JSA into bank


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Gary

Hi,

I sign on Mondays and usually get my giro Wednesdays. Last week the Job
centre asked if I had a bank account and asked me to fill a form so my money
went into the bank. Fair enough I thought. Anyway when I signed on today I
asked when the money would be going in and the guy said Thursday, one day
later than I normally get it. Now I budget fortnightly and my electric and
gas meters need to be filled Wednesday, so if I don't get paid Wednesday as
usual I will have no electric and gas ( I have a child and a partner)

Is there anything I can do? I am very annoyed as if I knew my money was
going to be a day later I wouldn't have bothered with the bank. Can I change
payments back to a giro?

Thanks
 
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Gary said:
Hi,

I sign on Mondays and usually get my giro Wednesdays. Last week the Job
centre asked if I had a bank account and asked me to fill a form so my money
went into the bank. Fair enough I thought. Anyway when I signed on today I
asked when the money would be going in and the guy said Thursday, one day
later than I normally get it. Now I budget fortnightly and my electric and
gas meters need to be filled Wednesday, so if I don't get paid Wednesday as
usual I will have no electric and gas ( I have a child and a partner)

Is there anything I can do? I am very annoyed as if I knew my money was
going to be a day later I wouldn't have bothered with the bank. Can I change
payments back to a giro?
the payments go overnight, it just the bank takes 3-4 working days to clear
as with most things. Go into the Job Centre, take proof of your bills and
ask if you can sign on Friday's instead, theres no reason apart from them
not being arsed why they shouldnt change it.
 
F

Frog

the payments go overnight, it just the bank takes 3-4 working days to clear
as with most things. Go into the Job Centre, take proof of your bills and
ask if you can sign on Friday's instead, theres no reason apart from them
not being arsed why they shouldnt change it.
The fault is not with the banks, the DSS/JC should take into account
the banking delay in payments being made. After more than one late
payment when it happend to me I complained, after that I noticed
my benefit was in my bank account TWO days befor its due date, if
there was a bank holiday monday, then often it was in my bank
a whole THREE or FOUR days early.

So the fault is with the DSS/JC.
 
Frog said:
The fault is not with the banks, the DSS/JC should take into account
the banking delay in payments being made. After more than one late
payment when it happend to me I complained, after that I noticed
my benefit was in my bank account TWO days befor its due date, if
there was a bank holiday monday, then often it was in my bank
a whole THREE or FOUR days early.

So the fault is with the DSS/JC.
"fault" there is no fault, you sign on, the Job Centre people acknowlegde
this in their screen, this triggers the payment to go overnight whether by
giro or ACT so there is no fault. Somehow i don't think it would be a good
idea to advance payments before people sign on. The ACT payments take 3-4
days because of the BANK so stop talking bullshit ffs.
 
F

Frog

"fault" there is no fault, you sign on, the Job Centre people acknowlegde
this in their screen, this triggers the payment to go overnight whether by
giro or ACT so there is no fault. Somehow i don't think it would be a good
idea to advance payments before people sign on. The ACT payments take 3-4
days because of the BANK so stop talking bullshit ffs.
Listen clerk, benefit payment days ARE benefit payment days.

If YOU are late in making payment then YOU are at fault.

If the claiment incurs bank charges because of late payment
then YOU the DSS/JC pay the costs, I know this to be true
as it happened to me.

So DON'T BLODDY LIE.
 
F

Frog

the payments go overnight, it just the bank takes 3-4 working days to clear
as with most things. Go into the Job Centre, take proof of your bills and
ask if you can sign on Friday's instead, theres no reason apart from them
not being arsed why they shouldnt change it.
No, AGAIN, where are they recruiting you clerks from?.

It is up to the DSS/JC to ensure as far as possible that payments
are made on the DUE date. Failure to do so may involve the DSS/JC
having to pay the claiment any costs incured by late payment.

The DSS/JC, as they did in my case can submit payment earlier
so as no costs will ensue and the claiment does not suffer
distress through late payment.

All it takes is a little thought and brain power but I do
realise those things are in short supply at the DSS/JC.


Jesus Christ, is it any wonder the DSS/JC are in such dissaray
when you got clerks like this workinh for them.


Bloody Clerks.
 
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Frog said:
Listen clerk, benefit payment days ARE benefit payment days.

If YOU are late in making payment then YOU are at fault.

If the claiment incurs bank charges because of late payment
then YOU the DSS/JC pay the costs, I know this to be true
as it happened to me.

So DON'T BLODDY LIE.
yes i know they do but its not late and its not a fault! Why you cannot see
that is beyond me. I aint no clerk!
 
Frog said:
No, AGAIN, where are they recruiting you clerks from?.

It is up to the DSS/JC to ensure as far as possible that payments
are made on the DUE date. Failure to do so may involve the DSS/JC
having to pay the claiment any costs incured by late payment.

The DSS/JC, as they did in my case can submit payment earlier
so as no costs will ensue and the claiment does not suffer
distress through late payment.

All it takes is a little thought and brain power but I do
realise those things are in short supply at the DSS/JC.


Jesus Christ, is it any wonder the DSS/JC are in such dissaray
when you got clerks like this workinh for them.


Bloody Clerks.
OMFG where did they get you from? Payments are made on the due date. Its
then up to royal mail or someones bank to sort out. It is not a late payment
ffs as its sent out on time. My god your brain is full of shite.
 
Frog said:
If a claiment does not recieve their benefit on the DUE date then
it IS a LATE payment in the case of bank payments. I know CLERK
cos it happened to ME on more than one occasion and the DSS
sent me a form to fill in and requested my bank statements
showing any an all costs incured. So don't tell me I don't know
what I'm talking about, your just a clerk, I'm not talking to
a clerk, is there a manager there?.


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.
how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i pay for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that thing as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day therefore
they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out ON THE DAY. I am not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all day who phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train you on JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for some idiot try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit 'clerks' out
there, i know, but they may seem shit to you because you do not understand
something that is beyond your comprehension, thats not your fault. I got out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.
 
YOU ARE A CLERK, nothing less and nothing more.

If payment is late then it IS a fault.
Whats the point of making the system send out a payment when someone has not
signed yet? (barring when it is advanced for holidays etc..)
Do you not think this would be stupid? Do you think everyone should just
come in and pick it up the day they sign? Oh yes i can imagine the fun that
would cause. You need to get this late payment idea out of your head.
 
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Tony said:
<snip 3,683 bytes of useless reposted quotes that should have been
killfiled>

Children, please. One would assume that, as:

1 - a JSA claimant*
2 - a working adult*
3 - an adult who has never grown up*

adolescence would now be all but a distant memory. But alas...
not a TOO distant memory.
 
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anthonyberet

Frog said:
No, AGAIN, where are they recruiting you clerks from?.

It is up to the DSS/JC to ensure as far as possible that payments
are made on the DUE date. Failure to do so may involve the DSS/JC
having to pay the claiment any costs incured by late payment.

The DSS/JC, as they did in my case can submit payment earlier
so as no costs will ensue and the claiment does not suffer
distress through late payment.

All it takes is a little thought and brain power but I do
realise those things are in short supply at the DSS/JC.


Jesus Christ, is it any wonder the DSS/JC are in such dissaray
when you got clerks like this workinh for them.
heheh, I suppose the JC could make people sign-on earlier to make the
payment arrive on time.
The signing day is arbitrary, chosen for the alphabetical placing of your
name, or similar (spaced out so Q's aren't so big).
On the other hand, the OP could have originally got his giro on the
Thursday, so it isn't 'wrong' as such that it changed.
 
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anthonyberet

Frog said:
Yes you can revert back to a giro. If they try and say you can't
then tell them you bloody well can and thats what you want.

If your benefit due day is Wednesady but your payments are
made to your bank one day late,
There is no "due day" as such :(
 
F

Frog

[snipped]
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.
how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i pay for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that thing as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day therefore
they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out ON THE DAY. I am not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all day who phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train you on JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for some idiot try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit 'clerks' out
there, i know, but they may seem shit to you because you do not understand
something that is beyond your comprehension, thats not your fault. I got out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.
I bet they were glad to see the back of you. I'm sure the service at
your ex office has improved since your departure.

You behave like a shower, so you will be treated like a shower...

You are an absolute rotter.
 
F

Frog

anthonyberet said:
heheh, I suppose the JC could make people sign-on earlier to make the
payment arrive on time.
The signing day is arbitrary, chosen for the alphabetical placing of your
name, or similar (spaced out so Q's aren't so big).
On the other hand, the OP could have originally got his giro on the
Thursday, so it isn't 'wrong' as such that it changed.
When it happend to me, I was signing once a fortnight, so theres
no reason whatsoever for a payment to be made late into a bank account
as there is ample time to authorise payment. The DSS/JC know full
well the time it takes for payments to go through the banking system.

In reply to your other post, my DSS certainly did consider my
due day as being the day I should recieve payment. When that
payment was late, on more than one occasion, I complained and
they responded by putting my payments through the banking system
TWO days earlier, even earlier than that if there was a bank
holiday monday.

What these clerks fail to even remotely comprehend or understand
is that claiments actualy rely on this money being paid promptly,
yes I know it sounds terible that a claiment would like their
payments to be made prompt and on time, how awfull, what a cheek.

But claiments can be left in dire straights if their benefit is
even one day late. The cavalier attitude by the above clerk/rotter
should be stamped on, they have no idea.
 
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When it happend to me, I was signing once a fortnight, so theres
no reason whatsoever for a payment to be made late into a bank account
as there is ample time to authorise payment. The DSS/JC know full
well the time it takes for payments to go through the banking system.
Yes, 3-4 working days.
In reply to your other post, my DSS certainly did consider my
due day as being the day I should recieve payment. When that
payment was late, on more than one occasion, I complained and
they responded by putting my payments through the banking system
TWO days earlier, even earlier than that if there was a bank
holiday monday.
the payment is not late ffs.
What these clerks fail to even remotely comprehend or understand
is that claiments actualy rely on this money being paid promptly,
yes I know it sounds terible that a claiment would like their
payments to be made prompt and on time, how awfull, what a cheek.
the payments are made on time, i will keep saying this as long as i need to,
other people can understand why cant you? Or maybe thats why you cant get a
job right?

But claiments can be left in dire straights if their benefit is
even one day late. The cavalier attitude by the above clerk/rotter
should be stamped on, they have no idea.
JSAPS has been going for years, its not the 'clerks' idea to have JSAPS pay
into the bank or by giro. Its not the 'clerks' fault that royal mail take 2
days to deliver mail nor is it their fault that banks take 3 days so get a
f'ing grip, stop spouting shit because your causing your pathetic mind to
bubble.
 
Frog said:
[snipped]
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.
how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i pay for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that thing as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day therefore
they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out ON THE DAY. I am not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all day who phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train you on JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for some idiot try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit 'clerks' out
there, i know, but they may seem shit to you because you do not understand
something that is beyond your comprehension, thats not your fault. I got out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.
I bet they were glad to see the back of you. I'm sure the service at
your ex office has improved since your departure.

You behave like a shower, so you will be treated like a shower...

You are an absolute rotter.
im still at the same office, you are insane.
 
if they actioned their dialogue to send out payment BEFORE you had signed
then this is illegal and if you give me the office name i shall report it.
 
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F

Frog

Frog said:
[snipped]


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.

how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i pay for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that thing as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day therefore
they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out ON THE DAY. I am not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all day who phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train you on JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for some idiot try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit 'clerks' out
there, i know, but they may seem shit to you because you do not understand
something that is beyond your comprehension, thats not your fault. I got out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.
I bet they were glad to see the back of you. I'm sure the service at
your ex office has improved since your departure.

You behave like a shower, so you will be treated like a shower...

You are an absolute rotter.
im still at the same office, you are insane.
I thought you said you had left, more dissinformation.

Your still a ROTTER. You clerk!.
 

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