Archiving Quicken files-- any purpose


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slb

Jim said:
Not really. In may last job, I was located in Arizona. My data was in
California, Colorado, North Carolina, and New York. Some applications
were local to my machine. Others were also on the remote servers.
Whether it is the data or the applications are being made available from
remote computers makes little difference. All of the servers work
together to make data and application computing transparently mobile.

From Wikipedia....
Cloud computing is Internet-based computing, whereby shared resources,
software, and information are provided to computers and other devices
on demand, like the electricity grid.

The question asked was "What are some advantages to clouds?" The
advantages include the things that I mentioned, including the two points
that dealt specifically with data storage. Instantaneous backups at
multiple locations, and data available virtually anywhere.
This sounds more like a Virtual Private Network. If all the data is on
physical storage devices owned by the company running over the Internet as
VPN tunnels -- it's not a "cloud" (OK call it an internal cloud). I was
doing this 10 years ago, before "cloud" became the latest, greatest
buzzword.

My definition of "cloud" storage involves giving up control of your data to
a third party Internet provided (with or without a VPN). You may not even
know what country hosts your data. That's why my original comments apply.
You can have all the contractual legalease you want, but if the company
sells out or the country wants to snoop, you actually have no recourse and
may not even be able to retrieve YOUR data.

Your reference to the electricity grid highlights the shared/who really owns
question. Who really owns and runs the Internet? That's the rub.

My couple of pennies worth......

Regards,
sb
 
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John Carter

Not really. In may last job, I was located in Arizona. My data was
in California, Colorado, North Carolina, and New York. Some
applications were local to my machine. Others were also on the
remote servers. Whether it is the data or the applications are
being made available from remote computers makes little
difference. All of the servers work together to make data and
application computing transparently mobile.

From Wikipedia....
Cloud computing is Internet-based computing, whereby shared
resources, software, and information are provided to computers
and other devices on demand, like the electricity grid.

The question asked was "What are some advantages to clouds?"

No ghe question asked was " Archiving Quicken files-- any purpose",
and like so many posts, the question gets lost in massive discussions
of OFF-TOPIC subjects. Take the cloud vs distributed computing to a
group that is interested. This is about QUICKEN.
 
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John Pollard

John said:
No ghe question asked was " Archiving Quicken files-- any purpose",
and like so many posts, the question gets lost in massive discussions
of OFF-TOPIC subjects. Take the cloud vs distributed computing to a
group that is interested. This is about QUICKEN.
So it was ok to post an off-topic comment when you wanted to say something
about it ("In my mind, the 'cloud' is still a newfound buzzword ..."); but
not ok when someone else does?
 
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Jim H

John said:
No ghe question asked was " Archiving Quicken files-- any purpose",
and like so many posts, the question gets lost in massive discussions
of OFF-TOPIC subjects. Take the cloud vs distributed computing to a
group that is interested. This is about QUICKEN.
If someone dies and leaves you in charge, I'll either leave Usenet, or
stay and listen to your orders. Until then, they are like so much piss
in the wind.
 
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Ray

This sounds more like a Virtual Private Network. If all the data is on
physical storage devices owned by the company running over the Internet as
VPN tunnels -- it's not a "cloud" (OK call it an internal cloud). I was
doing this 10 years ago, before "cloud" became the latest, greatest
buzzword.

My definition of "cloud" storage involves giving up control of your data to
a third party Internet provided (with or without a VPN). You may not even
know what country hosts your data. That's why my original comments apply.
You can have all the contractual legalease you want, but if the company
sells out or the country wants to snoop, you actually have no recourse and
may not even be able to retrieve YOUR data.

Your reference to the electricity grid highlights the shared/who really owns
question. Who really owns and runs the Internet? That's the rub.

My couple of pennies worth......

Regards,
sb
and this is why I don't do 'cloud' in any way shape or form... even a company
like Intuit comes up with this stuff.. as seen in other recent postings on
here.. why would anyone use a 'cloud' format .. just makes no sense
http://quicken.intuit.com/support/articles/quicken-online/getting-started/7907.html
 
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Quicken File Sizes

First and foremost - R. C. White, great post - well said! I also have been using Quicken since the early 90s' No disk space or performance issues until recently - with all the attachments I am placing in the data file (statements, receipts, etc) my data file has now grown to 2GB+. I do regular online backup and the large file size take resources and time to backup. Also, I have a concern that such a large file is more susceptible to becoming corrupted. I was considering archiving data to try and address these issues and concerns and would welcome any comments.
 
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Regarding why to or to not skip archiving, this might be relevant: Today I was trying to document what payments I had made to my HOA . The register I am using goes back to 2011, so I figured, OK I’ll just bring up the Reports, which will list all payments. 2017 looked more or less OK, but 2016 and 2015 were missing whole categories!! I thought, oh I only kept categories relevant to tax purposes?? But then I scrolled back on the current Register, and found to my horror that MOST of the transactions are missing from at least 2016 and 2015. Fortunately I have printed out the Reports every year (since way back before the year 2000), so I have printouts of each years Report. I think last year (2018) may be complete. I am using Quicken Deluxe 20l5. There are a lot of complaints online re Quicken dropping data.
 

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