2004 in only 12 days


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$2K3 User

We've been talking about it for weeks. I can't wait!! And since no one can
talk about because of the NDA - I've decided to break the NDA!!

(tongue firmly planted in cheek)

2004 promises to bring:

* Disappearing Payees just like in 2003 version! Yes, right before your
eyes your Payees that you've used for years auto-magically disappear.

* Barely able to run on a GHz machine! Just like recent Money versions
we've always knew you loved the fact that this is one bloated piece of
software.

* Memory Eater Feature! You didn't think we'd actually lose this great
feature. We'll use as much memory as possible for Money Express - even
though it doesn't need it!

* Moneycentral Non-Synchronization! That's right, we don't want MSFT
software to communicate properly to other MSFT features! Who wants that?!


- and there's even more features not included! -

* Stock Options - NOT! - seriously who has these now after the dot com bust?
You don't need to be able to work with Stock Options in Money - use Excel
instead!

* Cash Flow is still just like 2003! Yep, we really wanted to mess with
what people found functional in previous versions of Money so why ruin a
good thing!

*NEW BUGS! That's right!! NEW bugs!! Who would be happy if we didn't
introduce NEW bugs with the OLD bugs we've left in from Money 2003 and other
previous versions!!

And don't forget the NEW "Premier" Edition is just like last years Deluxe
Edition - but only MORE EXPENSIVE! Yea!!!
 
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Aloke Prasad

Since you are breaking the NDA ... I might as well do that too.

Still not included - 401 K vesting schedule. No sane person (the target
audience for M2004) would be investing in 401K anyway. A new type of
accounts "Backyard burial" and "Under the Mattress" are included instead.
 
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Douglas Pommering

Ridiculous. I've got MS Money 2003 Deluxe and Business running like butter
on a machine with a 935MHz Pentium III CPU and only 512 MB of RAM. Get
this: I'm using Windows Me, not XP (which I would love to have). Yes, it
does require more sophistication to use it since the software is clearly
getting "smarter" and more capable at a rapid rate.

Yes, it is more demanding than previous versions of Money. But it simply
doesn't require the kind of SERIOUS computer you're intimating it does to
function properly and, while I appreciate tongue-in-cheek humor, finances
are serious business and people on this newsgroup are asking for help with
something important--not a comedian and not an anti-Microsoft diatribe
which is quite simply out of line.
 
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$2K3 User

Doug - You're in serious need of a Whoopie Cushion!!

I don't know how long you've been using this product (don't reply because I
really don't care), but most of us have been using it since its inception
and while most of us would agree that it's the best out there, it has its
flaws - just like your lack of a sense of humor.

One last comment, until MSFT actually puts the makers of Money out here to
assist folks with the software, I will diatribe all I see fit.
 
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NickKnight

Yes, it is more demanding than previous versions of Money. But it simply
doesn't require the kind of SERIOUS computer you're intimating it does to
function properly and, while I appreciate tongue-in-cheek humor, finances
are serious business and people on this newsgroup are asking for help with
something important--not a comedian and not an anti-Microsoft diatribe
which is quite simply out of line.
Let me put it this way. I've been using Money for many
years, after having to do a hard reset and
reinstall everything on my hp548 every time
Micrsoft Money throws a fit when it comes to
Money I need some humor to help
me cope with this program.
 
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Kevin Campbell

I have to say that, FOR ME, Money 2003 has been the best version of Money
since Money 99. I did switch to a new PC (1.6GHz Athelon, 512 Mb memory)
shortly after installing Money 2003, but I haven't had a problem with Money
2003, yet.

However, I still agree that Money has gotten too bloated and has too many
fluff features and I know that it does have problems that have never been
addressed by MS, the Retirement Account Wizard being my number 1 issue. I
guess I just don't use the features that have been causing some folks
problems.

I do have to say though, that you really need to get a sense of humor. Just
because it's been running great for you (and me) doesn't mean that others
haven't had problems and that we shouldn't have some fun talking about those
problems. Poking fun helps deal with the frustration and, who knows, maybe
someone at MS will get the "hint" that there are actually problems with
Money that need to be addressed. One can hope!!
 
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SteveC

The posting was good fun and I laughed. The best version and most reliable
was Money97. I never have quite gotten over the bloat with the HTML-look
that Money acquired in 1998; however, I think that Money03 has been the best
version since 97. I think it is a shame that the Feds didn't allow
Microsoft to buy Quicken as I think the two together would have been great.
 
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Douglas Pommering

Well, maybe. I do have a sense of humor. I just don't think that being
funny is going to address technical issues that UPSET people. And
considering the near panic some posters here exhibit, I think that some of
us need to remember that there are newbies out there who need help, not a
pat on the back.

That's all I mean's
 
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Douglas Pommering

Sure it can. Identify the .exe file that attempts to access the Internet
and instruct the firewall to always permit it to do so. I will say in all
fairness that this assumes one has Symantec's product (Norton 2003 in my
case, which I am used to)) and also admin access. The story might be
different on a network where one is not the system admin and can't get the
firewall configured to permit the particular .exe file to access the net for
whatever reason or can't get his computer to be considered a "trusted site".
 
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Dick Watson

I run an external firewall. No way to do this. In any case, I should
***not*** have to open network security just to let Money download a stock
quote. How absurd is that?

Douglas Pommering said:
Sure it can. Identify the .exe file that attempts to access the Internet
and instruct the firewall to always permit it to do so. I will say in all
fairness that this assumes one has Symantec's product (Norton 2003 in my
case, which I am used to)) and also admin access. The story might be
different on a network where one is not the system admin and can't get the
firewall configured to permit the particular .exe file to access the net for
whatever reason or can't get his computer to be considered a "trusted
site".
 
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Dick Watson

Yes, I'm sharing the DSL connection across all the machines here in the
basement computer museum and the WiFi rovers about the rest of the house,
besides.

What I've been doing to get quotes is either a) dropping the firewall just
long enough to get quotes--about 20 seconds or so, unlike the several hours
it takes to timeout if the firewall is up, or b) opening a dialup connection
just long enough to get the quotes. I've got a DSL pipe and a firewall and
the best way I can get quotes for Money is reverting to dial up. Absurd, I
say.
 
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Bob Peel, MVP

Dick, FWIW I have a shared DSL connection with a Netgear DG814 router and I
am using ZoneAlarm Pro with out of the box settings. I have just checked and
my quotes are downloading just fine. Although I have been around computers
for a while, Firewalls and routers are a complete black art so I haven't
"played". I have used the www.grc.com sites Shields Up to check my security
and apart from port 21 FTP being closed everything else is in stealth mode.
Might be worth having a look at grc.
 
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Dick Watson

That's what mine points to now. That's not what it pointed at when M03 came
out of the carton or up until the time I put it in the registry by hand as
noted in the FAQ answer on this topic. I think there was some issue with how
that value got in there on various machines from various back levels updated
at various times.
 
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A.A. Fussy

According tio quicken australia-sep;tember for its new version (so money
wouldn;t support those new versions)
 
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Aloke Prasad

NickKnight said:
And as someone who has a 401K why not?
Groan! It was a joke, considering the beating that most 401K accounts have
taken over the last 3 years.

I guess Douglas Pommering was right. Humor has no place in this newsgroup.
 

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