Money Plus Deluxe "Sunset" Version is Available

[Cal Learner-- MVP]

The Money Plus Deluxe "Sunset" version is available for download.
Go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ and enter "Money Sunset"
into the search box.

This is a version of Money Plus, so it cannot be installed
simultaneously with a regular Money Plus version. It can read and
write Money Plus files, and it can also convert Money 2007 (and
2006 I suspect) Standard, Deluxe or Premium files. It may even
convert the Money Essentials and MSN Money files. The business
version will be posted later. I don't know how it will behave with
a Canadian file.

The Business and Japanese versions will be released too.

Please post your experience.

 

[Johnny Fields]

Thank you for letting me know this. I will try it at home. However, I have a
question. Will it have technical support as a normal Microsoft product or
will I have to use it at my own risk?

Thank you for this information.

 

[Cal Learner-- MVP]

Thank you for letting me know this. I will try it at home. However, I have a
question. Will it have technical support as a normal Microsoft product or
will I have to use it at my own risk?

I don't expect this is not going to be a supported thing, but maybe
there will be some help in the short term. Think user support going
forward.

Identifying any issues early would be productive.

 

[Johnny Fields]

I don't expect this is not going to be a supported thing, but maybe
there will be some help in the short term. Think user support going
forward.

Identifying any issues early would be productive.

The reason that I ask this is because I understand that in order for me to
install this Sunset version, I would have to uninstall my purchased version.
So, the moment I uninstall the purchased version, I will lose the 9 or
whatever months that the technical support will still last for Money and that
the purchased version has left.

Am I correct?

Anyway, thank you for your useful information.

Regards.

 

[Jim]

Thanks for the heads-up. Installed and running, seems fine. My
existing .MNY file opened without a hitch.

I've actually installed it in an XP VM as I also use UltraSoft
MoneyLink, and MoneyLink is the only thing that will stop me going to
Office 2010 x64. With this running in a VM I can upgrade my main box
to Office 2010 and not have to worry.

Looks good, and no "an update needs to be downloaded" etc. type
messages. Also, whether it's a clean install or not I don't know, but
it actually feels faster



Jim

 

[aafuss]

This would be useful to me-as in Australia our last retail version is
2005 standard.

 

[Ron Rosenfeld]

I've actually installed it in an XP VM as I also use UltraSoft
MoneyLink, and MoneyLink is the only thing that will stop me going to
Office 2010 x64. With this running in a VM I can upgrade my main box
to Office 2010 and not have to worry.

Will MoneyLink not work with Excel 2010? That would definitely keep me from
getting Office 2010.
--ron

 

[Jim]

Will MoneyLink not work with Excel 2010? That would definitely keep me from
getting Office 2010.
--ron

Possibly...but definitely not with the 64-bit version. I can't vouch
for the x86 version of Excel 2010 as I haven't tried it with
MoneyLink.

 

[Ron Rosenfeld]

Possibly...but definitely not with the 64-bit version. I can't vouch
for the x86 version of Excel 2010 as I haven't tried it with
MoneyLink.

That's too bad. It does seem to work OK with the 64-bit version of Excel 2007.
--ron

 

[Jim]

That's too bad. It does seem to work OK with the 64-bit version of Excel 2007.
--ron

That's because there is no 64-bit version of Excel 2007

Excel 2010 is the first to be available as native 64-bit code. All
previous versions were 32-bit - but would run happily on 64-bit
Windows.

I don't think MoneyLink will ever work in 64-bit Excel. The VBA code
can be updated (adding PtrSafe references), but Money itself is 32-bit
and I'm pretty sure that MoneyLink loads Money via DLLs.

I'm not expecting miracles - Money is dead, MoneyLink is as good as
dead - but it would be nice if somebody did find a way to make it
work. Until then, hopefully my VM will continue to work okay.



Jim

 

[Dick Watson]

MoneyLink seems to work OK with Excel 2010 32-bit. Have not tested
exhaustively but have rerun six or seven different imports with no problems
and apparently valid retrievals.

Supposedly 64-bit breaks most add-ins. MoneyLink is the only reason I
installed the 32-bit version instead of the 64-bit.

 

[Dick Watson]

So you are running 32-bit Office2010 in the VM and 64-bit native?

 

[Dick Watson]

1) You could write down the installed Product ID. With that you might be
able to get "Support" such as it will be.

2) There are only two (or maybe three) reasons to mess with the Sunset
version:

First, a need to reinstall past 1/31/2011 when, otherwise, you will not be
able to activate.

Second, supposedly the Help in the original version (which is really more or
less on-line) will no longer be served up by Microsoft someday Real Soon
Now. (Like maybe it's on an old machine that might die and will not be
repaired if it does or something. Don't know exact details.) The Sunset
version supposedly more or less provides the Help from local files rather
than needing it served up over the web.

The third reason is to help test it to make sure they didn't break anything
else. Now, let's say we all find something else they accidentally broke.
Will they fix it? I'd say if it's subtle enough that it hasn't been found in
the last 24 hours it won't get fixed even if we do find it. They didn't
actually fix problems when it was supported, remember?

 

[Ron Rosenfeld]

That's because there is no 64-bit version of Excel 2007

Excel 2010 is the first to be available as native 64-bit code.

I did not know that. That could result in some advantages.
--ron

 

[Ron Rosenfeld]

MoneyLink seems to work OK with Excel 2010 32-bit. Have not tested
exhaustively but have rerun six or seven different imports with no problems
and apparently valid retrievals.

Supposedly 64-bit breaks most add-ins. MoneyLink is the only reason I
installed the 32-bit version instead of the 64-bit.

That's too bad. I do have the XP VM installed under W7 in order to run a few
programs that won't run under W7; and also to run my scanner using a TWAIN
interface for which one does not exist for 32-bit OS's (and never will,
according to Epson). So I guess there are some workarounds possible.

Maybe I'll just start with MoneyDance and a fresh DB next year.
--ron

 

[Jim]

64-bit native Office 2010 on my desktop (Win 7 x64). This is where
Money "purchased version" lives, but which will now be uninstalled.

32-bit Office 2007 in the VM (XP Pro) where the Sunset version has
been installed, and which will now become my "MS Money facility". The
VM is running on my server so I just need to RDP to it, no need to
wait for the VM to boot. The server is up 24x7.


MoneyLink was the only thing stopping me installing 64-bit Office. I
know Microsoft recommend that everyone uses the 32-bit version, for
the reasons you gave in another reply, but I like to be at the
bleeding edge and 64-bit is definitely faster than 32-bit in Outlook
and Excel.



Jim

 

[Joaneee]

Will this Sunset Version still allow processing of OFX files manually
downloaded from finanacial institutions? Cannot tell from the info available
from Miscrosoft.

 

[Johnny Fields]

Hello Joaneee. Yes, this Sunset version will have all the features that a
normal version does, except those that will require an Internet connection,
such as Activation, automatic account updates, automatic quotes and stock
prices, etc.

I hope this information helps.

 

[- Bobb -]

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...1e-207e-4710-ac80-d19c22e47488&displaylang=en
states:
"No support services (support services are limited to online self-help only,
see Money Plus Sunset EULA and Microsoft's Support Lifecycle pages for more
details)"
then
Instructions
If your installation of Money Plus currently has active online services, or
if your installation of Money Plus is still covered by support services
according to its EULA , we recommend that you NOT upgrade to this version of
Money Plus Sunset. ...... To reinstall older versions of Microsoft Money,
users will need to uninstall Microsoft Money Plus Sunset, and then proceed
with installing the previous version as a separate step.
.....
read the rest

 

[Roy Smith]

Will this Sunset Version still allow processing of OFX files manually
downloaded from finanacial institutions? Cannot tell from the info available
from Miscrosoft.

Yes I've downloaded it and it still will manually process .ofx files
that you've downloaded.

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional

Timestamp: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:08:24 PM