a lab near a farm?


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Yes Baby

Yes Baby said:
yes and Merial is now selling vaccine to the government..............for a
small fortune no doubt.
300,000 does to be precise at what price per dose............good money
what.
 
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Alan

Virgils Ghost said:
"A lab in the middle of a major city? wtf???!!!"
i would hardly call the outskirts of pirbright "a major city" and it has
been there for 50 years to my knowledge, without any problems as far as i
know
 
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Tom Bradbury

wtf???!!!
i would hardly call the outskirts of pirbright "a major city" and it has
been there for 50 years to my knowledge, without any problems as far as i
know
No Alan......he was being ironic........meaning, where else should they put
a lab but in the middle of countryside away from people who matter, next to
animals and beasts that don't.

IANAV.
 
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Tumbleweed

Tom Bradbury said:
No Alan......he was being ironic........meaning, where else should they
put a lab but in the middle of countryside away from people who matter,
next to animals and beasts that don't.

IANAV.
Err no, he was being ironic, but meaning it has to be somewhere , so
wherever it is people would complain.
 
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Gallagher

yer both right. nevertheless, future labs ought to be on offshore islands
for obvious reasons.
plus, there is no finger pointing and paranoia over the 'extent' of the
damage
should one occur. alas, economic factors would brush aside any such
considerations.
 
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Mark Goodge

Err no, he was being ironic, but meaning it has to be somewhere , so
wherever it is people would complain.
Well, it does seem a little odd that a lab dealing specifically with
diseases which infect farm animals should be so close to farms with
animals on them. In this case, it would actually make more sense to
put it in the centre of a city, given that Foot & Mouth isn't a threat
to humans or domestic animals such as cats and dogs. Or, if the
countryside is better, then somewhere like East Anglia where nearly
all the farms are arable with very few dairy cattle. You could stick
it in the middle of the Cambridgeshire fens and there won't be a cow
within miles. Or a Scottish island, where, even if the disease does
escape, it can't get far.

Mark
 
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Virgils Ghost

Mark Goodge said:
Well, it does seem a little odd that a lab dealing specifically with
diseases which infect farm animals should be so close to farms with
animals on them. In this case, it would actually make more sense to
put it in the centre of a city, given that Foot & Mouth isn't a threat
to humans or domestic animals such as cats and dogs.
If there's a leak it's simply a matter of transmission, in that context it
would mean cordoning off a city centre for days on end and trying to isolate
and disinfect an entire sewerage system. At Perbright a possible vector for
the current FMD outbreak is an employee transferring it to an allotment
site, imagine such interactions in a town or city but x1000.

A alternative might be to convert surrounding farming to arable, or for them
to get their shit together so biosecurity doesn't risk the environment
regardless of where the lab is located. It's not OK to have old virus
strains floating about 'out there' even if there's no surrounding animals
about.
 
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Marcus Fox

Gallagher said:
wtf???!!!
Interestingly enough, this facility is American owned. But just look how the
Americans do things. The American government does not permit the study of
live FMD anwhere on the American mainland, instead they have an Island
facility off the east coast.

Marcus
 
G

Gallagher

my point exactly.

Marcus Fox said:
Interestingly enough, this facility is American owned. But just look how the
Americans do things. The American government does not permit the study of
live FMD anwhere on the American mainland, instead they have an Island
facility off the east coast.

Marcus
 
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Mark Goodge

[Post re-arranged into a more sensible order]

my point exactly.
Well, not necessarily. There are two different lines of reasoning from
this:

1. FMD is too dangerous to be investigated without the benefit of
geographical isolation. The Americans realise this, and enforce it
appropriately.

2. American practice is to insist on geographical isolation when
studying FMD, which means that US companies are unfamiliar with the
additional safeguards necessary when labs are not isolated. This lack
of additional bio-scurity makes a US-owned lab a potential danger when
located according to British practice.

Mark
 

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