Customers on JC scheme treated like cattle


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scoff12

 From theManchester Evening News - showing conditions that customers are
treated in by the provider that takes over from Instant Muscle, a
recently bankrupted private sector provider to Jobcentre Plus.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1042106_jobseekers_trea...

Mike
I did a course with A4e. The jobcentre told me 'they are one of the
better ones'. Make of that what you will. Actually I got on very well
with the tutor which helps on my report back to the jobcentre she said
it 'was a pleasure to have me on the course'.
However they had a high turnover of tutors, not much indivdual
attention.
I don't think I got much out of the training but I enjoyed having a
structered day. To get there by nine I had to get at at six and catch
half past six train which I actually enjoyed.
On paper my time with them was a success because I never actuallly
signer back on benefit again at that time.
Whether that would have happended anyway is a moot point. Maynot
acutually.
 
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Niteawk

Mike said:
From theManchester Evening News - showing conditions that customers are
treated in by the provider that takes over from Instant Muscle, a recently
bankrupted private sector provider to Jobcentre Plus.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1042106_jobseekers_treated_like_cattle

Mike



"One man has contacted his local MP for Altrincham and Sale West, Graham
Brady, who has agreed to meet with him about the problem".

At least one of them has some idea what to do, they also mention health and
safety but I dont think course providers come under the same umbrella as
employers. Technically the people who are ordered to attend are not
employees so the health and safety at work act is of no use to them.
That leaves the human rights act, Learning and Training. Under British
anti-discrimination legislation, you also have the right not to be
discriminated against when you are at school, college, university or any
other place of learning or training. On that basis I personally would not
attend.
 
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Mogga

other place of learning or training. On that basis I personally would not
attend.

Wanna start a training scheme company? £194 a week for each cattle you
"train"
Fantabulous.
 
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Mike

Mogga said:
Wanna start a training scheme company? £194 a week for each cattle you
"train"
Fantabulous.
I'm looking for 6 job seekers to come and train in my dining room. I
can easily network 6 cheap PCs together on my dining room table with
access to the internet and telephone and I can teach them basic IT. A
chair and PC apiece, 1 toilet between 6 is also a pretty decent ratio.
They can smoke on my patio and I'm on 2 major bus routes.

I also have training facilities for them to learn other vital skills
such as cleaning, gardening, decorating, car valeting, cooking and of
course making the perfect cup of tea. I'm also running an intensive
week long course in stroking the cat for £250 per trainee, if it proves
popular I'll get a couple more cats!

I bet they'd leave happier and better equipped to find a job than with
A4e.

Mike
 
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mogga

I'm looking for 6 job seekers to come and train in my dining room. I
can easily network 6 cheap PCs together on my dining room table with
access to the internet and telephone and I can teach them basic IT. A
chair and PC apiece, 1 toilet between 6 is also a pretty decent ratio.
They can smoke on my patio and I'm on 2 major bus routes.

I also have training facilities for them to learn other vital skills
such as cleaning, gardening, decorating, car valeting, cooking and of
course making the perfect cup of tea. I'm also running an intensive
week long course in stroking the cat for £250 per trainee, if it proves
popular I'll get a couple more cats!

I bet they'd leave happier and better equipped to find a job than with
A4e.

Mike


Your stroking the cat course sounds interesting. I could supply a
couple of cats for a very reasonable fee.
 
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Mike

mogga said:
Your stroking the cat course sounds interesting. I could supply a
couple of cats for a very reasonable fee.
Has anyone got any dogs? Dog walking sounds like a good job if you like
fresh air and dogs, I could offer training for that as well.

Mike
 
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mart2306

I'm looking for 6 job seekers to come and train in my dining room.  I
can easily network 6 cheap PCs together on my dining room table with
access to the internet and telephone and I can teach them basic IT.  A
chair and PC apiece, 1 toilet between 6 is also a pretty decent ratio.
They can smoke on my patio and I'm on 2 major bus routes.

I also have training facilities for them to learn other vital skills
such as cleaning, gardening, decorating, car valeting, cooking and of
course making the perfect cup of tea.  I'm also running an intensive
week long course in stroking the cat for £250 per trainee, if it proves
popular I'll get a couple more cats!

I bet they'd leave happier and better equipped to find a job than with
A4e.

Mike
Sure, just put in for the tenders when they are advertised.
Though if the tender stipulates a size larger than 6, might be
problems if you can't fit them in.

So long as you meet the requirements of the tender including the
outcomes, and pass any pre-selection weeding, you'd be in with at
least 1 chance in 3.

Martin <><
 
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mart2306

Your stroking the cat course sounds interesting. I could supply a
couple of cats for a very reasonable fee.

--http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

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Very good for depressed people. 8 hours of stroking a cat is
beneficial. Maybe not so much to the depressed person but you don't
end up with a depressed cat!

Martin <><
 
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Niteawk

Mike said:
Has anyone got any dogs? Dog walking sounds like a good job if you like
fresh air and dogs, I could offer training for that as well.

Why dogs, there are plenty of idle twits employed by the DWP in serious need
of some excercise.
 
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Mogga

Sure, just put in for the tenders when they are advertised.
Though if the tender stipulates a size larger than 6, might be
problems if you can't fit them in.

So long as you meet the requirements of the tender including the
outcomes, and pass any pre-selection weeding, you'd be in with at
least 1 chance in 3.

Martin <><

Where do they advertise them? I'd love to run courses for the
unemployed. :)
 
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Mogga

Has anyone got any dogs? Dog walking sounds like a good job if you like
fresh air and dogs, I could offer training for that as well.

Mike

I was toying with the idea of advertising my dog walking services
recently *just until that snow.
You could do a certificate in it. Bound to be some H&S tedium about
picking up and disposing correctly of dogmess.
 
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mart2306

Where do they advertise them? I'd love to run courses for the
unemployed. :)
--http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for deliveryhttp://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free
Supplement to the European Union Journal(sorry, don't have URL on home
system but can post tomorrow), some departmental websites and some of
the trade press. Occasionally in national or local press too.

Martin <><
 
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mart2306

Supplement to the European Union Journal(sorry, don't have URL on home
system but can post tomorrow), some departmental websites and some of
the trade press. Occasionally in national or local press too.

Martin  <><- Hide quoted text -

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Here's the url for the Journal.
http://ted.europa.eu/

I search by place of delivery.

Martin <><
 
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Mike

Mogga said:
I was toying with the idea of advertising my dog walking services
recently *just until that snow.
You could do a certificate in it. Bound to be some H&S tedium about
picking up and disposing correctly of dogmess.
Well that seems quite reasonable to me TBH, especially after having to
clean the damn stuff off my son's shoes yesterday after he trod in a
fresh on near the kids play area.

Mike
 
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Mike

Niteawk said:
Why dogs, there are plenty of idle twits employed by the DWP in serious
need of some excercise.
Shows what you know - making up stats and shovelling crap all day is
very good exercise.

Mike
 
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mart2306

Shows what you know - making up stats and shovelling crap all day is
very good exercise.

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And just think of the health benefits that could be promoted with both
the exercise (for human and dog) plus the added health aspect of
someone clearing up the dog shit before others can step in it.

Martin <><
 
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Niteawk

Mike said:
Shows what you know - making up stats and shovelling crap all day is very
good exercise.
Oh c'mon, thats the cornerstone of parliament you are knocking, this country
is founded on bullshit.
You muppets are forever trying to sell me crap like how much better off I
would be working for minimum wage, with their better off in work
calculations.Yeah right, i'm an idiot, sign me up for more of this crap.
 
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Mogga

Well that seems quite reasonable to me TBH, especially after having to
clean the damn stuff off my son's shoes yesterday after he trod in a
fresh on near the kids play area.

Mike
It is utterly gross stuff - agreed on that one. But why some dog
owners think it's ok to leave it I don't know.

Dog Walker Training 101

1. business basics
2. how to walk a dog
3. dog first aid
4. dog after care
5. dealing with customers
6. cleaning up H&S
7. Promotion and marketing
 

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