VAT Question : Taxi?

Discussion in 'UK Accountancy' started by Rob Meade, May 13, 2004.

  1. Rob Meade

    Rob Meade Guest

    Hi,

    Firstly, can you claim VAT back for taxi costs to the business?

    Secondly - where can I find a pretty good list of the things you can and
    cannot claim VAT back for - I've tried the Customs and Excise website but
    found little information of use.

    Any help appreciated,

    Regards

    Rob
     
    Rob Meade, May 13, 2004
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  2. Rob Meade

    Peter Saxton Guest

    On Thu, 13 May 2004 18:43:16 GMT, "Rob Meade"
    <> wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >Firstly, can you claim VAT back for taxi costs to the business?
    >
    >Secondly - where can I find a pretty good list of the things you can and
    >cannot claim VAT back for - I've tried the Customs and Excise website but
    >found little information of use.
    >
    >Any help appreciated,
    >
    >Regards
    >
    >Rob
    >

    Taxi costs are standard rated so as long as you get a valid VAT
    invoice you can claim the VAT back if you are VAT registered.


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    Peter Saxton from London
     
    Peter Saxton, May 13, 2004
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  3. Rob Meade wrote:

    > Firstly, can you claim VAT back for taxi costs to the business?


    If the taxi driver is VAT registered. Most aren't, as they earn below the
    threshold so are not required to register.
     
    Jonathan Bryce, May 13, 2004
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  4. Rob Meade

    Rob Meade Guest

    Thanks

    As above really,

    Cheers

    Rob
     
    Rob Meade, May 13, 2004
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  5. "Rob Meade" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    >
    > Firstly, can you claim VAT back for taxi costs to the business?
    >
    > Secondly - where can I find a pretty good list of the things you can and
    > cannot claim VAT back for - I've tried the Customs and Excise website but
    > found little information of use.
    >



    Their website isn't too bad if you play with it for a while. Most
    of the info of use to you is under the VAT notices section, this
    one is fairly good on the basic stuff, but have a good look around.

    http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/700-15.htm

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    Edward Cowling - London - UK
     
    Edward Cowling, May 13, 2004
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  6. "Rob Meade" <> wrote in message news:<8lPoc.2868$%>...
    >
    > Secondly - where can I find a pretty good list of the things you can and
    > cannot claim VAT back for - I've tried the Customs and Excise website but
    > found little information of use.


    Hi Rob,

    You can only claim VAT back if you have a valid VAT invoice in front
    of you, so that's the short answer.

    The longer answer is:

    UK Sales of anything *can* be VATable, unless they are:

    EXEMPT
    Subscriptions to professional organisations
    Health
    Education
    etc

    ZERO RATED (*is* VATable but at 0% rate)
    Newspapers
    Books
    Children's clothes
    etc

    OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF VAT
    Bank Interest
    Council Tax
    etc
     
    Troy Steadman, May 14, 2004
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  7. Rob Meade

    Peter Saxton Guest

    On 13 May 2004 22:26:53 -0700, (Troy
    Steadman) wrote:

    >"Rob Meade" <> wrote in message news:<8lPoc.2868$%>...
    >>
    >> Secondly - where can I find a pretty good list of the things you can and
    >> cannot claim VAT back for - I've tried the Customs and Excise website but
    >> found little information of use.

    >
    >Hi Rob,
    >
    >You can only claim VAT back if you have a valid VAT invoice in front
    >of you, so that's the short answer.
    >
    >The longer answer is:
    >
    >UK Sales of anything *can* be VATable, unless they are:
    >
    >EXEMPT
    >Subscriptions to professional organisations
    >Health
    >Education
    >etc
    >
    >ZERO RATED (*is* VATable but at 0% rate)
    >Newspapers
    >Books
    >Children's clothes
    >etc
    >
    >OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF VAT
    >Bank Interest
    >Council Tax
    >etc


    So "etc." is all three?


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    Peter Saxton from London
     
    Peter Saxton, May 14, 2004
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  8. Rob Meade

    Mike Phipps Guest

    > So "etc." is all three?

    Of course it relates to all those items that fall into more than one
    category - bay trees, raisons, warm pies etc - of course none of these are
    usually available from your local taxi firm....


    M
     
    Mike Phipps, May 14, 2004
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  9. "Mike Phipps" <> wrote in message
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    > > So "etc." is all three?


    > Of course it relates to all those items that fall into more than one
    > category - bay trees, raisons, warm pies etc - of course none of these are
    > usually available from your local taxi firm....


    Okay warm pies are standard rated but not if they are only warm by
    virtue of the fact that they are cold pies which haven't cooled
    down yet. I know Jaffa "cakes" made the switch when they were declared
    "biscuits" either that or the other way round.

    But what about bay trees? And raisons? Raisons d'etre? Raisons to be
    cheerful?



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    Troy Steadman, May 14, 2004
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  10. Rob Meade

    Martin Guest

    "Troy Steadman" <> wrote in message
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    > I know Jaffa "cakes" made the switch when they were declared
    > "biscuits" either that or the other way round.


    I thought they featured in EU product description rulings rather than VAT -
    though I can't be a***d to check.

    And I think you'll find that under as-yet un-revoked 18th century
    legislation, you are not allowed to smoke jaffa cakes in a taxi.

    (maybe I shouldn't have posted that - I bet you'll now post to uk.legal to
    check :)

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    Martin, May 14, 2004
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  11. "Martin" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > (maybe I shouldn't have posted that - I bet you'll now post to uk.legal to
    > check :)


    uk.legal have p****d me off so much I don't post to them any more. The
    unmoderated bit is overrun by loonies, the moderated bit is overrun by
    people who won't allow anything to be posted.





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    Troy Steadman, May 14, 2004
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  12. Rob Meade

    Martin Guest

    "Troy Steadman" <> wrote in message
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    > The [ uk.legal ]
    > unmoderated bit is overrun by loonies


    Well I never....

    Troy - you won't like this, and I'm not looking for a fight, but... the
    nature of uk.b.a. has changed dramatically in recent months, from a series
    of real questions and helpful answers at a digestible volume to a series of
    very nearly OT and certainly hypothetical threads, containing
    extraordinarily lengthy and convoluted answers. Many valuable and clearly
    expert contributors from a little while ago are now conspicuous by their
    absence.

    I'm guilty of contributing to some of these, I know, but if we aren't to let
    this unmoderated group go the same way, then perhaps we should all make a
    big effort to confine posts to addressing issues which are of real-world and
    real-time help to us all.


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    Martin, May 15, 2004
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  13. "Martin" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Troy Steadman" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    > > The [ uk.legal ]
    > > unmoderated bit is overrun by loonies

    >
    > Well I never....
    >
    > Troy - you won't like this, and I'm not looking for a fight, but... the
    > nature of uk.b.a. has changed dramatically in recent months, from a series
    > of real questions and helpful answers at a digestible volume to a series of
    > very nearly OT...


    ....you can only be very nearly OT if you are ON Topic...

    > and certainly hypothetical threads,


    ....hang on, are you talking about IHT planning? You are worrying about
    what to do with IR35 Losses so that is "on topic" for you. I'm sorry if
    I distracted your thread, but it was vaguely written and (as Ronald
    showed you) easily solved, albeit not in the way you wanted it solved.

    IHT Planning is off topic, hypothetical, belongs in uk.legal? What are
    you saying Martin?

    We are 5 years through a 7 year IHT scheme in the SE very similar to the
    one described and people further down the street are being offered
    telephone numbers to allow their houses to be demolished.

    Seems like a very good time to brush up on IHT and Ronald is a diamond
    geezer if ever there was one, I assume you are a Chartered Accountant?
    If not trust me IHT is on topic.

    > containing
    > extraordinarily lengthy and convoluted answers.


    Which is a bad thing?

    > Many valuable and clearly
    > expert contributors from a little while ago are now conspicuous by their
    > absence.


    It's easy to assert this sort of thing. If it is true and if it my fault
    then I'll do what all Usenet pests do, go away and come back as somebody
    else.

    > I'm guilty of contributing to some of these, I know, but if we aren't to let
    > this unmoderated group go the same way, then perhaps we should all make a
    > big effort to confine posts to addressing issues which are of real-world and
    > real-time help to us all.


    Okay point taken, but is ukba just for the professionals or can anyone
    join in?




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    Troy Steadman, May 15, 2004
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  14. Troy Steadman wrote:

    > Okay point taken, but is ukba just for the professionals or can anyone
    > join in?


    Anyone can join in, but Worthing and Bayeux are off topic, OK?
     
    Ronald Raygun, May 15, 2004
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  15. Rob Meade

    Martin Guest

    "Troy Steadman" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > ...you can only be very nearly OT if you are ON Topic...


    Accepted. I was trying hard not to be too provocative or argumentative by
    givign the benefit of the doubt.

    > ...hang on, are you talking about IHT planning?


    Far from it. Rather, the trend, in recent weeks, for quiz-type questions to
    be set. Though in the case of the IHT thread, this too came across like
    that. Especially when you said "Anyway you scored 9 out of 10 by
    deliberately answering the wrong question Martin, very impressive!" but
    didn't elaborate when I queried what you meant. But that's trivial, and I
    certainly don't want you to think I'm getting out of my pram or anything.
    Rather, your previous post re. legal flagged up a cautionary note which made
    me reflect on the change I've seen here recently.

    I find your posts, and RRs, very eloquent, amusing and informative -
    regardless of whether I agree with the posts.

    I'm more concerned with enuring that others continue to lurk and post - and
    do not leave because they think the group's losing its way.

    > You are worrying about
    > what to do with IR35 Losses so that is "on topic" for you. I'm sorry if
    > I distracted your thread, but it was vaguely written and (as Ronald
    > showed you) easily solved, albeit not in the way you wanted it solved.


    That's just one example. The interesting thing was that folk who
    (presumably) are dealing with IR35 clients accept that you can get losses
    (Jonathan Bryce, twice & Peter Saxton). But the thread quickly focused on
    how to avoid having a loss, rather than my OP about the implications of
    accumulating losses.

    Similarly, this thread started with quick straightforward answers to the
    original question. But then much longer stuff about all kinds of VAT and
    jaffa issues.

    > We are 5 years through a 7 year IHT scheme in the SE very similar to the
    > one described and people further down the street are being offered
    > telephone numbers to allow their houses to be demolished.


    As explained, I wasn't highlighting this thread in particular - though I
    admit to not immediatley recognising it as a "real" issue - mea culpa, but
    perhaps a bit of crying wolf, too?

    > > containing
    > > extraordinarily lengthy and convoluted answers.

    >
    > Which is a bad thing?


    Only if it leads to what you say happened in legal (I don't go in that room
    , sorry)

    > > Many valuable and clearly
    > > expert contributors from a little while ago are now conspicuous by their
    > > absence.

    >
    > It's easy to assert this sort of thing. If it is true and if it my fault


    I think it's true, but then so did Piers Morgan. I'm not saying anything is
    your fault, Troy, and certainly many here have joined in the fun. I merely
    hope this continure to be a NG where good answers to qu's continue to
    flourish.

    > then I'll do what all Usenet pests do, go away and come back as somebody
    > else.


    I hope you know by now that's not what I'm saying at all at all.

    > Okay point taken, but is ukba just for the professionals or can anyone
    > join in?


    You don't need to ask!!

    Have good w/e - off on my travels now, till tomorrow.


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    Martin, May 15, 2004
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  16. "Martin" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > I'm more concerned with enuring that others continue to lurk and post - and
    > do not leave because they think the group's losing its way.


    I accept that. I post way too often, using it (like others here I
    suspect) as a distraction from what I *ought* to be doing. I will amend
    my ways.

    > > > ...extraordinarily lengthy and convoluted answers.

    > >
    > > Which is a bad thing?

    >
    > Only if it leads to what you say happened in legal (I don't go in that room
    > , sorry)


    uk.legal is hugely successful. It has a vast amount of traffic and many
    very wise, interesting and dedicated contributors.

    Unfortunately its popularity means it is cross-posted to by hundreds of
    people with their own axes to grind, including the sort of seriously
    disturbed people you might expect to find more often in a solicitor's
    office than you would in an accountants.

    So after some years of squabbling and ranting, alongside it has to be
    said some excellent deep discussion by people who *really* know what
    they are talking about, the leading professionals marched off into a
    moderated group which two of their number will moderate.

    This only happened *very* recently, uklm only appeared in Google for the
    first time this week.

    It is too early to say how things will pan out. The unmoderated portion
    is now a less diluted seething of ranting and raging, but it is the only
    one the hoi-polloi can post to from Google. What concerns me
    is that the moderated section is offending people will-nilly (not me,
    not yet) by rejecting posts they have put a lot of time into on the
    grounds that they are *duplicates*.

    It is in the nature of Usenet that we all see our posts at different
    times, sometimes the first post that was allowed through was
    chronologically the last post that had been posted. If that answer was
    also inferior I can understand that people might get p****d off.

    None of this has any impact on me, I grew disatisfied with
    uk.legal long before. Anyway I will use (and have used) uklm in the way
    it *must* be used, and I'm sure it will succeed. I hope so.

    > ...I merely hope this continure to be a NG where good answers to
    > qu's continue to flourish.


    I'd drink to that but it's too early in the morning.





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    Troy Steadman, May 16, 2004
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  17. Rob Meade

    Rob Meade Guest

    Soooooo....

    ...someone mentioned pies?

    :eek:)

    Thanks for the replies people - damn good of you all.

    Cheers

    Rob
     
    Rob Meade, May 16, 2004
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