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Ste Kearney

Possibly wrong group for this question, apologies if so, but anyway....

I am a single parent, five kids, work from home, just need a phone line and
internet access. Lucky me but same four walls drive you nuts, as do the kids
now it's the summer holidays......

I do need to jet around the UK occasionally on site, usually using a
low-cost airline like Easyjet or BMI. So it occurred to me maybe I could try
living somewhere in Europe. Aside from the reasons for doing so, and
dragging the kids about on a whim, I wonder what other EU countries offer
things like our Tax Credits, Child Benefit etc. Anyone aware of any sites
that show this info country by country?

Yeah, u guessed it, fed up with UK - be fine next week!

Steve
 
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Robbie

From: Ste Kearney (e-mail address removed)
Date: 13/07/04 18:47 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id: <BD19DED9.9F74%[email protected]>

Possibly wrong group for this question, apologies if so, but anyway....

I am a single parent, five kids, work from home, just need a phone line and
internet access. Lucky me but same four walls drive you nuts, as do the kids
now it's the summer holidays......

I do need to jet around the UK occasionally on site, usually using a
low-cost airline like Easyjet or BMI. So it occurred to me maybe I could try
living somewhere in Europe. Aside from the reasons for doing so, and
dragging the kids about on a whim, I wonder what other EU countries offer
things like our Tax Credits, Child Benefit etc. Anyone aware of any sites
that show this info country by country?

Yeah, u guessed it, fed up with UK - be fine next week!

Steve
To my knowledge - none!

You need to be resident in a country for a certain length of time before you
can claim the equivalent of tax credits - for example, in France it's one year,
and working through the whole of that year.

The UK is the only country I'm aware of that allows a claim for a tax credit to
be made in advance of the end of the tax year.

Looks like you'll have to put up with the miserable weather for a little bit
longer ;)

As for Child Benefit, I don't think any other EU country pays an equivalent
benefit.
 
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Andy Pandy

Robbie said:
To my knowledge - none!

You need to be resident in a country for a certain length of time before you
can claim the equivalent of tax credits - for example, in France it's one year,
and working through the whole of that year.

The UK is the only country I'm aware of that allows a claim for a tax credit to
be made in advance of the end of the tax year.

Looks like you'll have to put up with the miserable weather for a little bit
longer ;)

As for Child Benefit, I don't think any other EU country pays an equivalent
benefit.
No need. Most European countries have a decent tax system, unlike here, such as
tax allowances for non-earning family members which can be used against the
earner's income. These are far better, fairer, simpler, and more valuable to
families than our crappy system of tax credits and benefits. A family with a
single earner on an average salary would be better off in most Europeans
countries simply by virtue of their income tax system - without needing to claim
any benefits or tax credits.
 
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Ste Kearney

Possibly wrong group for this question, apologies if so, but anyway....
No need. Most European countries have a decent tax system, unlike here, such
as
tax allowances for non-earning family members which can be used against the
earner's income. These are far better, fairer, simpler, and more valuable to
families than our crappy system of tax credits and benefits. A family with a
single earner on an average salary would be better off in most Europeans
countries simply by virtue of their income tax system - without needing to
claim
any benefits or tax credits.
Ur right Andy, Tax credits is a fudge system to me it seems. Do u have any
links I can peruse? I seem to rememebr reading France has unlimited
Maternity leave and effectively zero taxation for families to encourage a
reverse of the declining population.

Would be interesting to see comparisons of all EU countries, I still feel
Blighty is where I'm fated to live but it's nice to have options. And find a
frigging dentist.

Steve
 
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Andy Pandy

Ste Kearney said:
Ur right Andy, Tax credits is a fudge system to me it seems. Do u have any
links I can peruse? I seem to rememebr reading France has unlimited
Maternity leave and effectively zero taxation for families to encourage a
reverse of the declining population.
AIUI in France each family gets a tax allowance per adult, half a tax allowance
for the first 2 kids, then a full tax allowance for any further kids. So a
single parent with 5 kids would get 5 tax allowances. Income is divided by the
number of allowances before being allocated to the progressive tax bands, so the
marginal tax rate on families is lower than on single people (the opposite is
true here where families have much higher effective marginal tax rates than
single people due to the tax credits withdrawal rate).

The French "inland revenue" have a tax calculator which you may find useful
(although I think there are social security type taxes which it doesn't work out
for you):

http://www2.finances.gouv.fr/calcul_impot/2004/simplifie/calc_2003_simplifie.htm
 
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Ste Kearney said:
Possibly wrong group for this question, apologies if so, but anyway....

I am a single parent, five kids, work from home, just need a phone line and
internet access. Lucky me but same four walls drive you nuts, as do the kids
now it's the summer holidays......

I do need to jet around the UK occasionally on site, usually using a
low-cost airline like Easyjet or BMI. So it occurred to me maybe I could try
living somewhere in Europe. Aside from the reasons for doing so, and
dragging the kids about on a whim, I wonder what other EU countries offer
things like our Tax Credits, Child Benefit etc. Anyone aware of any sites
that show this info country by country?

Yeah, u guessed it, fed up with UK - be fine next week!

Steve

Might be an idea to find out from you which European languages you speak.
Not the easiest thing living in a country where you don't know the language.
 
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Ste Kearney

Possibly wrong group for this question, apologies if so, but anyway....
Might be an idea to find out from you which European languages you speak.
Not the easiest thing living in a country where you don't know the language.
I previously lived in France for three months, no probs with language then
although it was a while ago. I can speak passable Swedish, used to work for
a Swedish Company, and some Russian due to being a bit of a Communist in my
student days. Russian language and literature is my current interest/hobby.
I remember hobbies and interests from when I was younger so I got myself
one!

I just had a month in Russia in the South Urals hardly any English speakers
at all. I managed perfectly, Russian improved enormously.

Don't fancy living in Russia though, can't get used to the bribe culture.
Plus it's not EU although anything's possible over there if you pay
'bzyatka'

My work is in English though so I don't see why language is a huge problem.
More of a challenge and a life experience for me and the kids.

Poka!

Steve
 
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Andy Pandy

Ste Kearney said:
I previously lived in France for three months, no probs with language then
although it was a while ago. I can speak passable Swedish, used to work for
a Swedish Company, and some Russian due to being a bit of a Communist in my
student days. Russian language and literature is my current interest/hobby.
I remember hobbies and interests from when I was younger so I got myself
one!
With 5 kids Sweden might be a good choice, although I think you get benefits
there for children rather than tax allowances so there may be a wait. Language
shouldn't be too much of a problem, if you get stuck most people over 12 and
under 60 can speak excellent English. When I was a kid I used to spend 4-5 weeks
every other year in Sweden with my grandparents and I could speak pretty well by
the end of those weeks, kids pick up the languages pretty quickly.
 

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