Hewlett Packard cashback (OT in uk.d-i-y)


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David Woolley

Bob said:
Why on earth should it be fraud?
It would be fraud if they changed the invoice so that it no longer
matched the printer. If they replaced the printer, at the same time, it
would probably be OK.

However, the original sale might have been fraudulent if they had
claimed that it qualified for the cash back.
 
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David Woolley

Tony said:
My take on how these schemes are meant to work is that (say) you buy said
laptop for your business, then pocket the rebate yourself. Accounts
That would be tax fraud. If such practices are common, I would expect
HMRC to request details of the payees!
 
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Bob Eager

It would be fraud if they changed the invoice so that it no longer
matched the printer. If they replaced the printer, at the same time, it
would probably be OK.
Do keep up. It was a microserver!

They refunded me for the first server and re-invoiced me for the second.
However, the original sale might have been fraudulent if they had
claimed that it qualified for the cash back.
They did - but that was due to circumstances unknown to them. They took
immediate (with 3 hours, anyway) action to put it right, at their expense.
 
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geoff

Bob Eager said:
The ones being discussed here (certainly the microservers) don't require
any old hardware.
No - that's a breakaway subthread

"HP currently have cashback offers on some of their laptops" is
specifically what I was referring to

(yes, I also bought a couple of proliant uservers with the cashback
deal).
 
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Roger Mills

No - that's a breakaway subthread

"HP currently have cashback offers on some of their laptops" is
specifically what I was referring to

(yes, I also bought a couple of proliant uservers with the cashback deal).
But the laptops I referred to in my OP don't require any part exchange.
It's simply a retrospective cash discount. Like this one, for example:
http://www.ebuyer.com/409145-hp-650-laptop-c5c49ea-abu?utm_source=b2c_thursday&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=b2c_thursday
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Roger
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Andrew Gabriel

Did it with a printer once.

Fulfilled all the conditions including scanning the invoice and uploading
it on their website.
No cashback forthcoming.

Several emails later with them claiming I never provided an invoice I
scanned and emailled the invoice on a promise it would be sorted.

Repeated the above several times and eventually got the cashback.

The printer was shite (OfficeJet 600 IIRC), I told them i'd never buy
from them again and never have.

I reckon most people would have given up but I never if I reckon that's
what they are counting on.
Cashback relies on almost no one getting it.
Otherwise, there's no point - it's just additional paperwork cost for
everyone.
 
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Theo Markettos

In uk.d-i-y Andrew Gabriel said:
Cashback relies on almost no one getting it.
Otherwise, there's no point - it's just additional paperwork cost for
everyone.
Depends. Mobile phone cashback is like that - submit your claim every 5th
Tuesday of the month, full moons excepted. But IT cashback is often used to
shift excess inventory without pulling down the numbers. The laptops which
were officially £500 but they have so many of the wretched things sitting
around the warehouse they offer a cashback deal to get shot of them (cough,
might I mention Windows 8 here). That's a sales promotion, it doesn't upset
the accounts in other ways.

What I don't understand though is how they managed to do things like the
Microservers, which have been on cashback for years now. Either they're
really cheap to make or they're subsidising to break into a new market,
because it's clearly not excess inventory. And the small businesses they're
aimed at are probably going to be better at filing the cashback returns than
large ones.

Theo
 
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Bob Eager

What I don't understand though is how they managed to do things like the
Microservers, which have been on cashback for years now. Either they're
really cheap to make or they're subsidising to break into a new market,
because it's clearly not excess inventory. And the small businesses
they're aimed at are probably going to be better at filing the cashback
returns than large ones.
The last microserver promotion was in the few months before that model
went EOL. The new ones don't have cashback - yet.

But I agree....they are probably really cheap to make! Well made though...
 
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David Woolley

brightside said:
I wonder if HMRC are looking at taxing these cash-back deals, why
wouldn't they after screwing the return of trail commision?
In the case where the company pays, but the employee gets the cash back,
I assume that they are already taxable as income.

Where the person who pays gets the cash back, I would hope that the
giver of the cash back receives a refund of the VAT. However, if that
is not the case, there would be yet another source of revenue for the
government.
 

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