New Deal, what happens now?


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Cash converter

I was on the New Deal 25+ option for 6 mts which is about to end this
weekend.

I have since had a letter from the council asking me to provide details of
my income by the 18 May 05.
The letter also states that it is an offence to fail to notify this office
of any change in my circumstances.

I was put on New Deal by the jobcentre, now the jobcentre is stopping my JSA
and HB, what am I supposed to do about this?, as far as I am aware there has
been no change in my circumstances

I have looked on the JC website and it gives no information about what to do
when a New Deal course ends so I need some advice please.
 
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Netty

Cash converter said:
I was on the New Deal 25+ option for 6 mts which is about to end this
weekend.

I have since had a letter from the council asking me to provide details of
my income by the 18 May 05.
The letter also states that it is an offence to fail to notify this office
of any change in my circumstances.

I was put on New Deal by the jobcentre, now the jobcentre is stopping my JSA
and HB, what am I supposed to do about this?, as far as I am aware there has
been no change in my circumstances

I have looked on the JC website and it gives no information about what to do
when a New Deal course ends so I need some advice please.
Go to your Jobcentre. The staff should give you another JSA form to complete
and take back. Make sure that the date you want to claim from on the form is
the day after your last day on New Deal, so there shouldn't be any breaks in
entitlement to JSA or your Housing Benefit.

Basically what's possibly happened is that the JSA computer system has
issued a letter to the council stating your New Deal Option is ending this
weekend and the Council need to check what you will be doing once your New
Deal option has ended (ie will you carry on claiming JSA, are you starting
work, claiming another benefit etc) to see if you are still eligible to
claim HB/CTB.

Netty
 
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Cash converter

Netty said:
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Go to your Jobcentre. The staff should give you another JSA form to complete
and take back. Make sure that the date you want to claim from on the form is
the day after your last day on New Deal, so there shouldn't be any breaks in
entitlement to JSA or your Housing Benefit.

Basically what's possibly happened is that the JSA computer system has
issued a letter to the council stating your New Deal Option is ending this
weekend and the Council need to check what you will be doing once your New
Deal option has ended (ie will you carry on claiming JSA, are you starting
work, claiming another benefit etc) to see if you are still eligible to
claim HB/CTB.
The JC knows that I am still unemployed, why the hell are they contacting
the council when they know I am not working, I had barely finished with home
visits from the council and DWP, both asked exactly the same questions, then
I was put on this Inbiz course, the next thing I get is more letters from
the council and DWP asking to see me again, anyway the DWP bloke returned a
few weeks later because he heard I was working, followed again by another
bloke from the council who thought the same, it would appear that the JC on
this occasion somehow managed to tell them I was working, they wanted to
know how much I was earning so I had to show them my New Deal provision
book, WTF I thought, the only thing I was doing was attending the poxy
course that the JC told me to attend, talk about wasting time, it beggars
belief that 3 departments, 4 if you include Inbiz, are doing exactly the
same job and they still cant get it right, this must be how the govt is
reducing unemployment, give every twat the same job, at this rate I will no
time left for job search, half my life seems to be taken up dealing with
these people.


Thanks Netty :)
 
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Mike

Cash said:
The JC knows that I am still unemployed, why the hell are they contacting
the council when they know I am not working, I had barely finished with home
visits from the council and DWP, both asked exactly the same questions, then
I was put on this Inbiz course, the next thing I get is more letters from
the council and DWP asking to see me again, anyway the DWP bloke returned a
few weeks later because he heard I was working, followed again by another
bloke from the council who thought the same, it would appear that the JC on
this occasion somehow managed to tell them I was working, they wanted to
know how much I was earning so I had to show them my New Deal provision
book, WTF I thought, the only thing I was doing was attending the poxy
course that the JC told me to attend, talk about wasting time, it beggars
belief that 3 departments, 4 if you include Inbiz, are doing exactly the
same job and they still cant get it right, this must be how the govt is
reducing unemployment, give every twat the same job, at this rate I will no
time left for job search, half my life seems to be taken up dealing with
these people.


Thanks Netty :)
Essentially your claim has ended, if you don't make an appointment and
renew the JC will not pay you. These days there's an electronic
interfaces between the JC and HB computer which has told them your claim
has ended because it has been effectively closed from the end of your ND.
Provided you follow Netty's advice all should be sorted, the intreface
will be triggered and the HB will be told of your new claim.

Mike
 
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Cash converter

Mike said:
Essentially your claim has ended, if you don't make an appointment and
renew the JC will not pay you. These days there's an electronic
interfaces between the JC and HB computer which has told them your claim
has ended because it has been effectively closed from the end of your ND.
Provided you follow Netty's advice all should be sorted, the intreface
will be triggered and the HB will be told of your new claim.

Mike

I always sign on time, do the job search etc so it cant be because I was in
default, 64k question, why has my claim ended when I have not got a job nor
did I sign off.

The last time I made a new claim it took over 6 weeks to get JSA and 3
months to get HB so it looks like its back to thieving to survive in the
meantime.
 
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Mike

Cash said:
I always sign on time, do the job search etc so it cant be because I was in
default, 64k question, why has my claim ended when I have not got a job nor
did I sign off.
If you're on a ND you're on a scheme. Scheme ends your claim ends, you
have to re-claim JSA.
The last time I made a new claim it took over 6 weeks to get JSA and 3
months to get HB so it looks like its back to thieving to survive in the
meantime.
It should be pretty well immediate but it will depend on local factors.
Many JCP offices have had to let go casual and fixed term contract
staff & have been unable to recruite new staff leaving voluntarily.
Still more excess staff, based not on how many are needed to administer
the gov designed beauracracy but an arbitary target, have left the JCP
for other gov.depts. There's no way of knowing how long it will take,
you can ask the local staff who should know the current work situation,
but if you're unlucky it could be a few weeks. The only thing you can
do is make an appointment ASAP, attend and complete the paperwork.

Mike
 
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Martin Davies

Mike said:
If you're on a ND you're on a scheme. Scheme ends your claim ends, you
have to re-claim JSA.


It should be pretty well immediate but it will depend on local factors.
Many JCP offices have had to let go casual and fixed term contract
staff & have been unable to recruite new staff leaving voluntarily.
Still more excess staff, based not on how many are needed to administer
the gov designed beauracracy but an arbitary target, have left the JCP
for other gov.depts. There's no way of knowing how long it will take,
you can ask the local staff who should know the current work situation,
but if you're unlucky it could be a few weeks. The only thing you can
do is make an appointment ASAP, attend and complete the paperwork.

Mike
One of the disadvantages of the government plans to reduce civil servants?

Come to think of it, why are different agencies given different rules? CSA
has recruited permanent AOs this year. Not fixed term, permanent.
You'd think the JCP would do something similar?

Martin <><
 
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Mike

Martin said:
One of the disadvantages of the government plans to reduce civil servants?

Come to think of it, why are different agencies given different rules? CSA
has recruited permanent AOs this year. Not fixed term, permanent.
You'd think the JCP would do something similar?

Martin <><
The pension service is in certain places recruiting temp and permanent
civil servants in one are whilst offering others exit packages and moved
to OGDs.

Mike
 
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Frank Booth Snr

I always sign on time, do the job search etc so it cant be because I was in
default, 64k question, why has my claim ended when I have not got a job nor
did I sign off.

The last time I made a new claim it took over 6 weeks to get JSA and 3
months to get HB so it looks like its back to thieving to survive in the
meantime.
It's best never to get involved in these stupid courses/schemes where you
have to sign off. They nearly always disrupt the bureaucratic process, and
they are guaranteed not to make it any easier to find work once they finish.
I was on a all paid computer course while signing on last year. Although I
qualified as an CompTIA A+ technician, at least the signing on process was
not interrupted. And no, it didn't help find me a job or even help get me an
interview :)
 

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