Employer Withheld for Two States on Same Income

Discussion in 'Tax' started by Bob Sandler, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. Bob Sandler

    Bob Sandler Guest

    My adult daughter, who lives in New York City, worked in New
    Jersey for part of 2003. All the work was done in the
    employer's corporate headquarters in NJ. She did not do any
    work in NY for this employer. However, the NJ employer
    withheld taxes for both NJ and NY on the same income. Her
    federal W-2 has two lines in boxes 15 - 17. One line shows
    NJ wages and tax withheld, and the other line shows NY wages
    and tax. The federal, NJ, and NY wages are all the same
    amount, and are equal to the total amount she earned. In
    other words, they did not split her wages between NJ and NY.
    They reported her total wages as the state wages for both
    states.

    Her W-2 form has two state Copy 2s, one with just the NJ
    information, and one with just the NY information. (They
    also withheld NYC tax, and this is shown on the federal
    copies B and C, and the NY copy 2.)

    Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If
    not, does it matter to my daughter? Should she just file the
    returns for both states (NY resident and NJ nonresident)
    using the amounts on the W-2 as they are?

    Bob Sandler
     
    Bob Sandler, Mar 1, 2004
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    Phil Marti Guest

    The employer was either very thoughtful or has a nexus in NY
    that requires it to comply with NY withholding requirements.

    Your daughter should prepare her returns in this order:

    1. Federal
    2. NJ (nonresident)
    3. NY, paying special attention to credit for tax paid to
    another state.

    Phil Marti
    Topeka, KS
     
    Phil Marti, Mar 2, 2004
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    Katie Jaques Guest

    No, the employer was not correct to withhold for both
    states, but since it did, she should go ahead and use the
    W-2's as they are to claim credit for the taxes withheld.
    They should have withheld only for NJ, and for NY if at all,
    only to the extent that the NY withholding would have been
    more than the NJ withholding.

    You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid
    to NJ, because the W-2 looks to NY as though she earned the
    income in NY. I would attach BOTH W-2's to the NY return
    and also attach a statement explaining the error. Not that
    NY will likely look at any of that when the return is
    processed, but when they ask the question (or deny the
    credit) you can just send them another copy of the same
    information. And you can have the satisfaction of saying to
    the DOR, you dummies, the information was on the return, why
    didn't you read it? <G>

    Katie in San Diego

    The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and
    does not constitute legal or professional advice.
     
    Katie Jaques, Mar 2, 2004
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  4. Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If
    I hate to take exception to your replies, but in this
    instance I think you are being overly cautious. First. I
    don't see any error in the employer withholding in both
    states, it happens all the time. In fact, if the employer
    has nexus in NY he has no choice. You are correct that the
    NY withholding should be net of the NJ tax, but we do not
    know that it is not.
    I also don't see any potential problem with the credit, nor
    do I see NY even questioning this. The wages are shown as
    NJ wages because that is where the services were performed,
    and as NY wages because of residency. This is also very
    common and happens all the time. I doubt it will create the
    least bit of a problem. In fact, everything in this
    situation seems to be in order and just as it should be.

    I fully agree with Phil's description of the sequence in
    which the returns should be prepared.
     
    Bruce E. Cobern, Mar 4, 2004
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  5. Bob Sandler

    Bob Sandler Guest

    You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid
    But the wages are not shown as NJ wages on the NY copy of
    the W-2. That copy shows only NY wages. It seems reasonable
    to think that that might make NY question the credit. So I
    like Katie Jaques' suggestion to attach both W-2s to the NY
    return. (Actually I think I'll just attach a copy of the
    federal W-2, which shows both states on one form.) That way
    the NJ wages will in fact be shown, so NY state will be able
    to clearly see NJ wages.
     
    Bob Sandler, Mar 5, 2004
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    Katie Jaques Guest

    Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If
    Of course I defer to your local knowledge. Depending on the
    OP's total income, the NJ tax may be less than the NY tax on
    the same income and it may have been appropriate for the
    employer to withhold the excess NY tax.

    Katie
     
    Katie Jaques, Mar 5, 2004
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    bradgilliatt

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    If ny and nj do not have reciprocity, and as mentioned, through nexus, the employer has to withhold in both states then your employer was just following the rules. Double taxation between states is very rare due to state tax credits and sourcing of income. Likely the tax liability in the lived in state will be minimal, if any. I would look into the possibility if the states w-4 equivelent allows for lower withholding (higher exemptions). Fyi - this would be similar to a fed exclusion if you state you do not have a liability at years end. Im not well versed in this subject, but its worth looking into for your daughter to free up cash flow and not to mention, refrain from giving escentially an interest free loan to the states treasury. To directly answer your question, she will square up at tax time.
     
    bradgilliatt, Aug 29, 2015
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    claudia delude

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    Hello,
    I am having the same issue and am not sure how to file. My W2 lists ND and CO (home state). There are seperate EIN numbers, the income is divided amongst both states, and the taxes paid is listed for each state. My question is this...on the state income tax forms, do I just enter the amount of earned income as what my employer has listed for each individual state? Or, do I enter the combined income (as instructed) from my federal tax return. Please advise.
     
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