How do I get a national insurance number?


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goa.residence

I was born in the UK

I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?


I am moving (permanently) to Boston, but want to stay here for about 11
months.

(I'd rather not work 'cash-in-hand' as it's less easy to pay tax)


Help, please!
 
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Sharky

I was born in the UK

I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?


I am moving (permanently) to Boston, but want to stay here for about 11
months.
Why on earth would someone want to move to Lincolnshire for?
 
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Peter Crosland

I was born in the UK
I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?


I am moving (permanently) to Boston, but want to stay here for about
11 months.

(I'd rather not work 'cash-in-hand' as it's less easy to pay tax)
Please learn to Google!

http://www.direct.gov.uk/MoneyTaxAn...xArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4015904&chk=izW7Qe

Peter Crosland
 
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Dr Zoidberg

I was born in the UK

I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?
You go to your local social security office and ask nicely.
They will want to interview you , mostly to establish that you are a UK
citizen entitled to one , and to check that you need one.
I don't knwo how long it takes for it to then arrive.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nic/ynino.htm#4
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
 
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Netty

Dr Zoidberg said:
You go to your local social security office and ask nicely.
They will want to interview you , mostly to establish that you are a UK
citizen entitled to one , and to check that you need one.
I don't knwo how long it takes for it to then arrive.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nic/ynino.htm#4
Actually, if you go to the Jobcentre Plus Office they will give you a
telephone number you need to ring to book an appointment for a National
Insurance Number interview. (Unfortunately I don't remember the phone number
off the top of my head.) National Insurance Numbers will only be given to
people who (a) Are actively seeking work and can prove they are, (b)
Actually working and can provide payslips/letter from employer etc, or (c)
have made a claim to a UK benefit that they will be entitled to. You also
obviously need to prove your identity.

Come to think about it, if you have previously lived in the UK, did either
of your parents ever claim Child Benefit for you in the UK? If they did,
there may already be a National Insurance Number already allocated to you.
If that is the case, you may not need a full interview and someone may be
able to do a specialist trace on their system to see if there is already one
for you. If Child Benefit was paid for you, it may be worth you explaining
this to the person you speak to when you ring the number that the Jobcentre
Plus person will give you.

If you have to have the full interview, it can take several weeks for your
National Insurance Number to be allocated to you. But you should be told how
long you have to wait for it at the interview.
 
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Billy H

I was born in the UK

I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?


I am moving (permanently) to Boston, but want to stay here for about 11
months.

(I'd rather not work 'cash-in-hand' as it's less easy to pay tax)


Help, please!
Contact the Town Hall in the town where you were born.
 
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Billy H

Netty said:
Actually, if you go to the Jobcentre Plus Office they will give you a
telephone number you need to ring to book an appointment for a National
Insurance Number interview. (Unfortunately I don't remember the phone
number off the top of my head.) National Insurance Numbers will only be
given to people who (a) Are actively seeking work and can prove they are,
(b) Actually working and can provide payslips/letter from employer etc, or
(c) have made a claim to a UK benefit that they will be entitled to. You
also obviously need to prove your identity.

Come to think about it, if you have previously lived in the UK, did either
of your parents ever claim Child Benefit for you in the UK? If they did,
there may already be a National Insurance Number already allocated to you.
If that is the case, you may not need a full interview and someone may be
able to do a specialist trace on their system to see if there is already
one for you. If Child Benefit was paid for you, it may be worth you
explaining this to the person you speak to when you ring the number that
the Jobcentre Plus person will give you.

If you have to have the full interview, it can take several weeks for your
National Insurance Number to be allocated to you. But you should be told
how long you have to wait for it at the interview.
Scrap that, contact the Town Hall.
 
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Netty

Billy H said:
Contact the Town Hall in the town where you were born.
He should NOT contact his town hall for his National Insurance Number!
What's his town hall got to do with it????
 
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John

Billy said:
Contact the Town Hall in the town where you were born.
Nothing at all to do with the Town Hall! Go to the JobCentre+ office
nearest to where you are living.

Ordinarily British Citizens are allocated a NINO automatically at about
age 16, but this happens only in respect of children where Child Benefit
is being paid. But the OP was living abroad, and thus missed out on such
automatic allocation of NINO.
 
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Netty

Sharky said:
Why on earth would someone want to move to Lincolnshire for?
What's wrong with Lincolnshire???

I think it's a beautiful county. It's steeped in history. Lincoln was
recorded in the Doomsday book, some of the Da Vinci Code was filmed at
Lincoln Cathedral, the Pilgrim Fathers sailed from Boston to America,
there's the Boston Stump, Gibraltar Point, The Lincolnshire Wolds, Grimsby,
Cleethorpes, oh... and Skegness! Three British Superbike teams are based in
Lincolnshire too. Most veg that is bought around the country
(fresh/frozen/canned) is grown in the county. I could go on....
 
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Netty

John said:
Nothing at all to do with the Town Hall! Go to the JobCentre+ office
nearest to where you are living.

Ordinarily British Citizens are allocated a NINO automatically at about
age 16, but this happens only in respect of children where Child Benefit
is being paid. But the OP was living abroad, and thus missed out on such
automatic allocation of NINO.
Not necessarily, depends if the OP's parents were ever in receipt of Child
Benefit for the OP before moving abroad. The child is allocated a reference
number by the Child Benefit system (if I am correct) which then turns into
their NINO at a later date. NINOs are also given to the child if another
benefit is claimed for them (usually something like Disability Living
Allowance) before they turn 16.
 
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Michael Swift

Netty said:
What's wrong with Lincolnshire???

I think it's a beautiful county. It's steeped in history. Lincoln was
recorded in the Doomsday book, some of the Da Vinci Code was filmed at
Lincoln Cathedral, the Pilgrim Fathers sailed from Boston to America,
there's the Boston Stump, Gibraltar Point, The Lincolnshire Wolds,
Grimsby, Cleethorpes, oh... and Skegness! Three British Superbike teams
are based in Lincolnshire too. Most veg that is bought around the
country (fresh/frozen/canned) is grown in the county. I could go on....
Grimsby, Cleethorpes & Skegness, bad move, you lose :)

Mike
 
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Billy H

Netty said:
He should NOT contact his town hall for his National Insurance Number!
What's his town hall got to do with it????

Do they not havea record there?

Why not?
 
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Billy H

John said:
Nothing at all to do with the Town Hall! Go to the JobCentre+ office
nearest to where you are living.

Ordinarily British Citizens are allocated a NINO automatically at about
age 16, but this happens only in respect of children where Child Benefit
is being paid. But the OP was living abroad, and thus missed out on such
automatic allocation of NINO.

The OP is abroad or so I read, a call to the Town Hall, even if it does not
yield a number immediately, may get a transfer to the appropriate office
sooner than the procedural crap at the DWP.
 
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Aaron Borbora

Billy H said:
Do they not havea record there?

Why not?
Why would they? NI numbers are for Social Security benefits etc, administer
through Central, rather than Local, government.
 
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Cynic

I was born in the UK

I have a British Passport. I am a British Citizen.


How on earth do I get a National Insurance number?

I moved abroad when I was a baby (4 months old).

Do I just walk into a governemnt office & ask for a NI number? Does it
take weeks & weeks?
I was in a similar position. Phone & ask what is required. At the
time (over 20 years ago), AFAIR I simply sent my birth certificate &
passport and was issued with an NI number & card within a few weeks.
 
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Alex Heney

Grimsby, Cleethorpes & Skegness, bad move, you lose :)
Technically, Grimsby and Cleethorpes have not been in Lincolnshire
since Humberside was formed in the '70s. (Unless they changed it back
again after I left :)
 
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Alex Heney

Do they not havea record there?

Why not?
Because that isn't part of their remit.

Such records are held by the registrars offices not the town hall.

But even then, they can't issue NI numbers, they only hold the records
showing you were born and registered there.

NI numbers are issued nationally, probably by the DWP (department of
Work and Pensions) nowadays, although it used to be the DHSS when that
existed.
 
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Alex Heney

The OP is abroad or so I read, a call to the Town Hall, even if it does not
yield a number immediately, may get a transfer to the appropriate office
sooner than the procedural crap at the DWP.
Actually slower, since all they will do is point him back at the DWP,
so the time spent contacting his local offices (Town hall would be
totally pointless anyhow) would be wasted.
 
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Sharky

Alex said:
Technically, Grimsby and Cleethorpes have not been in Lincolnshire
since Humberside was formed in the '70s. (Unless they changed it back
again after I left :)
Yep, soon as they'd got rid of you!
 

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