Item is available on the website


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chris allsopp

What does checking the "Item is available on the website" box do?

Is there then an export of data that can be done to upload to our website?

Please help as we are just re-doing our website and would ideally like to
use the details from RMS to set up the items on our site.

anyone with experience linking the two, please help.

Chris
 
P

PRJ

I'm sure you'll get specific RMS functionality responses to your question,
but I can tell you that I spent some time and money on a shopping card
program (called Taber Pro) that use d this function. If you checked that
box for items, the Taber software would upload all the pertinent info from
the RMS database to populated the shopping cart. This included name, price,
description and image, if I recall. So that's one function of that box.

But I can't recommend Taber to you as it is a very rudimentary product that
hasn't had anything done to it's front end in what would seem to be many,
many years. It looks like something from 1980,if there even was an online
shopping cart back then.
 
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Dominic

Hi

Check out www.nitrosell.com for an integrated solution or call +1 617
261 8443.

I can guarantee that checking the web enabled option enables products
on to the webstore automatically - they can be synchronized in the
background every hour if you want. PLUS you can set additional fields
to control web special pricing, promotions, ratings, etc.

Dominic
 
K

kosmoscentral

Hi Chris more options at:

KosmosCentral:
http://www.kosmoscentral.com/ecommerce/rms-integration/

Newestech:
http://www.newestech.com/POS/RMS/Extensions.htm#eCommerce

With New West Technologies Web Integrator you can upload all your
categories and products to the web for the items you have enabled the
box for "Item is available on the website." The Web Integrator
communicates with our Kosmos Web Service to populate the shopping cart
database and at the same time downloads new orders directly into RMS.

Alex
 
R

RMS Retailer

I'm confused after doing some extensive web research on a NitroSell
and Kosmos. The results have been interesting, but I still don't know
which solution to choose:

* Kosmos looks a lot slicker, but NitroSell seems to have more street
cred.

* Kosmos does not seem to own anything - they use a third party
shopping chart and a third party "Web integrator". What happens if
either of these solutions cease to exist, or even are upgraded?

* NitroSell seems to be do it all but "seem to be too good to be true"

* Kosmos have a handful of customers - yet their website does not give
any links. Do they actually have any customers? Can anybody give me
some URLs?

* NitroSell claims "over 500 hundred". They have a "showcase" but only
list 20 or 30 reference sites, some of which are pretty cool, but
what's with the 500 figure?

* I found three NitroSell case studies on Microsoft, but none from
Kosmos?

* Kosmos use New West "award winning" web integrator

(if the New West Integrator is so good, why doesn't New West
sell a webstore solution?)

* NitroSell won an "outstanding WebStore for RMS" award from
Microsoft, but this award is only referenced on the NitroSell site,
not on the MS site. Did NitroSell really win an award?

* Kosmos "sells through" dealers - however there is no indication of
how many.

* NitroSell "seems to have "just under 200 RMS Dealer Resellers". The
only one directly referenced is POSitive (who seem to have won every
award Microsoft ever issued.) Some news items on the NitroSell site do
reference other dealers. Does anyone have any idea how many dealers
NitroSell actually has?

* Kosmos is a "one man band" - the site looks good, but a good web
designer could make it look like this....

* NitroSell is "backed by major international VCs". No details
provided on thier website, but they appear to have a board with some
heavy hitters.

* Kosmos does not seem to attend any Microsoft conferences or partner
events. Are Kosmos recognised by Microsoft?

* NitroSell seems to attend every Microsoft partner event that
Microsoft every runs. My research would indiciate that NitorSell are a
major MS partner, Some senior RMS Dynamics Director (Dickstein?) in
Microssoft seem to publically endorse Microsoft. The MS legal eagles
would not have let this happen without some serious commitment?

* According to these forums "Mickie" tried both solutions, but ended
up choosing NitroSell, yet the relevant discussions make Kosmos appear
a better choice. Why did Mickie choose NitroSell?

* The NitroSell site does not indicate exactly how many offices they
have but web searches seem to indicate three in the US, two in the UK
and one in Ireland (does the internet even exist in Ireland? - isn't
there bombs going off all the time there ?)

* Kosmos indiacte one office on the West Coast and web searching does
not show up any more.

NitroSell "have some amazing technology" - multilingual support,
multiple URL's from one RMS database, extendable product attributes,
multicurrency support, out of the box SEO and market place
integration, mobile commerce support etc etc, I have no doubt they
have all this, based on what third parties are saying, but why is none
of this mentioned on thier website?

Kosmos claim to have an oscommerce solution and if this is true, then
thats the solution I want - ITS FREE! Thing is oscommerce is an open
source solution running on UNIX. Will Microsoft really support having
their POS solution web enabled by a company providing an open source
solutio . This kinda stuff make me really worries me. Kosmos seem to
be doing thier thing without any reference to Microsoft......

Finally, as a retailer what I really need is good support from my RMS
dealer, so when all is said an done I want to know, which solution the
majority of dealers are going with? So RMS dealers please reply to
this post and let us know which one to got with - NitorSell or Kosmos?

CAN WE HAVE SOME CLEAR GUIDANCE HERE? I NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN KOSMOS
AND NITROSELL. PLEASE RMS USERS POST YOUR EXPERIENCES!

I NEED TO GO WITH ONE OF THESE SOLUTIONS! I NEED AN ONLINE SOLUTION
TODAY - IF I DON'T MOVE QUICKLY, TOMORROW I MIGHT BE OUT OF BUSINESS!
HELP!
 
G

Glenn Adams [MVP - Retail Mgmt]

There is just a field in the item table (Item.WebItem) that gets a value
of 1 when the box is checked and a value of 0 when it is not. That's it...

Now, there are quite a few ecommerce integrations out there that can use
that value to select the items to be uploaded, but that is all handled
by the third party products - as far as RMS is concerned, it's just a
checkbox...

Glenn Adams
Tiber Creek Consulting
http://www.tibercreek.com
(e-mail address removed)
 
G

Glenn Adams [MVP - Retail Mgmt]

I thought Kosmos used X-Cart, which is an open source cart solution but
different from oscommerce...

You already have an RMS partner, right? If you are looking for support
from them, why aren't you asking which product they support rather than
opening it up to public debate? Every partner is going to make
different choices about which e-commerce product to support because, as
you have very thoroughly pointed out, there is no obvious best choice.

I've never used the Kosmos solution. I *have* used a different solution
that was based on the New West web integrator. The New West product is
fine; the e-commerce software that we used it with was not. I'm not a
big fan of the work flow for completing a sale with the New West
Integrator, but it's been at least 2 major versions since we used it and
a lot of that is personal preference anyway.

The New West Web Integrator can be used to connect RMS to ANY e-commerce
product. Someone has to develop a couple of web services to support the
upload of product information and the download of sales information, but
the Web integrator takes care of all communication with RMS - that's why
Kosmos can connect a LAMP solution to a Microsoft product. I'm over
simplifying this - there's more to an RMS/e-commerce solution than just
a couple of web services...

We're currently supporting NitroSell. This is the first solution that
I've been willing to deploy more than once. The only issue we have with
them is that they have changed their pricing model and it is not exactly
a slam dunk any more. I don't believe that there is another solution
out there that can compete on ease and speed of deployment or on
features, but the new pricing is a big step up from last year's. On the
other hand, the new version that accompanied the new pricing was a major
upgrade in terms of design flexibility, so it may be warranted.

There's no one right answer to this. Be aware that an RMS integrated
e-commerce solution is not going to be as easy or as fast as you want it
to be. No matter what platform you choose, the bulk of the work (and
therefore cost) is going to be in designing the site, organizing your
departments & categories, updating your items with consistent 'web
quality' descriptions and taking pictures...

Best of Luck!
 
G

geoff

I'm confused after doing some extensive web research on a NitroSell
and Kosmos. The results have been interesting, but I still don't know
which solution to choose:

* Kosmos looks a lot slicker, but NitroSell seems to have more street
cred.

* Kosmos does not seem to own anything - they use a third party
shopping chart and a third party "Web integrator". What happens if
either of these solutions cease to exist, or even are upgraded?

* NitroSell seems to be do it all but "seem to be too good to be true"

* Kosmos have a handful of customers - yet their website does not give
any links. Do they actually have any customers? Can anybody give me
some URLs?

* NitroSell claims "over 500 hundred". They have a "showcase" but only
list 20 or 30 reference sites, some of which are pretty cool, but
what's with the 500 figure?

* I found three NitroSell case studies on Microsoft, but none from
Kosmos?

* Kosmos use New West "award winning" web integrator

(if the New West Integrator is so good, why doesn't New West
sell a webstore solution?)

* NitroSell won an "outstanding WebStore for RMS" award from
Microsoft, but this award is only referenced on the NitroSell site,
not on the MS site. Did NitroSell really win an award?

* Kosmos "sells through" dealers - however there is no indication of
how many.

* NitroSell "seems to have "just under 200 RMS Dealer Resellers". The
only one directly referenced is POSitive (who seem to have won every
award Microsoft ever issued.) Some news items on the NitroSell site do
reference other dealers. Does anyone have any idea how many dealers
NitroSell actually has?

* Kosmos is a "one man band" - the site looks good, but a good web
designer could make it look like this....

* NitroSell is "backed by major international VCs". No details
provided on thier website, but they appear to have a board with some
heavy hitters.

* Kosmos does not seem to attend any Microsoft conferences or partner
events. Are Kosmos recognised by Microsoft?

* NitroSell seems to attend every Microsoft partner event that
Microsoft every runs. My research would indiciate that NitorSell are a
major MS partner, Some senior RMS Dynamics Director (Dickstein?) in
Microssoft seem to publically endorse Microsoft. The MS legal eagles
would not have let this happen without some serious commitment?

* According to these forums "Mickie" tried both solutions, but ended
up choosing NitroSell, yet the relevant discussions make Kosmos appear
a better choice. Why did Mickie choose NitroSell?

* The NitroSell site does not indicate exactly how many offices they
have but web searches seem to indicate three in the US, two in the UK
and one in Ireland (does the internet even exist in Ireland? - isn't
there bombs going off all the time there ?)

* Kosmos indiacte one office on the West Coast and web searching does
not show up any more.

NitroSell "have some amazing technology" - multilingual support,
multiple URL's from one RMS database, extendable product attributes,
multicurrency support, out of the box SEO and market place
integration, mobile commerce support etc etc, I have no doubt they
have all this, based on what third parties are saying, but why is none
of this mentioned on thier website?

Kosmos claim to have an oscommerce solution and if this is true, then
thats the solution I want - ITS FREE! Thing is oscommerce is an open
source solution running on UNIX. Will Microsoft really support having
their POS solution web enabled by a company providing an open source
solutio . This kinda stuff make me really worries me. Kosmos seem to
be doing thier thing without any reference to Microsoft......

Finally, as a retailer what I really need is good support from my RMS
dealer, so when all is said an done I want to know, which solution the
majority of dealers are going with? So RMS dealers please reply to
this post and let us know which one to got with - NitorSell or Kosmos?

CAN WE HAVE SOME CLEAR GUIDANCE HERE? I NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN KOSMOS
AND NITROSELL. PLEASE RMS USERS POST YOUR EXPERIENCES!

I NEED TO GO WITH ONE OF THESE SOLUTIONS! I NEED AN ONLINE SOLUTION
TODAY - IF I DON'T MOVE QUICKLY, TOMORROW I MIGHT BE OUT OF BUSINESS!
HELP!
We only publish a few sites on our case studies...not every customer
is referenced on our show cases. The award is real! It was provided
to us during the RMS roadshow last year which was geared toward
various add-on solutions for RMS...We were invited to attend and were
provided an award in our area of specialization in appreciation by
Microsoft. I think the number of resellers we have is around 180...we
get new ones all the time but that's what it was last time I checked.
Most RMS resellers are resellers of ours as well, however not all are.
Obviously we can not provide the names of our VCs for confidentiality
purposes, however I will say that Ireland is a lot different than the
U.S. in this and many other areas. The Irish government gives
incentives for investing in Irish companies that are expanding
globally. As for the maintenance of our main web site, you are correct
it is in need of an update. unfortunately or fortunately (depends on
how you view it) most of our resources go into the product...Of course
there is internet in Ireland and a quick review of current events and
history should indicate that the violence you refer to has been over
for more than a decade. We do offer all of the amazing technologies we
refer to and can show them; all you need to do is contact us
directly...We have our main US office in San Diego (formerly it was in
Boston), 2 remote sales offices (one in North Carolina and the other
is Seattle), another one outside of London and the company is
headquartered in Cork, Ireland. We don't publish the addresses
because we just don't have the need to...we are primarily a we bases
business so anyone that might need our address info can obtain that
too by direct contact. The old Boston number is our main US number,
and it gets forwarded to NC for the time being. Give us a ring
617-261-8443 if you want to hear / see more.

Regards,
Todd Jensen (todd.jensen@nitrosell.com)
NitroSell
 
K

kosmoscentral

Kosmos owns the Web Service piece which is needed to communicate with
the web store and Newestech's Web Integrator. Without the Kosmos Web
Service there would be no inventory and order updates to download or
upload to RMS. With our solution you own it 100% and with the proper
hosting LAMP solution and Zend Optimizer could host anywhere you
choose.

We chose X-Cart for our solution because it's support by a major
company and has security/mod upgrades on a monthly basis. Just check
out the X-Cart Gold feature set here: http://www.x-cart.com/xcart_features.html

Our solution grabs data from the Web Integrator and populates data to
X-Cart an open source software cart via XML. This allows for
communication between a Windows and Linux server and has nothing to do
with what Microsoft will allow.

I would like to state that Kosmos is a Full Service web development
company located downtown Portland, Oregon. Our focus is entirely on
the web and not RMS, our staff local and abroad is well over 20 and
not a one man show. We currently have outgrown our current office and
are in the process of relocated to a larger facility.

We feel that having our fingers in too many cookie jars would only
dilute our effectiveness as a full service web development company,
and that's why we leave all the RMS support to Newestech and our RMS
resellers. New West Technologies are staffed with experts when it
comes to RMS and that's why they are supporting the Web Integrator,
the communication between the RMS database and uploading it to our
Kosmos Web Service. We on the other hand are web development experts
that focus on online solutions and all advanced programming associated
with websites and updates to our Web Service. Just view our website
and portfolio for more information, we've developed intranets,
extranets, corporate branding, logo design, search engine software and
tools http://www.kosmoscentral.com/seo-articles along with extensive
security programming online. If it can be done online we assure you
our staff can accomplish it.

Here is a portfolio of clients http://www.kosmoscentral.com/portfolio/
just review the comments on the left to see which ones have RMS
integration.

You don't have to go through a dealer and can contact sales directly
too:
http://www.kosmoscentral.com/contact/

Thanks for your reply's

Alex
 
W

willl0w

As a retailer I also don't know which one to choose. I have read
through the forum and it seems like the people who post for nitrosell
and kosmos are constantly bickering. It's really funny.

It seems nitrosell is the best product. The only thing you have to be
concerned about is their pricing. It is SKY HIGH. I think it's over
300 a month. Don't forget that if you go over a "X" amount of
bandwidth you will be paying more. Also keep in mind that you never
own the product. They can raise the rent (like a landlord) and you
have no say. I see more resellers supporting nitrosell now. My guess
is for two reasons...the product is better and more importantly the
RMS reseller incentive is better.

Kosmos central does not seem as well integrated and it seems the setup
will be more complicated. The beauty with this product is that it is
yours and you own it 100%!! Which means you can customize as you like
and host where you like. You can have kosmos host for you at half the
price of nitrosell or you can host it yourself (depending on how much
you sell).

RMSretail, you have to decide if nitrosell's 5th ave rent is worth it.
I say NO. If you have the patience and the know how, own your building
and you can do what you want.
 
M

Mickie

Guess that depends on if you have a full-time IT department. When you
OWN it, you OWN it.....if you know what I mean.

There is a constant battle between having all control and being limited
in what you can do with your website. All control may mean more time
spent working through issues and coding/installing/updating..say if you
buy KOSMOS (or other) and have it installed on another ISP or your own
server.

Having a subscription means installing small apps locally and then
having it just work remotely.....no worries.

It's working OK for us and I'm kinda a control freak.

Even Microsoft is requiring subscriptions these days---and you DON'T OWN IT.
 
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Mickie

RMS said:
* According to these forums "Mickie" tried both solutions, but ended
up choosing NitroSell, yet the relevant discussions make Kosmos appear
a better choice. Why did Mickie choose NitroSell?
I chose Nitrosell because I needed QUICK. I was afraid of the THREE
applications (RMS, New-West integrator, X-Cart) all having to work
together especially with separate upgrades happening. What if one
program had an update and suddenly the system is broken? I was afraid of
that.

To be fair, I never used KOSMOS, just compared them. I still MAY use
them for my third website because Nitrosell does not have an AFFILIATE
function.

* The NitroSell site does not indicate exactly how many offices they
have but web searches seem to indicate three in the US, two in the UK
and one in Ireland (does the Internet even exist in Ireland? - isn't
there bombs going off all the time there ?)
Ha Ha. Ireland is THRIVING. LOW unemployment and lots of high tech
companies have moved there. and few bombs.
NitroSell "have some amazing technology" - multilingual support,
multiple URL's from one RMS database, extendable product attributes,
multicurrency support, out of the box SEO and market place
integration, mobile commerce support etc etc, I have no doubt they
have all this, based on what third parties are saying, but why is none
of this mentioned on thier website?
They have a INTERMEDIATE table editor called the "PAM" in between the
Website and the RMS database. It is great for doing MASS CHANGES to many
items at once and also to add specialty fields for yourself or your website.
---
Multi currency works EXCEPT in the shipping area. They have to fix
this. Shipping is calculated in the foreign currency ...so my UPS rate
tables in RMS are useless since they are in home currency. Example:
FREE SHIPPING OVER $100 is in my rate table. If you are shopping in
EUROS and your order is over $100US but under 100EU then you do not get
the free shipping...it doesn't calculate the shipping in HOME currency
and then translate into FOREIGN currency like it should.
-----
SEO is great. Products are auto-listed on Froogle. I manually list them
on Yahoo shopping using the XML file they drop every night.
-----
They are adding a product review add-on soon. So, customers can write
reviews of products you sell.
-----

I am currently using the MULTIPLE URL from one RMS database option. It
works GREAT! We are launching the second website in about 1 week.

Feel free to explore.
http://www.mickiesplace.com

my second site is in progress but will be (after April 2nd):

http://www.archerymarket.com

I have a third website "doggear.com" that will be launched this year also.

Mickie
 
B

BMac

I am about to deploy a Nitrosell website and the time and effort it took to
create an excellent looking, easy to navigate website was incredible.

Obviously the pricing is an issue but we wanted our website to be as
accessible and easy to maintain as possible and the Nitrosell package seemed
to be the best one out there.

I'd highly recommend them.
 
J

Jason

I am still looking for a solution to just DISPLAY my items on a website. I
don't want to sell online - just get items onto a good looking website in an
RMS-integrated manner.

Kosmos and Nitrosell seem like overkill to me.

Any ideas?
 
M

Mickie

If you are going to go through the effort of getting all your items onto
a web page, you might as well sell them.

Unless you just don't want the money....

:)

Seriously, if you have all the item names and pictures already in your
SQL database, just hire a freelancer off e-lance.com or somewhere to
program a script that calls the item name and picture to your site,
without a shopping cart.
 
J

Jason

I am not in the US or Europe where buying online is common. Also, I am
trying to make items viewable to my export customers who all have different
pricing and issues. Trust me - I have a legitimate reason for needing this
without selling online.

It's easy enough for me to run a query to get the required display data (and
picture name) into an Excel or csv text file. I guess I could just get a
programmer to do something with that. I was hoping to get a little more
flexibility that a cart system offers. I just need to get the data from my
system into a database on my web server in a way that a cart can use it.

Note: My web host has free cart software (AgoraCart, CubeCart, osCommerce,
phpShop, and ZenCart) and free MySQL databases. The MySQL tools for text
file import seem pretty good. I need a simple bridge just to bring in the
product information.

I'm pretty good with web development, and a bit of a control freak. What I
need is reall bare bones. Anyone else out there roll thier own solutions
yet?
 
T

TomT

Try setting the location of the Pictures up as a read only FTP site.
Then append the FTP info in front of the picture name when you upload to
your website.
That way the site will always pick up the must current image and you don't
have to
transfer the actual images, just reference them.
 
G

gangreen2

Jason, there is a one way version of the Web Integrator that I'm aware
of, maybe you should discuss that option with Kosmos and Newestech?
If you only need to upload your inventory and images and not need the
download of orders, why not see if that's an option?

A. Duck
 
C

Chris Allsopp - Connaught House

I already have a website, and have the ability to import to it all of the
stock records from RMS.

I need to know how.

Ideally, this will be coding them up as a "Webitem" and then running a
report, and then exporting from here.

I will also be able to use the reports to see the sales and stock for the
webstie

Any idea how I can integrate the column in to a standard report such as
Master Price List? I added the following column, but it doesn't like it:


Begin Column
FieldName = "Item.WebItem"
DrillDownFieldName = ""
DrillDownReportName = ""
StoreIDFieldName = ""
Title = "WebItem"
VBDataType = vbBoolean
Formula = "(Item.Webitem)"
ColHidden = True
ColNotDisplayable = False
FilterDisabled = False
ColWidth = 1605
GroupMethod = groupmethodNone
ColFormat = ""
End Column
 
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Jeff @ Check Point Software

Chris,

If you are _using_ the Price List as a model, it's already there. You can turn it on by right clicking on the body of the report, Show/Hide Columns and check the WebItem checkbox.


For another report, make sure that the Item table is joined and add the following;

Begin Column
FieldName = "Item.WebItem"
DrillDownFieldName = ""
DrillDownReportName = ""
Title = "Web Item"
VBDataType = vbBoolean
Formula = ""
ColHidden = True
ColNotDisplayable = False
FilterDisabled = False
ColWidth = 1000
GroupMethod = groupmethodNone
ColFormat = ""
ColAlignment = flexAlignLeftCenter
End Column


--

Jeff
Check Point Software

=====================================================

You must be using Outlook Express/Windows Mail or some other type of newsgroup reader to
see and download the file attachment(s). If you are not using a reader, follow
the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader"
under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

http://tinyurl.com/75bgz
=====================================================

I already have a website, and have the ability to import to it all of the
stock records from RMS.

I need to know how.

Ideally, this will be coding them up as a "Webitem" and then running a
report, and then exporting from here.

I will also be able to use the reports to see the sales and stock for the
webstie

Any idea how I can integrate the column in to a standard report such as
Master Price List? I added the following column, but it doesn't like it:


Begin Column
FieldName = "Item.WebItem"
DrillDownFieldName = ""
DrillDownReportName = ""
StoreIDFieldName = ""
Title = "WebItem"
VBDataType = vbBoolean
Formula = "(Item.Webitem)"
ColHidden = True
ColNotDisplayable = False
FilterDisabled = False
ColWidth = 1605
GroupMethod = groupmethodNone
ColFormat = ""
End Column
 
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