Help 47 yr old man decide on degree?


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me

Degrees don't help as such. Find proper connections.

So in your opinion...... its more important that I do
social engineering by creating and maintaining social
"networks"...... that it is to actually know the tech
end of things?
 
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Duane Bozarth

So in your opinion...... its more important that I do
social engineering by creating and maintaining social
"networks"...... that it is to actually know the tech
end of things?
It takes a skill set <first>. Despite the new-age pop mantras,
"networking" isn't the end all panacea. Once you have a skill set to
sell, then using the people you have worked with up to that point, other
acquaintances and their knowledge of who is needing help, etc., etc.,
etc., is a good way to start exploring. But, the old hard work of
"treating getting a job as a job" is still the key. You're in an
engineering environment of some sort now. Start there looking at what
their needs are/will be. Expand to who they do their business for with,
who supplies them. Expand that circle...
 
M

me

They age discriminate and if you can't get in on nepotism you have a
zero chance. The self employment route has the highest probability of
success.
Point well taken on my end

I realize my age is really gonna work against me

But the way I'm thinking abt it is..... better to be 52
and HAVE a degree and be age discriminated... then to
be 52 and NO degree and be age discriminated.

Is that good logic? Or flawed
 
M

me

The self employment route has the highest probability of
I agree with this

And that's why even tho I want to go back to college
that I'm also entertaining the idea that I should
develop and acquire income entertaining assets such as
business or rental property or storage units....
whatever

I've got my work cut out for me the next 5 yrs and I
KNOW it! But what other alternative do I have?

I don't wanna be 53 and in same boot I'm in now

And the only way I can see out of this "rut".... is tow
do BOTH things simultaneously....college and business
development

But please remember...when I'm talking business....I'm
talking something very modest and on small scale.
Cleaning business, window washing, hot dog stand. Who
knows. But it will be small scale.
 
M

me

In engineering, your idea of sales isn't such a bad one

Well with an engineering degree it also opens up other
non engineering type jobs as well. No?

Example.... the safety man here at local plant.

Wouldn't having an engineering degree open up some jobs
such as in safety field?
 
M

me

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Duane Bozarth

Well with an engineering degree it also opens up other
non engineering type jobs as well. No?

Example.... the safety man here at local plant.

Wouldn't having an engineering degree open up some jobs
such as in safety field?
Of course having an engineering degree doesn't mean you can't do
something besides designing bridges...what you get from <any> degree is
(hopefully) a basis for cogent thought and the application of logic to
problem-solving w/ a selective set of specific skills. Engineering (and
the "hard" sciences/math in general) provide a set of tools applicable
to a wide range of problems. It's up to you to use them as you see
fit.
 
D

Duane Bozarth

Point well taken on my end

I realize my age is really gonna work against me

But the way I'm thinking abt it is..... better to be 52
and HAVE a degree and be age discriminated... then to
be 52 and NO degree and be age discriminated.

Is that good logic? Or flawed
Depends on what you intend to use it for...a large number of very
successful people have never gotten a degree (the obvious over-used
example is Mr Bill somewhere up there in the Pacific Northwest). If
you're doing this w/ the intent of simply going to work for a major
corporation as a flunky, you probably <will> find a near dead-end as
there are so many new graduates as well as the yet-to-be-reabsorbed
older, but experienced engineers competing for the same positions you
will be. That's why concentrating on what you could do to add value to
yourself in your present position or how you could take what you already
know and make that into something more than it is are probably the more
fruitful directions to pursue.
 
R

Robert Anderson

So what say all? Is my logic flawed or does it make
any sense? That is to study accounting and engineering
rather than business and IT?
Get yourself a 4-year Civil Engineering degree. That would be a good
compliment to your background in CAD.
 
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Richard

On 2005-07-10 21:06:53 -0400, (e-mail address removed) said:
Well, I am 49, Recieved my masters in accounting 20 yrs ago. Never used
it. I made a living playing the piano. Now I am starting an accounting
business have a few clients. I am so glad I choose accounting for my
degrees.. It is a great trade for a middle age to older person.
Good Luck
Rich
 
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finance hotshot

a) for the 47 year old, i recommend an all purpose business degree.
it's give you some practical
advice about how to run your cleaning business better.

b) for the 49 year old accountant, what exactly do you do for your
clients?
 
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