DLA


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Andrea

My son age 8 had high rate personal care for 3 yrs. I thought the renewal
would renew. After several months I recieved a letter from Income support
informing me that I no longer got disability premiums for my son. So I
called DLA who told me they couldn't talk about the decision over the phone
until I had recieved the decision letter. They told me they had sent it in
February, but I had not recieved it.They gave me some "lost in the post
lecture", and agreed to send me another letter. I only recieved the decision
letter 1 month ago! They stopped all Petes DLA, my carers allowance and
stopped £70 a week from my income support! and also want me to work, I have
another child on high rate personal care and 3 able children.
I have sent of the appeal for to ask for a review. The reason pete got
turned down is this..

He has been diagnosed with autism, and ADHD, and ODD.The clinical social
worker sees him, as has the SHO for the child pschologist. Problem is the
diagnosis can't be offical till the main man sees him on a one off, after he
looks at the info collected by the other two during appointments. He is
seeing pete in July as his waiting list is huge.
My son soils himself and is 8 yrs old. At home he is destructive and is a
danger to himself and others. At school he was withdrawn, but had outbursts.
He spent many months soiling and sitting in it all day in class, and when I
confronted the school they said they had no idea. We got Pete to tell his
teacher, but then I ended up going into school to clean him up several times
a day.
The DLA forms went to the school, (even though I asked them to send them to
child and family), and the school refused to fill them out saying they
couldn't say anything till the offical diagnosis came through. We agreed
with the school for them to post them to child and family as they know
everything about pete, but they sent them back to DLA as good as blank.
I am appealing, and sent letters from doctors, social workers and family
support workers, and photocopied them.
I called DLA today and asked if I could have an explanation of the decision,
but they said they couldn't. The very nice lady (for a change) told me that
the letter in February had never been sent! She said I am on the record as
telling you this so use it in your appeal.
Several people at DLA told me they had sent it!

So they stopped all our benefits without me knowing why!
DIAL (who are helping me appeal) say that they can get all the money
re-instated (until a decision is made on the revision) based on this
information, as they have compromised my rights.

Thanks for getting this far! So what do you think?

Andrea.
 
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Robbie

From: "Andrea" andrea22_uk(nospam)@hotmail.com
Date: 25/05/04 19:22 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id: <K9Msc.11873$jL3.7005@pathologist.blueyonder.net>

My son age 8 had high rate personal care for 3 yrs. I thought the renewal
would renew. After several months I recieved a letter from Income support
informing me that I no longer got disability premiums for my son. So I
called DLA who told me they couldn't talk about the decision over the phone
until I had recieved the decision letter. They told me they had sent it in
February, but I had not recieved it.They gave me some "lost in the post
lecture", and agreed to send me another letter. I only recieved the decision
letter 1 month ago! They stopped all Petes DLA, my carers allowance and
stopped £70 a week from my income support! and also want me to work, I have
another child on high rate personal care and 3 able children.
I have sent of the appeal for to ask for a review. The reason pete got
turned down is this..

He has been diagnosed with autism, and ADHD, and ODD.The clinical social
worker sees him, as has the SHO for the child pschologist. Problem is the
diagnosis can't be offical till the main man sees him on a one off, after he
looks at the info collected by the other two during appointments. He is
seeing pete in July as his waiting list is huge.
My son soils himself and is 8 yrs old. At home he is destructive and is a
danger to himself and others. At school he was withdrawn, but had outbursts.
He spent many months soiling and sitting in it all day in class, and when I
confronted the school they said they had no idea. We got Pete to tell his
teacher, but then I ended up going into school to clean him up several times
a day.
The DLA forms went to the school, (even though I asked them to send them to
child and family), and the school refused to fill them out saying they
couldn't say anything till the offical diagnosis came through. We agreed
with the school for them to post them to child and family as they know
everything about pete, but they sent them back to DLA as good as blank.
I am appealing, and sent letters from doctors, social workers and family
support workers, and photocopied them.
I called DLA today and asked if I could have an explanation of the decision,
but they said they couldn't. The very nice lady (for a change) told me that
the letter in February had never been sent! She said I am on the record as
telling you this so use it in your appeal.
Several people at DLA told me they had sent it!

So they stopped all our benefits without me knowing why!
DIAL (who are helping me appeal) say that they can get all the money
re-instated (until a decision is made on the revision) based on this
information, as they have compromised my rights.

Thanks for getting this far! So what do you think?

Andrea.
A good starting point would be to discuss your case with your local DIAL
organisation. They will be able to provide you with face to face advice and
help you decide how best to proceed.

http://www.dialuk.info/

Click on the"Find A DIAL" link and you should be able to find an organisation
close to where you live. At the very least you'll be able to find a local
organisation that you can discuss matters with over the phone.

Robbie
 
S

smithy

Andrea said:
My son age 8 had high rate personal care for 3 yrs. I thought the renewal
would renew. After several months I recieved a letter from Income support
informing me that I no longer got disability premiums for my son. So I
called DLA who told me they couldn't talk about the decision over the phone
until I had recieved the decision letter. They told me they had sent it in
February, but I had not recieved it.They gave me some "lost in the post
lecture", and agreed to send me another letter. I only recieved the decision
letter 1 month ago! They stopped all Petes DLA, my carers allowance and
stopped £70 a week from my income support! and also want me to work, I have
another child on high rate personal care and 3 able children.
I have sent of the appeal for to ask for a review. The reason pete got
turned down is this..

He has been diagnosed with autism, and ADHD, and ODD.The clinical social
worker sees him, as has the SHO for the child pschologist. Problem is the
diagnosis can't be offical till the main man sees him on a one off, after he
looks at the info collected by the other two during appointments. He is
seeing pete in July as his waiting list is huge.
My son soils himself and is 8 yrs old. At home he is destructive and is a
danger to himself and others. At school he was withdrawn, but had outbursts.
He spent many months soiling and sitting in it all day in class, and when I
confronted the school they said they had no idea. We got Pete to tell his
teacher, but then I ended up going into school to clean him up several times
a day.
The DLA forms went to the school, (even though I asked them to send them to
child and family), and the school refused to fill them out saying they
couldn't say anything till the offical diagnosis came through. We agreed
with the school for them to post them to child and family as they know
everything about pete, but they sent them back to DLA as good as blank.
I am appealing, and sent letters from doctors, social workers and family
support workers, and photocopied them.
I called DLA today and asked if I could have an explanation of the decision,
but they said they couldn't. The very nice lady (for a change) told me that
the letter in February had never been sent! She said I am on the record as
telling you this so use it in your appeal.
Several people at DLA told me they had sent it!

So they stopped all our benefits without me knowing why!
DIAL (who are helping me appeal) say that they can get all the money
re-instated (until a decision is made on the revision) based on this
information, as they have compromised my rights.

Thanks for getting this far! So what do you think?

Andrea.


Ive just read this! If your son was medically examined by a Sema(medical
services) Doctor with regards to this
renewal claim then you are entitled to see the Doctors report.If your son
was not examined then there is no medical report to see.The decision makers
who work for
DWP have NO medical knowledge,they get their input
from the Disability Handbook(second edition) and compare notes.Your sons
School should never have been allowed to del with his DLA renewal claim as
Teachers
are notoriously thick when it comes to child care(ive been
there) and the only person able to fill out the form is you.
Do you have Paediatricians/Doctors whom agree with you regarding your sons
condition? Remember,the DLA
staff will not have his previous claim in front of them so you must fill it
in afresh with all the same input.A good tip
is to CONSTANTLY repeat his CARE needs.Decision
Makers need to have it drummed into them.Have you read guide HB5? On the
DWP page,read the Disability Handbook and see what the DM's see.From my
experience having the decision "looked at again" is better
than appeal as you can then appeal if your new evidence
does not help.By the way,if I understand you correctly
you say you have another child in receipt of DLA HRCC,
therefore the Jobcentre Plus cannot request you to attent a work focused
interview as you are still known as a Carer. Smithy
 
A

Andrea

Robbie said:
A good starting point would be to discuss your case with your local DIAL
organisation. They will be able to provide you with face to face advice and
help you decide how best to proceed.

http://www.dialuk.info/

Click on the"Find A DIAL" link and you should be able to find an organisation
close to where you live. At the very least you'll be able to find a local
organisation that you can discuss matters with over the phone.

Robbie
Hi Dial are helping me, I see them on Thursday.

Andrea.
 
A

Andrea

smithy wrote
services) Doctor with regards to this
renewal claim then you are entitled to see the Doctors report.
He wasn't.

If your son
was not examined then there is no medical report to see.The decision makers
who work for
DWP have NO medical knowledge,they get their input
from the Disability Handbook(second edition) and compare notes.Your sons
School should never have been allowed to del with his DLA renewal claim as
Teachers
are notoriously thick when it comes to child care(ive been
there) and the only person able to fill out the form is you.
Tell me about it, I took him out of school a while back, as they didn't give
a sh*t.
I wonder if this will help with the review? O rwill they hang on to "the
facts at the time" speech.
Do you have Paediatricians/Doctors whom agree with you regarding your sons
condition?
Yes I have sent letter specifically for them from his doctors, clinical
social worker, and family support worker. I sent it by registered signed for
delivery and took photocopies.


Remember,the DLA
staff will not have his previous claim in front of them so you must fill it
in afresh with all the same input.A good tip
is to CONSTANTLY repeat his CARE needs.Decision
Makers need to have it drummed into them.Have you read guide HB5? On the
DWP page,read the Disability Handbook and see what the DM's see.From my
experience having the decision "looked at again" is better
than appeal as you can then appeal if your new evidence
does not help.By the way,if I understand you correctly
you say you have another child in receipt of DLA HRCC,
therefore the Jobcentre Plus cannot request you to attent a work focused
interview as you are still known as a Carer. Smithy
Yes they can. My husband is the carer for the other child, so in their eyes
I can work, but I cannot.

Thanks Andrea.
 
R

Robbie

From: "Andrea" andrea22_uk(nospam)@hotmail.com
Date: 25/05/04 20:05 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id: <QNMsc.12027$674.9117@pathologist.blueyonder.net>



Hi Dial are helping me, I see them on Thursday.

Andrea.
Sorry Andrea, never read the last part of your original post. I see they are
already helping you.

All the best

Robbie
 
S

smithy

Andrea said:
smithy wrote
He wasn't.

If your son
Tell me about it, I took him out of school a while back, as they didn't give
a sh*t.
I wonder if this will help with the review? O rwill they hang on to "the
facts at the time" speech.


Yes I have sent letter specifically for them from his doctors, clinical
social worker, and family support worker. I sent it by registered signed for
delivery and took photocopies.


Remember,the DLA

Yes they can. My husband is the carer for the other child, so in their eyes
I can work, but I cannot.

Thanks Andrea.
I see the predicament,I did not know that your husband was a carer.
Andrea,are you in receipt of Income Support at the moment?
 
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Andrea

"smithy" wrote in messaget...
"Andrea" .. claim
I see the predicament,I did not know that your husband was a carer.
Andrea,are you in receipt of Income Support at the moment?
Yes we are as a couple. We also have 3 other children and my brother living
here.
Dial thinks because the DLA lied about sending the 1st copy of the decision
that I will get all benefits re-instated at least until the review/appeal is
done.

Andrea.
 
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smithy

Andrea said:
"smithy" wrote in messaget...

Yes we are as a couple. We also have 3 other children and my brother living
here.
Dial thinks because the DLA lied about sending the 1st copy of the decision
that I will get all benefits re-instated at least until the review/appeal is
done.

Andrea.
Andrea,good stuff. D.I.A.L are good,but not THAT good.as you are in receipt
of Income Support,PLEASE,
go and see a solicitor,it is free and the DWP will suddenly
want to deal with you prompt.You need a Female solicitor for a child case.If
you can get a letter stating when the decision to change your sons DLA was
made
then you can forget the original "not sent" letter as a
solicitor knows all too well the games that the DWP play.
There is a lot riding on this so you must get it right.I have
always doubted D.I.A.L and the C.A.B. Smithy
 
B

Bill

Andrea said:
"smithy" wrote in messaget...

Yes we are as a couple. We also have 3 other children and my brother living
here.
Dial thinks because the DLA lied about sending the 1st copy of the decision
that I will get all benefits re-instated at least until the review/appeal is
done.

Andrea.
Best not say on the newsgroup what Dial say to you - at this present time
they haven't really got involved with the case - between me and you they
shouldn't be building your hopes up at this early stage.

Bill
 

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