Can't get Haliax Online Banking website


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sarah

Mutley said:
Hi there,

Is anyone else having problems with the Halifax Online Banking tonight?
https://www.halifax-online.co.uk/_mem_bin/formslogin.asp

Thanks...

Sorry, our service is currently unavailable
We are committed to improving our service. To allow us to make these
improvements, our service is temporarily unavailable. We apologise for
any inconvenience this may cause.
If you require any account information urgently, please call us on the
numbers below.
 
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Gus

Have not tried it tonight but I definately would not click on the
clickable link just in case its a con.
had the same thought so used my bookmark, it is down.
 
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Eric Jones

Mutley said:
It bloody well isnt you prat.

I may be a prat but I still won't use YOUR link to go to the Halifax
site.I must admit if you were scamming or phising its a bloody good way of
doing it!
 
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Mutley

Eric Jones said:
site.I must admit if you were scamming or phising its a bloody good way of
doing it!
Well, thats the URL I allways use to log on to my Halifax Bank Accout.

Dosnt matter now, I phoned them up on the 08457 number.
They have and they say they are upgrading the Online Banking systems and
should be back up by 6am on Friday.
 
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Fred Bloggs

Mutley said:
It bloody well isnt you prat.
The point is you can't tell, and it's safer to be paranoid and type
the URL yourself from memory, or use your own bookmark/homepage.
No-one's calling you a criminal - calm down!
 
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pete devlin

Fred said:
The point is you can't tell, and it's safer to be paranoid and type the
URL yourself from memory, or use your own bookmark/homepage.
You CAN tell. If it's not posted in HTML then the link goes where it
says it does. Even if it is posted in HTML, my newsreader tells me the
true destination. Suspicion is good, paranoia is bad, mmmkay?
 
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Filthy Rich

Sorry, our service is currently unavailable
We are committed to improving our service. To allow us to make these
improvements, our service is temporarily unavailable. We apologise for
any inconvenience this may cause.
If you require any account information urgently, please call us on the
numbers below.

It's because they sent this email out today to all their customers and
they've been swamped......

Dear customer
We notice that you haven't used our online service recently.

If you're having trouble getting back online, you can reset all your
security details by clicking on the 'forgotten your sign-in details?'
link on the sign in page.

Just in case you've forgotten your Username, here's a quick reminder –
you'll need this whenever you use the service:

Your unique Username is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You can then enjoy a full range of services such as:-

* Check your balances - savings, bank accounts and credit cards
* Pay your household and credit card bills or transfer money between
accounts
* Arrange and amend standing orders
* Order holiday money and much more...

Win some cash!

As a valued online customer, we also want to make sure you're aware of
the great prize draws we're running at the moment (terms and
conditions apply). To view the details just enter
Halifax.co.uk/onlinedraws into your browser.

There are two ways to win £250 cash. First, simply sign in to view
your account - we will be drawing 10 lucky people every month for the
rest of the year. There's no entry form to complete - you'll
automatically qualify every month that you sign in! It couldn't be
simpler!

Secondly, we're repeating our online Bill Payment draw. Can you think
of an easier way to pay your bills than online? We can't! Just pay
three bills online between 1st September and 31st December 2004 and
again you'll automatically qualify for a chance to win 1 of 40 £250
prizes.

Your money is safe
If a customer of our online service is a victim of fraud we guarantee
that they won't lose any money on their Halifax account and will
always be reimbursed in full.'

Best regards

Halifax Online service


Filthy Rich
Music House
 
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Graham Murray

Filthy Rich said:
It's because they sent this email out today to all their customers and
they've been swamped......
[email message snipped]

Is sending out an email like that really a good idea with phishing
being so rife at the moment?
 
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Fred Bloggs

pete devlin said:
You CAN tell. If it's not posted in HTML then the link goes where it
says it does.
Yes, but where does it say it goes? Is the US White House address
www.whitehouse.org or www.whitehouse.gov, for instance? Being able to
read the URL doesn't tell you the answer. There's nothing to stop
someone dodgy registering a URL similar to that of major banks etc.
Even if it is posted in HTML, my newsreader tells me the
true destination.
If it's not plain text but is alterable in any way then you're back to
trusting your browser or whatever, and there are various tricks to
fool them. I've forgotten the details, but it's something like:

[email protected]_address.com.
Suspicion is good, paranoia is bad, mmmkay?
Paranoia is also good sometimes.
 
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Jim Ley

If it's not plain text but is alterable in any way then you're back to
trusting your browser or whatever, and there are various tricks to
fool them. I've forgotten the details, but it's something like:

[email protected]_address.com.
This no-longer works, the ability to put http authentication
information in the url is disabled in almost all the major UA's, and
certainly IE.

Jim.
 
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pete devlin

Fred Bloggs said:
Yes, but where does it say it goes? Is the US White House address
www.whitehouse.org or www.whitehouse.gov, for instance? Being able to
read the URL doesn't tell you the answer. There's nothing to stop
someone dodgy registering a URL similar to that of major banks etc.
This is true. In this case, however, it was obviously the correct site.
If, as someone has already mentioned, the alternative is to type it in
from memory, they would know that it was the correct address. The issue
was that the link might direct to somewhere completely different. Not
possible in a plain text format.
If it's not plain text but is alterable in any way then you're back to
trusting your browser or whatever, and there are various tricks to fool
them. I've forgotten the details, but it's something like:

[email protected]_address.com.
Updates have stopped this happening IIRC. Though even with a holey
browser that will allow that kind of URL, I would see exactly that URL
at the bottom of my newsreader as I hovered over the link. I don't know
if OE does this as I never use it. Only a buffoon would click such a
munged URL.
Paranoia is also good sometimes.
Not when it prevails over common sense.
 
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Filthy Rich

Filthy Rich said:
It's because they sent this email out today to all their customers and
they've been swamped......
[email message snipped]

Is sending out an email like that really a good idea with phishing
being so rife at the moment?

No, you are right. It was pretty irresponsible really....


Filthy Rich
Music House
 
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Fred Bloggs

pete devlin said:
In message <[email protected]>, Fred Bloggs


Updates have stopped this happening IIRC. Though even with a holey
browser that will allow that kind of URL, I would see exactly that URL
at the bottom of my newsreader as I hovered over the link. I don't know
if OE does this as I never use it. Only a buffoon would click such a
munged URL.
There are many, many buffoons out there, and for them the simplest,
safest advice is don't click on URLs posted by people you don't know!
Not when it prevails over common sense.
I don't agree that not clicking on URLs posted by people I don't
know/trust is an example of paranoia prevailing over common sense
though!
 
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pete devlin

Fred said:
There are many, many buffoons out there, and for them the simplest,
safest advice is don't click on URLs posted by people you don't know!
Kind of defeats the object of coming to Usenet for help if you're not
prepared to follow the links that people provide to help you out! There
is more than an element of truth in what you say though. Unfortunately a
blanket "no click" policy will never work; it's like switching the lecky
off permanently to stop the possibility of electric shock. Common sense
has to be applied somewhere.
I don't agree that not clicking on URLs posted by people I don't
know/trust is an example of paranoia prevailing over common sense
though!
So you personally know the author of every hyperlink you have ever
followed? Come on, you're just being stubborn and daft now. Dodgy links
stick out like racing dog's bollox and if you can't see that then I fear
you must be at the wrong end of the food chain.
 
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Dave J

Kind of defeats the object of coming to Usenet for help if you're not
prepared to follow the links that people provide to help you out! There
is more than an element of truth in what you say though. Unfortunately a
blanket "no click" policy will never work; it's like switching the lecky
off permanently to stop the possibility of electric shock. Common sense
has to be applied somewhere.
Are there any current html based exploits that affect Opera?

People who use IE seem to have an attitude to web pages that I would
reserve for running an unknown downloaded program.

I've never been able to take it as real, but I guess if you choose to
use a browser that seems to have been designed as a 'virtual universe'
for the evolution of 'virtual organisms' (aka worms/viruses) then
you'd have to be wary. A sign of residual intelligence I suppose.
 

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