DLA and Hospital Stays


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nonanon

Married couple. One claims DLA care component higher rate and mobility
lower rate. Other claims carer's allowance and Incapacity benefit. They
have a joint claim for housing benefit.

The DLA claimant is going into hospital fro six months.

This means that DLA care component (and carer's allowance?) will stop.


What should they do now? How do they need to contact; what kind of
benefits adjustments can they expect?
 
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Robbie

nonanon said:
Married couple. One claims DLA care component higher rate and mobility
lower rate. Other claims carer's allowance and Incapacity benefit. They
have a joint claim for housing benefit.

The DLA claimant is going into hospital fro six months.

This means that DLA care component (and carer's allowance?) will stop.


What should they do now? How do they need to contact; what kind of
benefits adjustments can they expect?
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/HealthAndSupport/Hospitals/DG_4000474

It also depends whether the hospital is NHS or private.
 
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nonanon

DG_4000474

It also depends whether the hospital is NHS or private.
Thank you for the link!

They are an NHS patient, detained under section, in a private hospital.

So, that link tells me that a considerable chunk of our benefits income
is going to disappear, but does not tell me how I am going to replace it.
 
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mart2306

Thank you for the link!

They are an NHS patient, detained under section, in a private hospital.

So, that link tells me that a considerable chunk of our benefits income
is going to disappear, but does not tell me how I am going to replace it.- Hide quoted text -

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The benefit income will disappear however there will be fewer costs
associated with the patient themselves.
Housing benefit and the carer's incapacity benefit will stay - what
else is needed? They have no costs in looking after patient, though of
course may be costs associated in visiting patient.
Possibly some agency work could be done? Experienced carers tend to be
able to get agency care work because they already know what can be
done to help someone else.
Many carers who are partners of the person they care for will work or
be on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week - agency care work tends to be
a hell of a lot less demanding than that.

Martin <><
 
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nonanon

The benefit income will disappear however there will be fewer costs
associated with the patient themselves. Housing benefit and the carer's
incapacity benefit will stay
Are you sure about housing benefit?
- what else is needed?
Most bills do not decrease by half when one half of a couple is away for
six months.

The money is used:

1) To pay rent. Full rent still needs to be paid.
2) To pay c tax - not sure what happens here
3) To pay bills - most bills will be almost the same (electricity and gas
bill will be *higher* because we will not qualify for social tariff)
4) transport to an out of county hospital once a week, for 6 months, is a
considerable amount to people on benefit especially if they've had a
chunk of that benefit taken away
5) stuff to support living in hospital
They have no costs
in looking after patient,
Or they have established costs which cannot be put on hold for six months
while patient is away.
though of course may be costs associated in
visiting patient.
Carer won't be able to use carer's bus pass, thus all transport costs are
increased.
Possibly some agency work could be done? Experienced
carers tend to be able to get agency care work because they already know
what can be done to help someone else.
I very seriously doubt that. Caring as work is completely different to
the role of a carer.

I'd welcome links to agencies who take on carers as paid care workers.
Many carers who are partners of the person they care for will work or be
on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week - agency care work tends to be a
hell of a lot less demanding than that.
Yes.
 
M

mart2306

Are you sure about housing benefit?


Most bills do not decrease by half when one half of a couple is away for
six months.

The money is used:

1) To pay rent.  Full rent still needs to be paid.
2) To pay c tax - not sure what happens here
3) To pay bills - most bills will be almost the same (electricity and gas
bill will be *higher* because we will not qualify for social tariff)
4) transport to an out of county hospital once a week, for 6 months, is a
considerable amount to people on benefit especially if they've had a
chunk of that benefit taken away
5) stuff to support living in hospital


Or they have established costs which cannot be put on hold for six months
while patient is away.


Carer won't be able to use carer's bus pass, thus all transport costs are
increased.


I very seriously doubt that.  Caring as work is completely different to
the role of a carer.

I'd welcome links to agencies who take on carers as paid care workers.


Yes.- Hide quoted text -

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It is usually the case that one person on their own lives a bit
cheaper than two together.
Housing benefit based on incapacity benefit as sole income, can't see
how it wouldn't be paid. Check pout your local council's benefits
calculator, many councils have them on their website to see level of
housing benefit and council tax benefit payable.
Welfare rights or citizens advice may know of what else you can claim
but don't get your hopes up.

Bills for many people will tend to be lower - less washing machine
loads, less food, less water used, often less electricity used.
Heating may be used less, depending on the needs of the individual. My
wife is away for a few days, I put the heating up. I go into hospital,
she switches the heating off for a few days.

Transport can be a problem, haven't heard of any particular help
available for that though its possible a charitable trust or two may
be able to help.
Not an uncommon problem, people being a distance away and relatives
needing to travel to them. Some are lucky enough to get into a local
place, one of the ladies I used to work with got help from a
charitable trust to travel to see her husband (Selly Oak Birmingham
when she lived in Lancashire - long way out of county).

I'm suprised you think carers work is different to the role of a
carer. I've done both, carer work for an agency before I became
disabled and carer for my wife these days (with her as my carer).
Bathing, helping in and out of bed, and helping with dressing/
undressing and toilet help are the common duties I've had to do for
others alongside occasional trips out as a carer - toilet help
usually.
Then again, some people do need less or more help from carers than
others.

Martin <><
 
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Robbie

It is usually the case that one person on their own lives a bit
cheaper than two together.
Housing benefit based on incapacity benefit as sole income, can't see
how it wouldn't be paid. Check pout your local council's benefits
calculator, many councils have them on their website to see level of
housing benefit and council tax benefit payable.
Welfare rights or citizens advice may know of what else you can claim
but don't get your hopes up.

Bills for many people will tend to be lower - less washing machine
loads, less food, less water used, often less electricity used.
Heating may be used less, depending on the needs of the individual. My
wife is away for a few days, I put the heating up. I go into hospital,
she switches the heating off for a few days.

Transport can be a problem, haven't heard of any particular help
available for that though its possible a charitable trust or two may
be able to help.
Not an uncommon problem, people being a distance away and relatives
needing to travel to them. Some are lucky enough to get into a local
place, one of the ladies I used to work with got help from a
charitable trust to travel to see her husband (Selly Oak Birmingham
when she lived in Lancashire - long way out of county).

I'm suprised you think carers work is different to the role of a
carer. I've done both, carer work for an agency before I became
disabled and carer for my wife these days (with her as my carer).
Bathing, helping in and out of bed, and helping with dressing/
undressing and toilet help are the common duties I've had to do for
others alongside occasional trips out as a carer - toilet help
usually.
Then again, some people do need less or more help from carers than
others.

Martin <><
Perhaps the poster doesn't want to do care work for someone else when
they can have what amounts to a break from being a full time carer for a
while. Caring for someone on a long term basis is an exhausting thing to
do, both mentally and physically. A respite from caring can be very
beneficial to the carer. I'm not sure that walking in to an agency the
day after their other half / relative is taken to hospital is perhaps
what the poster has in mind to solve what would be a short to medium
term financial problem.

I suggest the OP visit the CAB or a welfare rights organisation to
discuss what financial help may be available while the person being
cared for is in hospital.
 
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mart2306

Perhaps the poster doesn't want to do care work for someone else when
they can have what amounts to a break from being a full time carer for a
while. Caring for someone on a long term basis is an exhausting thing to
do, both mentally and physically. A respite from caring can be very
beneficial to the carer. I'm not sure that walking in to an agency the
day after their other half / relative is taken to hospital is perhaps
what the poster has in mind to solve what would be a short to medium
term financial problem.

I suggest the OP visit the CAB or a welfare rights organisation to
discuss what financial help may be available while the person being
cared for is in hospital.
Was thinking more in terms of resolving income problems than
exhaustion problems.
Still an option for later.

Martin <><
 

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