JSA into bank


Frog said:
Frog said:
[snipped]


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.

how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i pay for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that
thing
as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day therefore
they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out ON THE DAY. I
am
not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all day
who
phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train you
on
JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for some
idiot
try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit 'clerks' out
there, i know, but they may seem shit to you because you do not understand
something that is beyond your comprehension, thats not your fault. I
got
out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.

I bet they were glad to see the back of you. I'm sure the service at
your ex office has improved since your departure.

You behave like a shower, so you will be treated like a shower...

You are an absolute rotter.
im still at the same office, you are insane.
I thought you said you had left, more dissinformation.
ive left the dept but im still a very civil servant.
 
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Frog said:
it.

You are a complete and utter rotter.

It is paid out in arrears anyway so how the bloody hell can
they pay you late. And after I complained they always managed to
have my benefit in the bank on time, as I have said now three
times to you clerk.

So I know they can do it, it just means lazy good for nothing clerks
like you have to get up off your backsides and do some work.
it would mean them paying you BEFORE you were due and BEFORE you signed on.
This is what happens.

1. You walk into the Job Centre on your signing day.
2. You sign on for the last weeks to say that you have been available for
work and all that bullshit. Then the JC staff enter that into their screen.
3. This screen is a trigger for payments. The payments will then go out
overnight.
4. If someone is entering that screen BEFORE you sign then that activity is
illegal as when you sign you are declaring all that rubbish therefore noone
can assume this for you. The payment is issued on the due date as this is
when it is DUE, you may not get it on this date. Tough shit.

This to me seems so simple i have no idea why you find it hard to
understand, ive tried to explain it the simplest way possible. You are
simply wrong Frog and you are making yourself look stupid, i feel embaressed
for you when i read your posts. Only at a managers discretion should you
have the money on the same day. We have 4000 people at our Job Centre
signing on who do not seem to have a problem with this!
 
Frog said:
[snipped]


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.

how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i
pay
I
you
I
got

I thought you said you had left, more dissinformation.
ive left the dept but im still a very civil servant.
in case you dont understand their are many different deps in one building.
 
F

Frog

news:[email protected] [snipped]
So I know they can do it, it just means lazy good for nothing clerks
like you have to get up off your backsides and do some work.
it would mean them paying you BEFORE you were due and BEFORE you signed on.
This is what happens.

1. You walk into the Job Centre on your signing day.
2. You sign on for the last weeks to say that you have been available for
work and all that bullshit. Then the JC staff enter that into their screen.
3. This screen is a trigger for payments. The payments will then go out
overnight.
4. If someone is entering that screen BEFORE you sign then that activity is
illegal as when you sign you are declaring all that rubbish therefore noone
can assume this for you. The payment is issued on the due date as this is
when it is DUE, you may not get it on this date. Tough shit.

This to me seems so simple i have no idea why you find it hard to
understand, ive tried to explain it the simplest way possible. You are
simply wrong Frog and you are making yourself look stupid, i feel embaressed
for you when i read your posts. Only at a managers discretion should you
have the money on the same day. We have 4000 people at our Job Centre
signing on who do not seem to have a problem with this!
Listen you clerk don't you call me stupid, when I signed on I
signed on on a Monday, my benefit was then paid into my bank
account the following Tuesday, yes over a week away, and they
even got that late, sometimes it would not be in my bank till
the Thursday, I complained, listen clerk I dont know how many
times I need to say this to you but this is definately the
last time rigth, after I complained they never was late on
paying me again, I had the same trouble with those clerks
at the DSS, no doubt relatives of yours, exactly the same problem
with late payments, I complained to them and lo and behold payments
then went in on time.

So if they can get my payments in on time after a complaint
then you and the rest of you clerks can do it for everyone.
Your just incompetent and lazy.

So don't you bloody sit there and tell me I don't know what I'm
talking about. I have been there and done it.

And snip posts, or get some one to do it for you.
 
R

Rob

martin said:
regarding postal girocheque's; it amazes me that the DWP are stupid enough
to send out vital monies unregistered as slow as possible. The cheque should
arrive the next day recorded delivery, its absurd.
1. It's not vital to them. (remember some of them think "if you don't get it
on time-tough shit"
2. It's not their money.
 
like this? Because your so poor you are probably on dial-up and you feel the
pain of every kb. I will snip posts when i damn well think they are long
enough.
 
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martin said:
regarding postal girocheque's; it amazes me that the DWP are stupid enough
to send out vital monies unregistered as slow as possible. The cheque should
arrive the next day recorded delivery, its absurd.
omfg think of the cost, they can be sent out recorded in special occasions,
think of the ammount though here.
 
Rob said:
1. It's not vital to them. (remember some of them think "if you don't get it
on time-tough shit"
That is indeed what i think because if its gone from us on time, thats the
job done.
2. It's not their money.
I think you will find my hard earned taxes make up this money so do not tell
me its no my money, i have more right to it than some f'in scummer who has
never worked.*



*I have met many genuine Jobseekers as well.
 
Listen you clerk don't you call me stupid,
my names Liam no clerk, stupid.

when I signed on I
signed on on a Monday, my benefit was then paid into my bank
account the following Tuesday,
well this was indeed a joke, it should be there Thursday you would have a
right to be pissed off.

yes over a week away, and they
even got that late, sometimes it would not be in my bank till
the Thursday, I complained, listen clerk I dont know how many
times I need to say this to you but this is definately the
last time rigth, after I complained they never was late on
paying me again, I had the same trouble with those clerks
at the DSS, no doubt relatives of yours, exactly the same problem
with late payments, I complained to them and lo and behold payments
then went in on time.

So if they can get my payments in on time after a complaint
then you and the rest of you clerks can do it for everyone.
Your just incompetent and lazy.
i may well be lazy but incompetent? Nah sorry. Look 'mate' at the end of the
day your Job Centre was doing something dodgy. This can not be done for
everyone because of this. You can speak to Mr DWP and take it up to the
House Of Lords or some shit.
So don't you bloody sit there and tell me I don't know what I'm
talking about. I have been there and done it.
You just signed on loser, i work around animals like you all day who think
they know something when they know SHIT.
 
Pat Winstanley said:
I suppose benefit receipients who particularly want that
special/recorded/registered delivery could have the cost of such
deducted from the amount sent to them... (they, rather than the
taxpayers generally, pay the extra admin cost and postage charge...).
if they were getting money from their giro then i dont think they would
continue to like the idea :)
 
P

Pat Winstanley

omfg think of the cost, they can be sent out recorded in special occasions,
think of the ammount though here.
I suppose benefit receipients who particularly want that
special/recorded/registered delivery could have the cost of such
deducted from the amount sent to them... (they, rather than the
taxpayers generally, pay the extra admin cost and postage charge...).
 
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anthonyberet

Gary said:
Hi,

I sign on Mondays and usually get my giro Wednesdays. Last week the
Job centre asked if I had a bank account and asked me to fill a form
so my money went into the bank. Fair enough I thought. Anyway when I
signed on today I asked when the money would be going in and the guy
said Thursday, one day later than I normally get it. Now I budget
fortnightly and my electric and gas meters need to be filled
Wednesday, so if I don't get paid Wednesday as usual I will have no
electric and gas ( I have a child and a partner)

Is there anything I can do? I am very annoyed as if I knew my money
was going to be a day later I wouldn't have bothered with the bank.
Can I change payments back to a giro?
This thread has turned into something of a slanging-match, but there is
something you can do.
-Ask to have your signing day changed to the preceeding Friday. Then there
will be an extra day for the bank to sort it out and pay you on the day you
need.
-The JC might not want to change your signing day, but actually, there is no
reason why they can't, and it is very simple to do from their point of view.
 
A

anthonyberet

Frog said:
[snipped]


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR PROFFESION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
THAT THE DSS/JC CAN WELL DO WITHOUT.

how can the payment be late if it is sent on the due date. Say i
pay
for
something online i wait two days to get it. I am legally due that thing
as
soon as they take my money but they may well send it on that day
therefore they have done their bit. It is not late. Its sent out
ON THE DAY.
I
am
not
a clerk as I do not like to listen to thick shits like you all
day who
phone
up spouting absolute bollocks all day for shit money. They train
you
on
JSA
for like 16 weeks then you do the job day in day out only for
some idiot
try
and tell you what your doing. Yes there are a lot of shit
'clerks' out there, i know, but they may seem shit to you
because you do not understand something that is beyond your
comprehension, thats not your fault.
I
got
out
of that because of people like you. Now I can sit on my arse all day
sorting
out IT probs with noone to tell me anything.

I bet they were glad to see the back of you. I'm sure the service
at your ex office has improved since your departure.

You behave like a shower, so you will be treated like a shower...

You are an absolute rotter.

im still at the same office, you are insane.

I thought you said you had left, more dissinformation.
ive left the dept but im still a very civil servant.
in case you dont understand their are many different deps in one
building.
So are you an ESSA now?
(or whatever they call it now)
 
anthonyberet said:
This thread has turned into something of a slanging-match, but there is
something you can do.
-Ask to have your signing day changed to the preceeding Friday. Then there
will be an extra day for the bank to sort it out and pay you on the day you
need.
-The JC might not want to change your signing day, but actually, there is no
reason why they can't, and it is very simple to do from their point of view.
but Beret he is wrong man, put him/her/it out of their misery and tell em
:)
 
P

Pat Winstanley

Subject: Re: JSA into bank
From: "martin" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security



i dont necessarily mind the money arriving 2 days after so long as the
schedule is kept and my money arrives. i dont like the idea of money being
sent with nary a care in the world.
So the simplest thing is to have it transferred directly to a bank
account of some sort from which you then draw it (at your local post
office or wherever else is most convenient for you), thus avoiding any
chance if the payment being lost or stolen in the post... and bank
transfer records are far more likely to be able to showe what has gone
wrong (if there is a glitch) than the post office and their manual
transfer of a physical object.

If you go for bank transfer the only time the payment becomes physical
is when you draw cash from your account.

By the way, in 5+ years of having various benefits from time to time
paid directly into my bank account, I am not aware of any time that a
payment has been lost or become available for the first time *after* the
bank clearance says it should have done. Sometimes it's a little early
(round bank holidays etc) but never late.
 
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Frog

my names Liam no clerk, stupid.
Your a clerk, and a very stupid and rotten clerk.
when I signed on I

well this was indeed a joke, it should be there Thursday you would have a
right to be pissed off.
I wasnt pissed off!. As long as I can remember I have always had
my benefit paid on every second tuesday, that was not the problem
I was happy with that.
yes over a week away, and they

i may well be lazy but incompetent? Nah sorry. Look 'mate' at the end of the
day your Job Centre was doing something dodgy. This can not be done for
everyone because of this. You can speak to Mr DWP and take it up to the
House Of Lords or some shit.
There was nothing dodgy about it, they were just incompetent.

Theres no one at home is there clerk?, all the lights have gone out
at your end. Go see a doctor or something, you need help, you cannot
even understand what is being said to you.

You just signed on loser, i work around animals like you all day who think
they know something when they know SHIT.
I think you yourself have shown yourself up as the one who doesnt know
what they are talking about in this thread.

You must be the worst clerk I have ever come across.
 
M

martin

omfg think of the cost, they can be sent out recorded in special occasions,
think of the ammount though here.
perhaps the amount lost in missing/stolen cheques or wasteful practises
(throughout the entire civil service) would help.
 
M

martin

I suppose benefit receipients who particularly want that
special/recorded/registered delivery could have the cost of such
deducted from the amount sent to them... (they, rather than the
taxpayers generally, pay the extra admin cost and postage charge...).
i dont necessarily mind the money arriving 2 days after so long as the
schedule is kept and my money arrives. i dont like the idea of money being
sent with nary a care in the world.
 
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Mike

Rob said:
1. It's not vital to them. (remember some of them think "if you don't get it
on time-tough shit"
2. It's not their money.
Who would "they" be? The processor or signing clerk can't send your
payment recorded delivery, it's in their intrest for your payment to arrive
on time because if you get it you don't moan and their life is easier. It's
a policy decision probably taken several decades ago as sending it recorded
delivery would dramatically increase the costs. Recorded delivery may be
more secure (though not perfect!) but it's no quicker.
I don't know how many are late or not received nationally but it must be a
very very small percentage judging by how often I used to deal with
lost/late complaints compared to the number of people signing each day I
would guess at less than 1%. Of course I don't know how many people got it
late just didn't moan.
Bank payments are much more reliable as the payment will always arrive four
working days (mo-fri) after it is sent the only exception to this is those
banks/building societies who bank on saturdays. I have never seen an ACT
payment arrive late, if the details are wrong it doesn't arrive and I can
only ever remember one faliure of the ACT system a few years ago which
affected not just benefit but all payments to certain banks. They will of
corse not be affected by the threatened postal strike.
Your payment is a hundred times more likely to be late because of processing
difficulties, your signings has not been input or the bank details are
wrong. As the first two reasons are going to delay giro's as well and the
third will only affect the first payment (if you check for receipt of
course!) then overall it's a far more reliable system. The only caveat I
would add to that statements is my comments about the Nationwide I have made
in an earlier thread, they do seem to reject correct payments from time to
time.

Mike
 

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