Hello to the group... and HELP!


L

Les & Claire

Hello,
for better or worse my partner and I are going to start online
trading. At the moment a great amount of research is going on involving
stock, wholesalers and possible profits. But the first thing nagging at us
is do we become business partners too, or should I be a sole trader and
employ her? Perhaps there is a better way?

Also, could someone point me to the groups FAQ's or even some good
quality UK based sites for the newbie starting out. At this stage, any words
of wisdom would be appreciated. I'm trying to stick to the acronym KISS
(keep it simple stupid!) in all things.

We envisage an Ebay shop to start with our own domain name and website in
due course. Items are to be in the £50 and below retail price range and
easily posted. We're looking for this to be our sole income in time. We will
be working at home with one of us working full time in normal employment to
start with.

It seems a minefield at the moment, with bookkeeping, vat and all.

Back to reading the posts in here... I've looked for some other UK
newsgroups relating to our project but this seems the most apt at the
moment.

Cheers everyone!

Les


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New Startup

Hello,
for better or worse my partner and I are going to start online
trading. At the moment a great amount of research is going on involving
stock, wholesalers and possible profits. But the first thing nagging at us
is do we become business partners too, or should I be a sole trader and
employ her? Perhaps there is a better way?

Also, could someone point me to the groups FAQ's or even some good
quality UK based sites for the newbie starting out. At this stage, any words
of wisdom would be appreciated. I'm trying to stick to the acronym KISS
(keep it simple stupid!) in all things.

We envisage an Ebay shop to start with our own domain name and website in
due course. Items are to be in the £50 and below retail price range and
easily posted. We're looking for this to be our sole income in time. We will
be working at home with one of us working full time in normal employment to
start with.

It seems a minefield at the moment, with bookkeeping, vat and all.

Back to reading the posts in here... I've looked for some other UK
newsgroups relating to our project but this seems the most apt at the
moment.

Cheers everyone!

Les
http://www.ukbusinessforums.com
http://www.startups.co.uk/
http://www.ukonline.gov.uk/startingupinbusiness/
http://www.startinbusiness.co.uk/index.htm

Peter
 
A

Alan Terry

Les & Claire said:
We envisage an Ebay shop to start with our own domain name and website in
due course.
Les / Claire,

To present yourself to the world as a proper business (especially in an
arena like Ebay) you really should set up your own domain name and
business email addresses. Why have you deferred this - it can't be on
cost grounds, surely?

Also, you could have a smart 2 or 3 page website to raise your
credibility without it having online ordering on it (ie avoiding the
expensive bit). What are you assuming would be the cost of something
like that?

I would have thought both of these would be as essential as having
letterheads and business cards would be for a traditional business.
 
B

Bargain Hunter

Try www.uk192.com and speak to Wayne (mention my name!)
They offer terrific value in providing a shopping cart facility at low cost.
I have used them for my online bookshop (www.buyingsupport.co.uk) and been
very pleased.
hope this helps
regards
Matthew Roper
 
S

Stephen

Les & Claire said:
Hello,
for better or worse my partner and I are going to start online
trading. At the moment a great amount of research is going on involving
stock, wholesalers and possible profits. But the first thing nagging at us
is do we become business partners too, or should I be a sole trader and
employ her? Perhaps there is a better way?

Also, could someone point me to the groups FAQ's or even some good
quality UK based sites for the newbie starting out. At this stage, any words
of wisdom would be appreciated. I'm trying to stick to the acronym KISS
(keep it simple stupid!) in all things.

We envisage an Ebay shop to start with our own domain name and website in
due course. Items are to be in the £50 and below retail price range and
easily posted. We're looking for this to be our sole income in time. We will
be working at home with one of us working full time in normal employment to
start with.

It seems a minefield at the moment, with bookkeeping, vat and all.

Back to reading the posts in here... I've looked for some other UK
newsgroups relating to our project but this seems the most apt at the
moment.

Cheers everyone!

Les


--
_ _

"Oh Bother!" said the Borg, "We've assimilated Pooh!"
_ _

"That's 10 times I've explained binary to you.! I won't tell you a 3rd
time!"
_ _

The return E-Mail address is obviously flawed.

If you need an internet website..I'm able to supply a "brochure type
website" for £50. Up to 1000 words, and 6 pages..and £5 hosting per month.
That includes your domain name of your choice as well...and we also will
list it and register it with the major search engines........
 
L

Les & Claire

......... thanks Stephen, if we do the coding and supply images etc can you
just do the hosting bit? Or is it an "all or nothing" package?

Les
 
L

Les & Claire

...... thanks all, yes we agree on the web presence for "image" reasons too.
It seems to be a pre-requisite. At the moment I'm in contact with
wholesalers who will supply a cd-rom of advertising resources that makes the
whole website thing a lot easier. I think we will start with perhaps 12
units ( approx. cost £400) and see if it becomes self sustaining. Selling
out then re-ordering at first. If it fritters away, the plan is wrong. If
the plan is OK, then the balance should climb allowing us to expand units
ordered and reap following cost benefits. Is this a viable method for
start-up?

Les
 
A

Alan Terry

Stephen <indiantravelcom said:
If you need an internet website..I'm able to supply a "brochure type
website" for £50. Up to 1000 words, and 6 pages..and £5 hosting per month.
That includes your domain name of your choice as well...and we also will
list it and register it with the major search engines........
Can we see some examples of live sites that have been set up on this
basis, please?
 
A

Alan Terry

Les & Claire said:
..... thanks all, yes we agree on the web presence for "image" reasons too.
It seems to be a pre-requisite.
A good step forward.
At the moment I'm in contact with
wholesalers who will supply a cd-rom of advertising resources
What are these?
that makes the
whole website thing a lot easier.
In what way?
I think we will start with perhaps 12
units
Of what?
( approx. cost £400) and see if it becomes self sustaining.
I thought your strategy was to form a business that would initially
advertise on eBay - how does all this fit together or are you heading
off in a different direction, now?
Selling
out then re-ordering at first. If it fritters away, the plan is wrong. If
the plan is OK, then the balance should climb allowing us to expand units
ordered and reap following cost benefits. Is this a viable method for
start-up?
Might be - what does it all mean?
 
S

Stephen

Alan Terry said:
Can we see some examples of live sites that have been set up on this
basis, please?

Are you interested in purchasing a website Alan? I am not wishing to openly
use this forum as a market for my products, I only mentioned it in passing
to this couple who are starting in business.

I thought you where making small internet websites for yourself? In which
case your purpose is not to make a purchase? If someone approached me with
interest of course we have websites that have examples. As your not
interested in making a purchase Alan, what is the reason you wish to see the
examples of work that can be supplied?
 
S

Stephen

Alan Terry said:
Can we see some examples of live sites that have been set up on this
basis, please?
In case your wondering why its so inexpensive, it is a special promotion
which I am running at the moment for the first ten to twenty so that the
name of the company and the incredibly good value for money can be
offered...

I will be offering further good value, as I am able to use indian web
designers and indian programmers..for even complex complicated sites...so
please don't let the theme of low cost work make you think that the work is
of inferior quality.
 
S

Stephen

Stephen said:
In case your wondering why its so inexpensive, it is a special promotion
which I am running at the moment for the first ten to twenty so that the
name of the company and the incredibly good value for money can be
offered...

I will be offering further good value, as I am able to use indian web
designers and indian programmers..for even complex complicated sites...so
please don't let the theme of low cost work make you think that the work is
of inferior quality.
In fact it is a relatively knew business, and that is why I am offering a
special deal, I am using a UK webdesigner who is manufacturing the brochure
style websites...eg. the ones we have on offer, and for interactive large
shopping carts or large projects, I will be using graduate indian
programmers, having the full range of IT skills who are based in india
itself..., this is because I travel to india frequently and therefore can
arrange these kinds of projects.

So if anybody has any need or knows of anybody with a need for a large
internet project at a low cost price but high quality....

Then let me know.>
 
C

Clive George

<some stuff about writing some websites>

you a funny man.

You NEED a sample. Where's your own professionally designed website to
demonstrate your skills?

clive
 
S

Stephen

Clive George said:
<some stuff about writing some websites>

you a funny man.

You NEED a sample. Where's your own professionally designed website to
demonstrate your skills?

clive
HI Clive.

You are right...the reason we are offering about ten to fifteen websites to
be designed for £50 is so that we can build up a client base with referrels
so that I can show clients the high quality work we are able to do.

In fact I am not the "website designer" at all. I know about websites, I
know the best kind of design regarding marketing purposes...so that a client
gets my knowledge of marketing and sales, as well as high quality work. The
high quality actual construction of the website is not done by me. I am not
a website maker, I do not have those technical skills, so that is why I am
subcontracting the work to business partnering arrangement, so that I am
able to take the information from the client, then hand that over to the
technical website maker who will do the actual technical work.

So in answer to your point, I strongly agree with that, but that is why I am
offering a very good deal, to attract my first clients.

In due course I will have some websites to show..in fact I am getting my own
website for my own business made at this moment.....

Rgds
 
A

Alan Terry

Stephen <indiantravelcom said:
I thought you where making small internet websites for yourself?
Yes, that's one of the business services I provide (as well as book-
keeping): http://www.yoursuccess.co.uk

No secrets - people can see (a) the quality of the work, (b) the costs
and value, and (c) know who is working for them.

In your case you only mentioned (b), you let people make their own
assumptions on (c) and you seem reluctant to show the world anything on
(a).
If someone approached me with
interest of course we have websites that have examples.
what is the reason you wish to see the
examples of work that can be supplied?
This is a business forum - of course people are interested.

BTW what's your interest in accountancy?
 
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Alan Terry

Stephen <indiantravelcom said:
In fact it is a relatively knew business, and that is why I am offering a
special deal, I am using a UK webdesigner who is manufacturing the brochure
style websites...eg. the ones we have on offer, and for interactive large
shopping carts or large projects, I will be using graduate indian
programmers, having the full range of IT skills who are based in india
itself..., this is because I travel to india frequently and therefore can
arrange these kinds of projects.

So if anybody has any need or knows of anybody with a need for a large
internet project at a low cost price but high quality....
.... they will know what to do!

Would any accountant in here really recommend that their clients
approach someone for a website who is an agent (without their own
website, incidentally!) who doesn't produce websites, but passes work
out to undisclosed programmers who he probably has never met?

I can't see it, but then I might just be worried about some
competition!!!

After all this is the Stephen who was educating us all about targeting
markets and telemarketing at the start of this (or was it another?)
thread.
 
S

Stephen

Alan Terry said:
Stephen <indiantravelcom said:
Alan Terry said:
Yes, that's one of the business services I provide (as well as book-
keeping): http://www.yoursuccess.co.uk

No secrets - people can see (a) the quality of the work, (b) the costs
and value, and (c) know who is working for them.

In your case you only mentioned (b), you let people make their own
assumptions on (c) and you seem reluctant to show the world anything on
(a).

I am offering a good deal so that we get a list of client work to show
people..It is a brand knew business..although the person I'm usuing has been
doing it for ages.


I'm mainly calling small businesses, such as hotels, pubs, farms who do bed
and breakfasts..

The client can see the work and does not have to pay until he's happy with
it.....


I'm hoping to attract a large client base and then build up on
recommendations and referrels.

As with all business its the most difficult to get started.
 
S

Stephen

Alan Terry said:
... they will know what to do!

Would any accountant in here really recommend that their clients
approach someone for a website who is an agent (without their own
website, incidentally!) who doesn't produce websites, but passes work
out to undisclosed programmers who he probably has never met?

I get a UK programmer who is having great skills, but no marketing
experience, and in fact I make regular trips to india, that is how I have
contacts with excellent programmers.


Do you think it matters if a person does not directly get to meet the
programmer?


For example if a person orders some brochures......once he has seen the
quality, do you really think they need to meet the man who does the
printing?

Not at all..nobody minds.

I am offering basic web services at a really good price..

Why do you infer I have not met the people doing the work?

You are making assumptions...

I explained I don't yet have websites because it is one of several new
businesses I am launching in connection with my telemarketing business.....


I am not expecting recommendations from Accountants as you imply....I will
get reccomendations from clients who have got a really good deal and are
very happy with their product....

Remember they don't have to pay anything until they have seen their own
website....so I think that is a really good deal!

Best Regards
 
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Dave

I'm mainly calling small businesses, such as hotels, pubs, farms who do bed
and breakfasts..

The client can see the work and does not have to pay until he's happy with
it.....
Go away you spamming tw@.

This is uk.business.accountancy
Come back when you have something like a tax question.

Keep in touch with yourself,
Dave
 

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