gone forever?


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leighz

A friend who wanted to move all of her info from money on an old
computer to a new computer (without the benefit of a flash drive, cd
burner, network, cursory computer knowledge, etc) tied to move the
file to a floppy. When the floppy ran out of room, she cancelled the
transfer, and the file itself has since seemingly been lost. She
performed a systems restore to a date before the screw-up and was
still unable to find the file. Then she called me. I've tried good old
fashioned searching the entire hard drive by date for .mny or .tmp
files, FileScavenger, Undelete, etc, and cannot find anything
resembling that file. I do have one file of interest that is a
"xxx.mny.xml" but cannot seem to rename it and save it as a money file
to open. Is that even appropriate? I'm either in over my head or
missing something simple. I don't need to be told how stupid it was to
depend on a single file in a single hard drive. Please help? There are
3 years of data in that file, and tax deadline is almost here. THANKS!
 
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Cal Learner-- MVP

In said:
A friend who wanted to move all of her info from money on an old
computer to a new computer (without the benefit of a flash drive, cd
burner, network, cursory computer knowledge, etc) tied to move the
file to a floppy. When the floppy ran out of room, she cancelled the
transfer, and the file itself has since seemingly been lost. She
performed a systems restore to a date
I hope that restore was not one of those disk images that OEMs send
out that restore the hard drive to the way it was shipped from the
factory.

before the screw-up and was
still unable to find the file. Then she called me. I've tried good old
fashioned searching the entire hard drive by date for .mny or .tmp
files,
If you did not find sample.mny, then your search may not have been
complete. Make sure you are checking everything.


Add *.mbf to your search.

FileScavenger, Undelete, etc, and cannot find anything
resembling that file. I do have one file of interest that is a
"xxx.mny.xml" but cannot seem to rename it and save it as a money file
to open. Is that even appropriate?
Nothing of use there.
 
L

leighz

I hope that restore was not one of those disk images that OEMs send
out that restore the hard drive to the way it was shipped from the
factory.


If you did not find sample.mny, then your search may not have been
complete. Make sure you are checking everything.

Add *.mbf to your search.


Nothing of use there.




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yes - i looked for back up files as well. no, the systems restore was
the simple windows xp style, not a disk for restoring to shipping date
or anything. it should not have affected and files anyway. doing a
complete search of any and all files in any folder on the computer
turns up nothing of any file extension for the date that she did the
copying, etc. i'm stumped!
 
C

Cal Learner-- MVP

In said:
yes - i looked for back up files as well. no, the systems restore was
the simple windows xp style, not a disk for restoring to shipping date
or anything. it should not have affected and files anyway. doing a
complete search of any and all files in any folder on the computer
turns up nothing of any file extension for the date that she did the
copying, etc. i'm stumped!
I agree. Nothing would seem to explain the *.mny and *.mbf all going
away.


You might try looking just for files that are bigger than 4 meg.

You might try a command line search such as these in case there is
some setting in the non-command line search that makes it too
restrictive:

dir \*.mny /s
dir \*.mbf /s
 
L

leighz

I agree. Nothing would seem to explain the *.mny and *.mbf all going
away.

You might try looking just for files that are bigger than 4 meg.

You might try a command line search such as these in case there is
some setting in the non-command line search that makes it too
restrictive:

dir \*.mny /s
dir \*.mbf /s

great ideas... i tried both... it is so bizarre... with the dir
searches, there are filles from 2002 and 2003, but absolutely no
documents at all from 2004, 05, 06, which are the years she tried to
copy! any other thoughts???
 
L

leighz

great ideas... i tried both... it is so bizarre... with the dir
searches, there are filles from 2002 and 2003, but absolutely no
documents at all from 2004, 05, 06, which are the years she tried to
copy! any other thoughts???- Hide quoted text -

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now i think i have more to add to the question... the location of the
backup file in money is always the same unless you alter it when
logging out... if 'yes' rather than 'don't back-up' was selected upon
looking at the 2002-03 data, wouldn't that have overwritten the file?
overwritten = not going to find it?
 
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Cal Learner-- MVP

In microsoft.public.money, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

now i think i have more to add to the question... the location of the
backup file in money is always the same unless you alter it when
logging out... if 'yes' rather than 'don't back-up' was selected upon
looking at the 2002-03 data, wouldn't that have overwritten the file?
overwritten = not going to find it?
An overwritten should mean there would be a different one there. And
in any case, the .mny file should have been there. There is a brief
interval where there could be a ~*.tmp file, if I remember
correctly, but you already searched for such files.

Money 2006 and newer, by default, keeps backups for the last four
backups, and you can increase that number. I set mine for 99 since I
have a big disk. If I ever came close to running short of space,
then I would think about cutting that back. Money 2005 and earlier
would overwrite its backup file each time unless you changed the
name, assuming the backup address was set to a spot on the hard
drive.

In addition, there would usually be a scheduled backup periodically.
In the old days, people use a floppy, and then a set of floppies.
Today a USB flash drive would usually be the best choice for that,
but we know that did not apply in the case you are studying.

Your search should have turned up those files, even if they were in
the "Recycle Bin". So if you are trying to do forensic analysis,
there are some things that don't add up to me either.
 
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leighz

An overwritten should mean there would be a different one there. And
in any case, the .mny file should have been there. There is a brief
interval where there could be a ~*.tmp file, if I remember
correctly, but you already searched for such files.

Money 2006 and newer, by default, keeps backups for the last four
backups, and you can increase that number. I set mine for 99 since I
have a big disk. If I ever came close to running short of space,
then I would think about cutting that back. Money 2005 and earlier
would overwrite its backup file each time unless you changed the
name, assuming the backup address was set to a spot on the hard
drive.

In addition, there would usually be a scheduled backup periodically.
In the old days, people use a floppy, and then a set of floppies.
Today a USB flash drive would usually be the best choice for that,
but we know that did not apply in the case you are studying.

Your search should have turned up those files, even if they were in
the "Recycle Bin". So if you are trying to do forensic analysis,
there are some things that don't add up to me either.
yes, re "Money 2005 and earlier would overwrite its backup file each
time unless you changed the
name, assuming the backup address was set to a spot on the hard
drive."
herein lies the bulk of the problem... it's money 2001... so, it's
overwritten... i've tried all i know to do... am personally a
forensic dna analyst, not computer analyst! ;-)
thanks for the help...
 

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