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Peter Saxton

What is a "sava center"?
Sainsbury's trade under that name. They are big warehouse size
supermarkets and there is one near me.



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Peter Saxton

Troy, this and the finance forum are "dog eat dog"...if you don't fit in,
you'll be minced up and devoured.
I think the phrase is "idiot ridiculed".



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StephenGoldenGun

Peter Saxton said:
Stephen GoldenGun wrote:

Wrong as per usual peter <g> I think you have a fascination with me
and
my
intellect..Do you feel intellectually inferior, is that why you are
allways[sic] barking and yapping at my "internet heels" so to speak. LOL..

Well at least he isn't running your amazing special offer on the word
"always"
Its just my sense of humour, he does'nt take it personally...as I'm sure
nobody else does, nothing I say is meant to be taken in offense..I hope its
taken in the spirit its meant. What is wrong with the word always? You must
be talking about my atrocius spelling...."geniuses can't be good at
everything" (tongue in cheek)
I'm sure people don't get upset by your sense of humour at all. But
you should try to widen it's subject matter and not always (?) base it
on your stupidity and incompetence.
I'll bear that in mind.
 
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Peter Saxton

That is not true at all. How can you trace someone who is using an internet
cafe in the heart of mumbai, where the users are using multiple proxy
servers in different countries? It is impossible to trace..absolutely
impossible, I mean this is standard practice to use this method of
communications.
Or using the vast number of offices that offer temporary computer
fascilities. They can use them on an anonymous basis.
If people are using the internet for criminal or illegal purposes I would
assume they would not be so foolish as to use a home based p.c. on a
landline.
Not to mention p.c. access from anonymous mobile phones, using pay per
minute internet access, there again it is only getting tied to a registered
land line, or being registered by your credit card to a isp provider that
renders you traceable.
Any access to a computer where the user cannot be traced such as anonymous
office, anonymous cyber cafe in third world countries or any cyber cafe
where they do not have "cameras monitoring the computers" renders the user
completely and totaly anonymous.
I'm sure laws will be brought in to make camera monitoring in cyber
cafes compulsory.

Presently outside CCTV can be used if available.



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StephenGoldenGun

Peter Saxton said:
I'm sure laws will be brought in to make camera monitoring in cyber
cafes compulsory.

Presently outside CCTV can be used if available.
I am talking exclusively about cyber cafes where their is no monitoring and
further more offices which can be used on an adlib and anonymous basis, in
third world countries and in other countries no such law will be enforced
let alone be introduced. In the UK there is not even any draft proposals to
bring in such a law that I am aware of.
 
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StephenGoldenGun

Peter Saxton said:
snip.> >
I'm sure laws will be brought in to make camera monitoring in cyber
cafes compulsory.

Presently outside CCTV can be used if available.
How about the use of anonymous pay per talk mobile phones that you simply
purchase cards for, it is easy to anonymously purchase these cards and these
mobile phones. Even you can buy them from millions of locations that you can
ensure if ever their is a chance to trace the mobile phone, you can't trace
who bought it. Hence the pure anonymity.

I know of a case where a "pay as you talk" mobile phone was purchased this
was used in an operation to try to steal some priceless jewelewry, however,
the "authorities" where able to trace the mobile phone via "cell phone
tracing technology", as the phone was a "pay as you go" they could only
trace it to the point of origin, in the UK, they then managed to trace the
mobile phone to the day it was purchased (stock control), then could trace
the person due to the "installed cameras" at the purchasing counter...and
therefore narrowed it down to had purchased the particular phone. They
caught the culprits in the end.

The point is that it relies on being traced somewhere along the
route...total anonymity is easily possible, particularly if you purchase a
pay as you go mobile phone, or obtain a pay as you go mobile phone without
any possible connection to yourself.. Presumably those criminals who wish to
use the internet would easiliy manage this. It is so simple a school boy
could do it. Or anybody travelling abroad.
 
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Peter Saxton

I am talking exclusively about cyber cafes where their is no monitoring and
further more offices which can be used on an adlib and anonymous basis, in
third world countries and in other countries no such law will be enforced
let alone be introduced. In the UK there is not even any draft proposals to
bring in such a law that I am aware of.
People would have to go to third world countries to take advantage of
this which would be a certain deterent. To be part of the global
internet it is necessary to have global rules and I feel these will be
introduced eventually.



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StephenGoldenGun

Peter Saxton said:
People would have to go to third world countries to take advantage of
this which would be a certain deterent. To be part of the global
internet it is necessary to have global rules and I feel these will be
introduced eventually.
It is not difficult to get hold of a "pay as you go mobile phone" in the UK,
nor is it difficult to find a small internet cafe without cameras. You may
go to countries such as Eastern Europe where there are no cameras in the
streets as you have in the UK if you are a really paranoid criminal, you may
fly to morocco, you may fly to anywhere on these very cheap Go flights. So
if a criminal wishes to save money, it is very easy to do. You may even hire
someone to get you a "pay as you go" telephone..It is simple...very very
simple..you can get access to the internet if you have cash with no trace
back at all.
 
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Peter Saxton

How about the use of anonymous pay per talk mobile phones that you simply
purchase cards for, it is easy to anonymously purchase these cards and these
mobile phones. Even you can buy them from millions of locations that you can
ensure if ever their is a chance to trace the mobile phone, you can't trace
who bought it. Hence the pure anonymity.

I know of a case where a "pay as you talk" mobile phone was purchased this
was used in an operation to try to steal some priceless jewelewry, however,
the "authorities" where able to trace the mobile phone via "cell phone
tracing technology", as the phone was a "pay as you go" they could only
trace it to the point of origin, in the UK, they then managed to trace the
mobile phone to the day it was purchased (stock control), then could trace
the person due to the "installed cameras" at the purchasing counter...and
therefore narrowed it down to had purchased the particular phone. They
caught the culprits in the end.

The point is that it relies on being traced somewhere along the
route...total anonymity is easily possible, particularly if you purchase a
pay as you go mobile phone, or obtain a pay as you go mobile phone without
any possible connection to yourself.. Presumably those criminals who wish to
use the internet would easiliy manage this. It is so simple a school boy
could do it. Or anybody travelling abroad.
Agreed. You are right. It is a question of how far the authorities
want to fight these things.



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StephenGoldenGun

Snowdon Computers said:
I think PC world sell them - re-badged as their own make. :)
HAHAH Brilliant quip and generally witty answer. 10 out of 10 for that one
Niel.
 
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Troy Steadman

MrCheerful said:
This post of yours does sound a bit up-tight though, doesn't it?
That is because it is tongue in cheek MrCheerful. How're you doing me
old muckha, haven't spoken to you for many a long Sunday!
 
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Troy Steadman

Snowdon Computers said:
Never had dealings with Troy or even been in contact with him as far as I
know before this.
Correct.

I wish I knew what exactly is going on but a few of us
have been pondering and have concluded the following:

I actively buy from a trade only, web based auction. Recently another
customer who bids under the ID 'troy' has been bidding on the same stuff I
go for and we have competitively bid against each other on a number of
occasions. Now we think that the Troy who is the OP of this thread has done
some research and posted all this financial information to these groups with
the intention/hope of it being picked up by the IR or C&E. I lean towards
the latter as he has made quite a few references to whether I account for
VAT correctly. We assume the intention is some sort of industrial espionage
which would have the result of me ceasing to trade and therefore no longer
bidding against him.
Twaddle, don't waste your energy on this line of enquiry, I am
deleting my posts so the IR/VAT theory isn't valid either.
Unfortunately my accounts are straight down the line and correct so I fear
nothing from any investigation aside from the inconvenience. I noticed as
this became clear Troy's attitude from the original post seeming to praise
my business to, more recently, a slightly malicious or nasty tone which we
think is Troy showing his true colours as his attempt to 'drop me in it' has
failed miserably.
I got cross because you called me obsessed. Last week I spent two
hours maybe reading some of your (and kickaround's) posts in Google,
because it is humorous and instructive. If I *am* obsessed it is with
your "painting by numbers" instruction manual on how to make £700 a
week in your spare time in your first year with all technical info and
guidance.

What insurance do I need? How much is carriage? How do I arrange
payment? What are my T&C's? Suppose the customer won't pay? How do I
recognise a dodgy geezer? Whatever I want to know is there free
gratis, including my first years accounts, and now I've got another
post to delete.
Of course this is all supposition and I could be just paranoid but the
pattern most definitely fits. Unfortunately I can not confirm the identity
of the Troy who uses the trade auction due to data protection rules and
although I am on extremely good terms with the management there I would not
put them in the awkward position by asking them.
I am not Troy of the auction house (he he he) or Troy of Peterborough.
 
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Stephen GoldenGun

Troy Steadman said:
"MrCheerful" <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message

That is because it is tongue in cheek MrCheerful. How're you doing me
old muckha, haven't spoken to you for many a long Sunday!
Wow! Do you realise Troy, what a famous guy you are now. Even everybody on
the "finance forum" knows who you are! Your famous. Look how many people
have taken an interest to your postings. Did you know that this story was
going to generate so much interest.


Now just when we all thought we had got to the bottom of the mystery of the
"posting"...can you tell us who on earth is "Mr. Cheerful"? Sorry, I do'nt
mean to be nosey troy, but you have made us become curious
 
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Stephen GoldenGun

Troy Steadman said:
"MrCheerful" <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message

That is because it is tongue in cheek MrCheerful. How're you doing me
old muckha, haven't spoken to you for many a long Sunday!
Wow! Do you realise Troy, what a famous guy you are now. Even everybody on
the "finance forum" knows who you are! Your famous. Look how many people
have taken an interest to your postings. Did you know that this story was
going to generate so much interest.


Now just when we all thought we had got to the bottom of the mystery of the
"posting"...can you tell us who on earth is "Mr. Cheerful"? Sorry, I do'nt
mean to be nosey troy, but you have made us become curious
 
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Stephen GoldenGun

Troy Steadman said:
"MrCheerful" <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message

That is because it is tongue in cheek MrCheerful. How're you doing me
old muckha, haven't spoken to you for many a long Sunday!
Wow! Do you realise Troy, what a famous guy you are now. Even everybody on
the "finance forum" knows who you are! Your famous. Look how many people
have taken an interest to your postings. Did you know that this story was
going to generate so much interest.


Now just when we all thought we had got to the bottom of the mystery of the
"posting"...can you tell us who on earth is "Mr. Cheerful"? Sorry, I do'nt
mean to be nosey troy, but you have made us become curious
 
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Stephen GoldenGun

Troy Steadman said:
"MrCheerful" <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote in message

That is because it is tongue in cheek MrCheerful. How're you doing me
old muckha, haven't spoken to you for many a long Sunday!
Wow! Do you realise Troy, what a famous guy you are now. Even everybody on
the "finance forum" knows who you are! Your famous. Look how many people
have taken an interest to your postings. Did you know that this story was
going to generate so much interest.


Now just when we all thought we had got to the bottom of the mystery of the
"posting"...can you tell us who on earth is "Mr. Cheerful"? Sorry, I do'nt
mean to be nosey troy, but you have made us become curious
 
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a1essex.com

BULLSHIT, LOL

 >
 > Of course this is all supposition and I could be just paranoid but the
 > pattern most definitely fits. Unfortunately I can not confirm the
identity
 > of the Troy who uses the trade auction due to data protection rules and
 > although I am on extremely good terms with the management there I would
not
 > put them in the awkward position by asking them.
 >
 > --
 > Best Regards
 > Niel Humphreys
 > Snowdon Computers
 
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Dave D Stevens

Snowdon Computers said:
No worries about the IR though, fortunately my old man instilled a high
degree of honesty in my from an early age and he's always been self
employed. One of his golden bits of advise is to never give the IR or C&E
reason to 'investigate' you by doing anything slightly dodgy so my books are
disgustingly straight. :)
Sanctimonious mate.
Today is the end of my first full year trading and my turnover has
been a tad over £182,000 with a pre tax net margin of around 22%.
There is an error in this statement is there not.
 
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Archibald

Troy said:
THE COMPANY
Starting in July 2001 with just £4,000 capital, Niel has built a
company with a quarter of a million pounds turnover in an industry
where margins are sparse and competition is intense, selling
ex-corporate computers in Ebay and elsewhere.

THE MISSION
The company tries to be truthful but offers no guarantees, leaving the
buyer to evaluate and adopt the risk.

A 15% DISCOUNT FOR BUSINESSES
By making the auction price VAT *inclusive*, far from reducing
margins, because the selling price determines margin in an auction,
the discount encourages bidding and *increases* the margin.
Please stop posting this off-topic crap to uk.legal. Thanks

Archie
 
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tHatDudeUK

Stephen GoldenGun said:
Hey there is no need to say things like that. Read the response that they
have.You can see from the feedback they get from their clients.>
Not that i'd like to be the one paying lots of cash for something and
"adopting the risk". You wouldn't see positive feedback there then....
 

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