Morningstar Rankings

[John Lea]

The portfolio view shows MS ratings for some funds but not others. It
shows on Oakmark and Dodge & Cox Stock but not on any Vanguard funds
nor other families' bond funds. I keep hoping for a fix or at least
to stumble on the cause.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Charlie48K]

They show up fine on Q2004Premier, incl Vanguard. When you slect Edit
on your security from the securities list, is the "Matched with online
security" box checked at the botttom?

 

[John Pollard]

Thanks. I thought that was it. In Q02Deluxe there is no
"Matched with online security box" but I thought it might be
"download asset class" since I had many turned off. I turned
them on and updated with no change in the Morningstar detail.

I had the same problem in an earlier version of Quicken and it
went away for a short time after I upgraded to Q02. I
restarted the data since I was concerned about corruption but
the problem returned. It is a minor thing but it really bugs
me.

Actually, there is a "Matched with online security box" in Q2002
deluxe for Windows, US: it's just not in the exact same place as
it is in later versions of Quicken.

Select the security in the Security List, click "Edit", then
click "Other Info", and look at the bottom of the resulting
"Additional Security Information" dialog box.

I confess I am not quite sure why you would need to match to an
online security if your Quicken security has a recognized ticker
symbol, but perhaps someone will enlighten me.

 

[John Lea]

Thanks. I thought that was it. In Q02Deluxe there is no "Matched with
online security box" but I thought it might be "download asset class"
since I had many turned off. I turned them on and updated with no
change in the Morningstar detail.

I had the same problem in an earlier version of Quicken and it went
away for a short time after I upgraded to Q02. I restarted the data
since I was concerned about corruption but the problem returned. It
is a minor thing but it really bugs me.

 

[John Lea]

Thanks. In my file it is greyed out. Help says that it is for
matching online transactions (at the broker?) with the ones in your
data. I don't d/l transactions.

 

[John Pollard]

Thanks. In my file it is greyed out. Help says that it is for
matching online transactions (at the broker?) with the ones in
your data. I don't d/l transactions.

I just wanted you to know that the checkbox was there, I don't
think it is related to your problem. If the checkbox is greyed
out, the security is *not* matched to an online security. I see
Morningstar ratings for securities which I do not get downloaded
transactions for (which therefore are not matched to an online
security).

Now if you had the wrong ticker symbol, I would understand that.

There are some funds that do not have Morningstar ratings. I
own several Vanguard funds; I have a Morningstar rating for only
one; the rest do not have Morningstar ratings in Quicken ... but
they don't have Morningstar ratings at Morningstar either: I
think they are too new to have been rated. Have you checked
your funds at Morningstar to see whether a rating exists for
them?

I have some other funds that show "N/A" for Morningstar ratings:
I can only guess at the reasons. Some are money market funds
which don't get rated. A couple are Legg Mason funds and
Morningstar only has ratings for some of Legg Mason's funds.
One is a Wells Fargo fund that was taken over from Montgomery
Funds; possibly this does not have a rating because it has not
been managed by Wells Fargo long enough.

The only fund I see which has a Morningstar rating, but which
shows as "N/A" in Quicken is "Vanguard Short-term Treasury A"; I
don't own it, it is only in my Watch List (and put there long
ago, and mostly forgotten since). I have no explanation for
this, the fund has been in existance since 2001.

I see ratings for Harbor, Janus, MFS, Mutual, Nuveen, Turner,
USAA, to name some; so it appears to me that the Morningstar
ratings are working overall; I'm not sure why your particular
funds are not showing ratings. Maybe if others comment, a
pattern will emerge.

 

[John Lea]

My missing rankings are on major funds that have been around for
years.

D&C Income
Vanguard GNMA
Vanguard S&P 500Index and others.

The probelm originated on my file in an earlier version of Q. I
believe when I tried to get support I was told there was a problem
with my data. I set up a new file with just the funds in it with a
share of each or something like that and was able to get the rankings.
Then I upgraded to Q02Deluxe and I was unable to get them using my
historical file. I then abandoned the history and started fresh from
9/1/03 on. For a while things worked nicely now I get some and not
others. It is a puzzle.