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Lynn Ringuette

I found and copied a file called mymoney0.mny to the
JumpDrive, clicked it on. I got a screen asking what I
wanted to open it with. Selected Money. It went through
the installation questions. Said it would keep a copy of
my old version of Money. Went through the conversion,
but nothing is there. The file contains approx. 2.1 MB.
I also have a My Money Backup d1 and a My Money0 Backup.
 
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Dick Watson

I guess there are lots of things here that I don't understand.

I don't know why the new system would ask you what you want to open a .MNY
file with. If Money is properly installed, it should have registered the
..MNY extension. Was Money not already installed on the new system when you
started this?

If you double click the file (the one you copied to the new system) on your
old system does it open with your data???
 
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Lynn Ringuette

I don't understand why it asked me that either. I had
never seen that before. I called Compaq back and I
reinstalled the Money 2003. After I did get that
box 'asking what I wanted to open a file with' that
already had the .mny, I did get further along in the
transfer of files process than I had ever gotten before.
It kept saying 'working' and 'converting' but nothing was
there when done. It looked like a 'brand new Money.' My
favorites nor any of my files were there.

If I click the bakup, or the db1, or the .mny files that
I created and copied from the JumpDrive to the C drive it
does open Money 2003, execept that first attempt at
the .mny when it asked the question. But no data is ever
there, whether using the restore backup from File or
using Open from File and then chosing .mny.

I agree getting the first message with the .mny extension
was a stumper.

I am not going to open Money again until I pop for the
35.00 and call MSFT. (I did reinstall Money 2003 from
the restore on Compaq Quick Restore) MSFT toll free said
it was Compaq's problem as they've paid them to help new
users with software that OEM. (This computer is only 5
days old) Compaq says it works to thier satisfaction and
it's my problem.

It's pretty exasperating as I've been trying this all
day. I don't get errors on Money 2003. It keeps working
and converting no matter which file I use, then stops
working and none of my personal data is there.

Thanks for trying to help me. I know those files are
there, both on the JumpDrive and my C: Drive.
 
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Dick Watson

Please answer three questions (you may have already answered the first one
of these, I can't remember):

1) Version and locale of the old Money installation on your old machine.
2) Can you open your old Money file in the old version on the old machine
and see your data?
3) Can you open the sample file with the new Money version on the new
machine and, once open, does it look right?
 
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Lynn Ringuette

Thanks for sticking with me. I was online with MSFT on
hold for 1 hour and 45 minutes after I paid the 35.00
last night and never got in. I do have a case # though
and I can continue trying them.

The answer to your questions:

1, my old version is Money 99. (I can turn it on and
look up where it is, what exactly are you wanting to
know?)

2, Yes, the old version works and is still up to date on
the old machine and worst case I can continue using as
is. I also have 3 backup floppies up to date.

3, Yes, I opened the sample of Money 2003, saw things
like the Woodgrove Bank checking balance and water bills
and such.

I do appreciate your help. I have been using Money since
the '80's when it came as OEM with a Columbia computer.
Remember them? I am stumped by what should be a seemless
transfer of data.

Thanks, Lynn
 
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Dick Watson

So, it sound like you have a good M03 installation and lots of room to
recover here. This is all good.

Were I you, I'd first be very sure that I have good copies backed up in
several forms of the now working M99 data file. When things get ugly they
have a nasty tendency to get worse. That's your path back to access to your
data in M99.

Go into the existing data file on the old version on the old machine. Do a
File|Open and from this dialog box figure out where--what directory--it is
looking for the file. Note the Money files already in this directory. Is
this/are these the one(s) you copied to the JumpDrive and then to the new
computer/version? If not, try copying these over to the new machine/version
with the JumpDrive.

Have you tried msmoney -s **on a copy** of your Money file on the M99
machine and then tired copying this repaired copy over to the new
machine/version? (I believe msmoney -s works on the most recently opened
file. Given this, make the copy of the data file in Windows Explorer. Double
click on the copy. After it opens, exit Money--now the most recently opened
file will be the copy. Run msmoney -s.

Have you tried downloading the current salv.exe tool and running it **on a
copy** of your Money file on the M99 machine and then tired copying this
salvaged copy over to the new machine/version?

If you need more on msmoney -s and salv, see the FAQ or the MSKB or post
back.
 
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Lynn Ringuette

I am on my way to recovering all! Yeah! I am so
excited. I got through to MSFT. There was an error in
the '99 version in a .dll file. The only way to overcome
this problem is to export and import each file
individually. I did my largest and most used file, a
checking account and it took about 45 minutes, but it did
work. My register shows entries back to 1992, just like
the '99 version. They all must be named the same in 03
as 99, so it's important to check this correctly.

I appreciate your responses to me. Maybe what I told you
will help you help someone else. It is possible to go 03
from 99 if you've got the old data even if there's an
obscure error.

I'm taking 2-3 files at a time, putting them on the
JumpDrive so I can be careful and deliberate. I have
about 50 files. (acccounts)

Thanks again.
 
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Dick Watson

I hope this works out for you. It's kinda the "when all else fails" way to
get your case closed on Microsoft's part. It will get you there, but you
will lose all kinds of data like payee information, custom categories,
scheduled bills, etc.

You might try some of the other methods as well. They may not be as
foolproof as the Export/Import route, and they may not work at all, but if
they do, you will get much better overall results.
 
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Cal Learner-- MVP

I am on my way to recovering all! Yeah! I am so
excited. I got through to MSFT. There was an error in
the '99 version in a .dll file. The only way to overcome
this problem is to export and import each file
individually. I did my largest and most used file, a
checking account and it took about 45 minutes, but it did
work. My register shows entries back to 1992, just like
the '99 version. They all must be named the same in 03
as 99, so it's important to check this correctly.

I appreciate your responses to me. Maybe what I told you
will help you help someone else. It is possible to go 03
from 99 if you've got the old data even if there's an
obscure error.

I'm taking 2-3 files at a time, putting them on the
JumpDrive so I can be careful and deliberate. I have
about 50 files. (acccounts)
Let me get this straight. You have an older computer with a working
install of Money 99. You can move .mny files and/or backup files to
an new computer with Money 2003 installed. The new computer,
however, cannot restore or convert using the files from the old
machine.

MS told you there is an error in a dll file on the old machine, so
the files produced by your old install cannot be used my Money 2003.
There is apparently no way to fix those files, so the best solution
is to do a QIF export of the accounts on the old computer and to
import them all at the same time to the Money 2003 install.

And you are feeling cheerful. Is that about right? I went back to
look at your several recent threads to see if I might be missing
something.

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So maybe I should stop right there while you are feeling good.
Collecting the qif files at this point to the new machine sounds
like a good idea for safety, but I wonder if you really have to give
on the actual Money file. This probably won't work easier, but QIF
import has its limitations beyond the effort.

What I am wondering is if you were to put a version of salv.exe over
on the old machine, could it produce a .mny file you could
successfully convert on the new machine. Perhaps the version on your
Money 2003 disk would work or perhaps the newest one available from
the MS web site would be better.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;274584 has
the info.

If you do the QIF import thing, Richard Bollar has discovered that
it is better that the investment accounts be imported first in
the process. How? Name the QIF files such that they come first
alphabetically. So you could, for example, lead off each QIF file
name with an underscore. That will alphabetize before numbers and
letters.

And a plus of QIF import is that you will have a clean file.

Another thing I would consider is to install Money 2003 on the old
machine:
1. After you have pulled off the .qif files.
2. Into a different folder

Expect both Money 2003 and Money 99 to both work on the old machine.
Then see if Money 2003 could do the conversion there. OK. So these
may be blind hope, but you might find them worth a try. Or perhaps
installing Money 2000 would convert successfully. Just grasping.
Perhaps acceptance of your fate is the best.

Sorry. Hope this is not the fate of many users.
 
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Lynn Ringuette

I was thinking that this a lot better than where I was,
which was having no Money to use except the old version
of '99 on the old computer.

I'm almost done. You are right that the investment files
are a bit 'hokey' but I can pull them off from the Banks
or Investment firms and clean them up later.
 
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Lynn Ringuette

Hi, I have not lost all the payees or categories. When
I put in that 'monster' checkbook from 1992 it put in all
the categories and payees I had ever created. I put that
in first.

My case is not closed with MSFT. I didn't feel like they
blew me off. They walked me through quite a few of the
transfers and stayed on the phone with me while the
checkbook converted. That took about 45 minutes. They
called me back 2 hours later to see how I was doing.
They left the case open so I could get help with the
Investment files if I need.

I don't think it's as bad as you and Cal seem to think it
is. Some things won't be the same and I'll have to do
over some of it, but sometimes change is good.

Thanks.
 
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AFW

Lynn,
When you get all done, start looking for duplicate postings. When
I completed the same process during an upgrade from 98 to 2000
years ago, all of the "transfer from/to" between accounts were
duplicated as the transactions posted from both account imports.
I ended up deleting one pair (both accounts) of the entries.

If I remember right, the ending balances were correct even with
the duplicates.

Good luck,
 
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Bob Peel, MVP

The trick to avoid problems with inter-account transfers is to make sure
that you import all the relevant QIF files together. When asked which file
to import use Ctrl + click to select them all.
 
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Dick Watson

I'm glad it's working out for you. The truly sad thing is that this is
probably the best, most reliable, thing they have to offer. I'd like to
think that this adds to the file of cases of problems upgrading--M03 has
been the worst release ever in this regard from what I can see--and, since
the time they spent on you cost more than they made selling 100 copies of
the application, they'd sooner or later get the hint that there are some
issues here that need addressed. I'd really like to think that.
 
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Lynn Ringuette

It's really awful. It's getting worse. I answered
another post by mistake a bit higher up. I must have hit
new post by accident and not reply. (I've been with this
computer way too long.) My problems with M03 are like
the Monoliths dividing on Jupiter in 2010. I've only got
one checkbook that's ok. Everytime I delete a dual entry
in the primary checkbook to try to fix it, it deletes the
ones in the secondary checkbooks. (Screws up the credit
cards too.) Unfortunately I had lots of accounts that I
don't even use linked that primary anymore.

I am going to keep the one checkbook that's ok and
delete 'everything' I've done for the last 2 days. I'm
going to work from the old laptop and enter all the
entries beginning with '03 by hand. I will lose years,
but maybe it's time to move on. If I don't think of it
that way I'll make myself nuts.

I've spent 2 1/2 days on this. My family wants dinner
tonight! Lynn
 

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