saying, "I moved my
    > files..." doesn't give us the details that we need to follow exactly what
    > you did.
    >
    > When you have all your Quicken 2000 data fileset in a single folder on the
    > Quicken computer, and you have access and can navigate to that folder with
    > Windows Explorer, then you should be able to start Quicken with your file
    > loaded by simply clicking on the *.qdf file. Have you tried this?
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
    >
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > (Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)
    >
    > "Drew" <> wrote in message
    > news:469d0e6a$0$29698$...
    >> Hi R C
    >>
    >> I installed Quicken with the original disk without incident. I moved my
    >> files into a data file under "Documents" on the new computer. I was
    >> unable to open them. I got an error message which said "Data losses were
    >> found in your file".
    >>
    >> I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    >> from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it. I
    >> know that this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and
    >> "Excel files" on the Vista computer from my computer.
    >>
    >> Any help would be appreciated. We only use Quicken for bookkeeping, but
    >> it can get pretty complex at times. We certainly don't need more than
    >> Q2000 Basic. I don't want to buy Q2007 if Q2000 is not the problem.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Drew
    >> Dripping Springs
    >>
    >> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> Hi, Drew.
    >>>
    >>> Vista should be able to run Quicken 2000 and access your Quicken 2000
    >>> data files. HOW are you trying to access the files?
    >>>
    >>> Vista does have some new security features that irritate some users
    >>> until they get familiar with Vista. If you tell us, step by step, how
    >>> you installed Quicken 2000 and then how you tried to access the files,
    >>> we should be able to help you get them working. As a first guess, what
    >>> happens if you use Windows Explorer to browse to your *.qdf file and
    >>> click on it?
    >>>
    >>> You should not have to buy Quicken 2007. But if you do buy it (or
    >>> Q2008, which should be out within a month or two, if Intuit follows
    >>> their usual schedule), it should also have no problems with Vista. It
    >>> will find your Quicken 2000 data files and convert them to the Quicken
    >>> 2007 format, after first saving copies of them in a new folder it will
    >>> create, probably named Q00Files.
    >>>
    >>> RC
    >>>
    >>> "Drew" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >>>>I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine.
    >>>>It can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >>>>convert my old files?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>>
    >>>> Drew

    >
     
    Drew, Jul 18, 2007
    #10
  11. Drew

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Drew.

    > Do you have any idea if Q2007 will work with Vista?


    I use Quicken 2007 Basic on Vista Ultimate x64 every day. When the Quicken
    2007 boxes were printed, Vista was still in beta and about 6 months from
    release to the general market. I used Q05, 06 and 07 all through the Vista
    beta, re-installing them so many times I lost count. ;^}

    > All the the files I ever had are all there (3 of them with special
    > extensions).


    That PROBABLY should be all of them, but I always feel more confident if I
    let Quicken do the File | Copy to the new location. What extensions are in
    your Quicken 2000's BACKUP folder, the one created automatically by Quicken
    and used to store the weekly automatic backups? Unless you changed the
    defaults, you should find five complete sets of your data files, dated a
    week apart, in that subfolder in the folder where Q2000 always kept your
    working copy of your data fileset.

    > Incidently, I cannot even open the moved files on the Vista machine from
    > my XP machine on the network. I can open the identical ones I left on my
    > XP machine.


    As I said, I know nothing of networks, but I've heard that Quicken has
    problems working with one.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)

    "Drew" <> wrote in message
    news:469e0ffe$0$20534$...
    >R C
    >
    > Thanks for the iterest! I put "Dripping Springs" to let you know I was
    > just down the road from you.
    >
    > All the the files I ever had are all there (3 of them with special
    > extensions). Incidently, I cannot even open the moved files on the Vista
    > machine from my XP machine on the network. I can open the identical ones
    > I left on my XP machine.
    >
    > Do you have any idea if Q2007 will work with Vista? I looked at a box
    > yesterday and it did not include Vista in the Windows versions it works in
    > (only Win98, ME and XP).
    >
    > Drew
    >
    >
    > "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Hi, Drew.
    >>
    >> You live in Drippin'? Howdy, Neighbor! ;<)
    >>
    >> It's not clear from your first paragraph that you moved the entire set of
    >> Quicken 2000 data files. As you probably know, what Quicken calls "a
    >> file" is actually a set of several (usually about 3 to 6) related files,
    >> all with the same name but different extensions: Drew.qdf, Drew.qtx,
    >> Drew.qel, etc. The exact number and extensions vary, depending on how YOU
    >> use Quicken. Whenever we let Quicken manipulate the fileset, it handles
    >> them all automatically. When we use non-Quicken tools - such as Windows
    >> Explorer's Copy or Move - then WE must be sure that we get the whole set.
    >> As I said, you probably know all that, but you didn't clearly say so.
    >>
    >>> I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    >>> from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it.

    >>
    >> As I've often stated here, I'm just one guy with one computer and no net
    >> but the Internet. I know nothing about networks, but I've seen many
    >> comments here from other users that make me question your conclusion
    >> that...
    >>
    >>> this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and "Excel files"
    >>> on the Vista computer from my computer.

    >>
    >> I'll let others discuss this aspect of the problem. But Word and Excel
    >> may be more network-aware than Quicken.
    >>
    >> Quicken 2000 is about as old as Windows 2000, which introduced new
    >> security measures. Many users here reported problems with getting
    >> Quicken installed and running in Win2K because it may have been installed
    >> by one user and unusable by another user. My single-user focus kept me
    >> from having to deal with these problems. But Vista's souped-up version
    >> of these restrictions may be causing Quicken to have trouble accessing
    >> all the files in the Quicken fileset. A more detailed description of
    >> exactly how you moved your data files, and the folder where you moved
    >> them, might help others spot the fly in this ointment. Simply saying, "I
    >> moved my files..." doesn't give us the details that we need to follow
    >> exactly what you did.
    >>
    >> When you have all your Quicken 2000 data fileset in a single folder on
    >> the Quicken computer, and you have access and can navigate to that folder
    >> with Windows Explorer, then you should be able to start Quicken with your
    >> file loaded by simply clicking on the *.qdf file. Have you tried this?
    >>
    >> RC
    >>
    >> "Drew" <> wrote in message
    >> news:469d0e6a$0$29698$...
    >>> Hi R C
    >>>
    >>> I installed Quicken with the original disk without incident. I moved my
    >>> files into a data file under "Documents" on the new computer. I was
    >>> unable to open them. I got an error message which said "Data losses
    >>> were found in your file".
    >>>
    >>> I have a home network and tried to open the files on the Vista computer
    >>> from my XP machine with my copy of Q2000 Basic, it could not do it. I
    >>> know that this is not a network problem since I can open "Word" and
    >>> "Excel files" on the Vista computer from my computer.
    >>>
    >>> Any help would be appreciated. We only use Quicken for bookkeeping, but
    >>> it can get pretty complex at times. We certainly don't need more than
    >>> Q2000 Basic. I don't want to buy Q2007 if Q2000 is not the problem.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>>
    >>> Drew
    >>> Dripping Springs
    >>>
    >>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> Hi, Drew.
    >>>>
    >>>> Vista should be able to run Quicken 2000 and access your Quicken 2000
    >>>> data files. HOW are you trying to access the files?
    >>>>
    >>>> Vista does have some new security features that irritate some users
    >>>> until they get familiar with Vista. If you tell us, step by step, how
    >>>> you installed Quicken 2000 and then how you tried to access the files,
    >>>> we should be able to help you get them working. As a first guess, what
    >>>> happens if you use Windows Explorer to browse to your *.qdf file and
    >>>> click on it?
    >>>>
    >>>> You should not have to buy Quicken 2007. But if you do buy it (or
    >>>> Q2008, which should be out within a month or two, if Intuit follows
    >>>> their usual schedule), it should also have no problems with Vista. It
    >>>> will find your Quicken 2000 data files and convert them to the Quicken
    >>>> 2007 format, after first saving copies of them in a new folder it will
    >>>> create, probably named Q00Files.
    >>>>
    >>>> RC
    >>>>
    >>>> "Drew" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:469cf480$0$4662$...
    >>>>>I installed my old Quicken 2000 on my new Vista Home Premium machine.
    >>>>>It can't read my files. Must I buy Q 2007? Will it be able to read or
    >>>>>convert my old files?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Drew
     
    R. C. White, Jul 18, 2007
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