Advice needed about IB and non-dependants


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Sarah

I need some advice regarding my benefit entitlements due to a possible
change in circumstance please.

I am currently in receipt of IS (inc all disability premiums) and DLA
(HR care & LR mobility) and have one dependant child living at home. I
also receive full HB/CT benefits.

For the past week or so my elder son (19) has been staying with me,
having previously been living in hostel accomodation and in receipt of
JSA in a different part of the country, but it is becoming apparent that
he is suffering MH problems which is making it difficult for him to find
work and also cope with living on his own.

If I were to allow him to stay on a more permanent basis until he can
get back on his feet how would this affect my benefits?

Also, as he is an adult now I know I can't claim anything for him, but
would he be entitled to claim any benefits in his own right and how
would that work with me already being in receipt of benefits? It would
be a struggle for me to provide for him on a long term basis, especially
if I lose any benefit by him staying here.

And finally, assuming I can get him to seek medical help (he is in
denial he is ill but it is clearly obvious he isn't well) what other
help would be available to him (he won't be entitled to IB as he hasn't
worked regularly since leaving school) and again, how would that affect
any of my benefit entitlement.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received, thanks.
 
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pendragon

"Sarah" has asked for advice:
I need some advice regarding my benefit entitlements due to a possible
change in circumstance please.

I am currently in receipt of IS (inc all disability premiums) and DLA (HR
care & LR mobility) and have one dependant child living at home. I also
receive full HB/CT benefits.

For the past week or so my elder son (19) has been staying with me, having
previously been living in hostel accomodation and in receipt of JSA in a
different part of the country, but it is becoming apparent that he is
suffering MH problems which is making it difficult for him to find work
and also cope with living on his own.

If I were to allow him to stay on a more permanent basis until he can get
back on his feet how would this affect my benefits?

Also, as he is an adult now I know I can't claim anything for him, but
would he be entitled to claim any benefits in his own right and how would
that work with me already being in receipt of benefits? It would be a
struggle for me to provide for him on a long term basis, especially if I
lose any benefit by him staying here.

And finally, assuming I can get him to seek medical help (he is in denial
he is ill but it is clearly obvious he isn't well) what other help would
be available to him (he won't be entitled to IB as he hasn't worked
regularly since leaving school) and again, how would that affect any of my
benefit entitlement.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received, thanks.

I am sorry that your son has problems. The problems can probably be best be
helped by being with his family.
Even if you do lose a little in benefit entitlement (which is unlikely) then
your first reaction as an obviously caring parent must be to assist him in
any way that you can. I am sure that you will. It will do him no good to
move again particularly if he has difficulty living on his own.

On a purely financial note, remember that the Social Services department of
the local council will assist you as well.
 
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Sarah

pendragon said:
I am sorry that your son has problems. The problems can probably be best be
helped by being with his family.
Even if you do lose a little in benefit entitlement (which is unlikely) then
your first reaction as an obviously caring parent must be to assist him in
any way that you can. I am sure that you will. It will do him no good to
move again particularly if he has difficulty living on his own.
Yes, of course his welfare and MH is more important than money and I
realise I may have come across as caring more about losing benefits in
my post, but my main priority is to help him get back on his feet if
possible. It would just be helpful to know what to expect with regard to
any changes in my benefits so I can prepare for any cutbacks etc now
rather than end up in debt.

On a purely financial note, remember that the Social Services department of
the local council will assist you as well.
Thankyou! I hadn't actually thought of contacting SS to ask for help but
that might be something to look into. It's a struggle for me to cope
with him at times due to my own illnesses (also MH along with some
physical disability) so any extra support I could get would be great :)
 
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anthonyberet

Sarah said:
I need some advice regarding my benefit entitlements due to a possible
change in circumstance please.

I am currently in receipt of IS (inc all disability premiums) and DLA
(HR care & LR mobility) and have one dependant child living at home. I
also receive full HB/CT benefits.

For the past week or so my elder son (19) has been staying with me,
having previously been living in hostel accomodation and in receipt of
JSA in a different part of the country, but it is becoming apparent that
he is suffering MH problems which is making it difficult for him to find
work and also cope with living on his own.

If I were to allow him to stay on a more permanent basis until he can
get back on his feet how would this affect my benefits?
It wouldn't affect your HB or CTB if he continued to get JSA(income
based), or IS, until he turned 25, when the minimum non-dependent
deductions would apply. I can't say what those deduction would be, so
far in the future, but the current figures are here:
http://www.hbinfo.org/menu5/rates04/nondeps04.shtml

I will leave it to others to comment on benefits he might be entitled
to, but I expect IS would be the most likely, from what you say.
Make sure he doesn't sign off JSA unless he has medical support for an
IS claim, as it is possible to fall inbetween those benefits, as not
actively seeking work but not ill enough to qualify for IS.

If he doesn't get JSA or IS, the minimum non-dep deductions will apply
to your HB and CTB. If he earns anything, the deductions will go up, see
the link I posted.
 
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Sarah

anthonyberet said:
I will leave it to others to comment on benefits he might be entitled
to, but I expect IS would be the most likely, from what you say.
Make sure he doesn't sign off JSA unless he has medical support for an
IS claim, as it is possible to fall inbetween those benefits, as not
actively seeking work but not ill enough to qualify for IS.
Thankyou for the info and links :)

I'm not entirely sure what's happening with his current claim as it's
not been easy getting any reliable information out of him due to his
confused state, but from what I can gather, he must have been signing on
for JSA and claiming some sort of HB to pay for the hostel he was
staying at.



Ok, I've just found his paperwork from the jobcentre and it looks like
he should have signed on last Monday (7th Feb) but having just asked him
about his previous signing days he said he hasn't signed on at all.
There are two dates written on the back of this JSA booklet - 10/01/05
for his initial appt to sign all the paperwork, then to sign on from
24/01/05 and every second week thereafter.

I'm wondering if I should give them a call tomorrow, but not sure they
would give me any information as I'm not the claimant, as this is all
rather confusing as to why it appears he has a fresh claim from last
month (he should have been signing on since mid-October), and if so,
what was he living on prior to that as he definitely hasn't been working.
 
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Paul Bolton

Sarah said:
I need some advice regarding my benefit entitlements due to a possible
change in circumstance please.

I am currently in receipt of IS (inc all disability premiums) and DLA (HR
care & LR mobility) and have one dependant child living at home. I also
receive full HB/CT benefits.

For the past week or so my elder son (19) has been staying with me, having
previously been living in hostel accomodation and in receipt of JSA in a
different part of the country, but it is becoming apparent that he is
suffering MH problems which is making it difficult for him to find work
and also cope with living on his own.

If I were to allow him to stay on a more permanent basis until he can get
back on his feet how would this affect my benefits?
You might lose the severe disability premium if you are currently getting
it. See for instance

http://www.disabilityalliance.org/is4.htm#Severe Disability Premium

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/benefits/income_support.htm
(he won't be entitled to IB as he hasn't worked regularly since leaving
school)
Actually given his age this isn't necessarily so. See

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/advisers/claimforms/iby1_print.pdf

As I generally remark in my posts it's better if you consult an advice
agency like CAB or Welfare Rights rather than just relying on information
from the Internet.
 
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Kamina

Sarah said:
I need some advice regarding my benefit entitlements due to a possible
change in circumstance please.

I am currently in receipt of IS (inc all disability premiums) and DLA
(HR care & LR mobility) and have one dependant child living at home. I
also receive full HB/CT benefits.

For the past week or so my elder son (19) has been staying with me,
having previously been living in hostel accomodation and in receipt of
JSA in a different part of the country, but it is becoming apparent that
he is suffering MH problems which is making it difficult for him to find
work and also cope with living on his own.

If I were to allow him to stay on a more permanent basis until he can
get back on his feet how would this affect my benefits?

Also, as he is an adult now I know I can't claim anything for him, but
would he be entitled to claim any benefits in his own right and how
would that work with me already being in receipt of benefits? It would
be a struggle for me to provide for him on a long term basis, especially
if I lose any benefit by him staying here.

And finally, assuming I can get him to seek medical help (he is in
denial he is ill but it is clearly obvious he isn't well) what other
help would be available to him (he won't be entitled to IB as he hasn't
worked regularly since leaving school) and again, how would that affect
any of my benefit entitlement.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received, thanks.
As you are in receipt of DLA ( care) there will be no "non dependant"
deductions from your HB and CTB if your son lives in your home
regardless of his income. You might need to point out to your Council
that you have DLA (care) as their system might only show that you are
in receipt of Income Support.
 
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anthonyberet

Sarah said:
Thankyou for the info and links :)

I'm not entirely sure what's happening with his current claim as it's
not been easy getting any reliable information out of him due to his
confused state, but from what I can gather, he must have been signing on
for JSA and claiming some sort of HB to pay for the hostel he was
staying at.



Ok, I've just found his paperwork from the jobcentre and it looks like
he should have signed on last Monday (7th Feb) but having just asked him
about his previous signing days he said he hasn't signed on at all.
There are two dates written on the back of this JSA booklet - 10/01/05
for his initial appt to sign all the paperwork, then to sign on from
24/01/05 and every second week thereafter.

I'm wondering if I should give them a call tomorrow, but not sure they
would give me any information as I'm not the claimant, as this is all
rather confusing as to why it appears he has a fresh claim from last
month (he should have been signing on since mid-October), and if so,
what was he living on prior to that as he definitely hasn't been working.
Yeah - give them a bell and try to arrange a new appointment for him.
You might get a helpful person, or you might get an unhelpful lump, but
it is all you can do.
Also, you need to send him along as well - he should try going on the
24th, but also should go withing one week of 10/2/05 (eekk - that is today).
Maybe he seems to have a new claim because he has changed jobcentres?
(actually, he can sign on at any jobcentre without living in any
catchment area or anything like that).
 
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anthonyberet

Kamina said:
As you are in receipt of DLA ( care) there will be no "non dependant"
deductions from your HB and CTB if your son lives in your home
regardless of his income. You might need to point out to your Council
that you have DLA (care) as their system might only show that you are
in receipt of Income Support.
Oh I didn't spot that she is geting DLA care - I second your comment
about non-dependent deductions from HB/CTB and retract my own.
 

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