Online Petition: HSBC Bank Moving UK Jobs To Asia


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Mark Henderson

If you are an existing HSBC Bank customer, or know someone who is, you
may be interested to learn the HSBC are moving over 4,000 UK jobs to
Asia. Make your voice heard and sign the online petition at:

www.petitiononline.com/hsbcjobs

The text of the petition follows:

To: HSBC Bank plc

I was appalled to learn of the decision by HSBC Bank to turn its back
on British workers by moving 4,000 call centre jobs to Asia. (ref:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3198886.stm)

Doing this to cut costs and thereby boost profits at the expense of
the livelihoods of British people, many of whom probably bank with
you, is simply outrageous. It is time that the British people took a
stand against this dangerous trend in the service sector, which no
doubt threatens the livelihoods of many British people, not just those
working in call centres.

I will give HSBC Bank some time to reconsider this issue, but if you
proceed with your decision to move jobs out of Britain, I hereby
pledge to withdraw my custom from HSBC and move to another bank during
February 2004.
 
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Tim

If you are an existing HSBC Bank customer, or know someone who is, you
may be interested to learn the HSBC are moving over 4,000 UK jobs to
Asia.
Hadn't heard that, thanks for letting us know.
Make your voice heard and sign the online petition
Ermmm - the words appear to be wrong! Where's the one in *favour* of them
reducing the costs, so that charges can be reduced??
 
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Ronald Raygun

Tim said:
Hadn't heard that, thanks for letting us know.


Ermmm - the words appear to be wrong! Where's the one in *favour* of them
reducing the costs, so that charges can be reduced??
These are *call centre* jobs. They shouldn't be moving them, but
scrapping them! They should be letting customers have face to face
meetings with their branch assistant managers.
 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can

Bitstring <N0vkb.2360$Ar6.19781771@news-text.cableinet.net>, from the
wonderful person Ronald Raygun said:
These are *call centre* jobs. They shouldn't be moving them, but
scrapping them! They should be letting customers have face to face
meetings with their branch assistant managers.
They =will be= scrapping them, as soon as most of the folks figure out
how much better interest rates they can get using Internet Only
accounts, with minimum human involvement. 8>.

p.s. What's a branch manager? Come to that, what's a branch??
 
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Ronald Raygun

GSV said:
Bitstring <N0vkb.2360$Ar6.19781771@news-text.cableinet.net>, from the


They =will be= scrapping them, as soon as most of the folks figure out
how much better interest rates they can get using Internet Only
accounts, with minimum human involvement. 8>.

p.s. What's a branch manager? Come to that, what's a branch??
Pah! Before long you'll be asking "What's a bank?". Internet banking
will become a thing of the past when folks figure out there is no door
or desk anywhere they can bang or thump on when problems need sorted.
 
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GSV Three Minds in a Can

from the said:
Pah! Before long you'll be asking "What's a bank?". Internet banking
will become a thing of the past when folks figure out there is no door
or desk anywhere they can bang or thump on when problems need sorted.
Sure there is (Try Smile, AKA Co-Op bank). They replied to the phone
right smartly, the one time (in 5 years) I needed to talk to someone.
 
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nowhere

On 18 Oct 2003 16:23:05 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (Mark
Henderson) wrote:

[--snip--]
I will give HSBC Bank some time to reconsider this issue, but if you
proceed with your decision to move jobs out of Britain, I hereby
pledge to withdraw my custom from HSBC and move to another bank during
February 2004.
I am much more concerned that HSBC is running Spyware on your PC when
you access their website. They make no mention of this in their
Privacy Policy (beyond the use of cookies and web bugs) and they do
not ask for permission.

This is the main reason I may cease to bank with HSBC.

Mark
 
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Sunil Sood

I am much more concerned that HSBC is running Spyware on your PC when
you access their website. They make no mention of this in their
Privacy Policy (beyond the use of cookies and web bugs) and they do
not ask for permission.
Which software is this? I haven't noticed anything - not that I have
particularly looked..

Regards
Sunil
 
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Gav

I've just had a similar experience ringing up for Gold Technical support
from Dell. Got speaking to this Asian guy who spent ages trying to work out
what I had said, I was nearly ripping my hair out by the end of the
(extremely long) call. Looks like we might all have to learn Indian to get
by.

Gav
 
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Vadim Borshchev

I am much more concerned that HSBC is running Spyware on your PC when
you access their website.
Huh? What exactly do you see? I am using either Linux or QNX and hense
missing the joys of spyware. Just curious.

... beyond the use of ... web bugs ...
They name them "web beacons". As T&C say, "You'll find a number of hypertext
links to other locations on the Internet from our Site". Indeed you will,
and at least one of them,
<https://secure-uk.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/count?ref='+refR+'&cid='+pCid+'>,
leads to the site of the company with dubious registration information

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Admin, DNS (20553249I) (e-mail address removed)
Red Sheriff Ltd
7/10 Queens Rd
Melbourne, VIC 3004
AU
999-999-9999 fax: 999-999-9999


I am with Bank of Scotland currently but looking to place my money somewhere
else, to the bank that is competent in both banking AND internet service.
BoS has screwed up its internet service completely this summer --
reimplementing their existing site and introducing new one -- for some reason
they decided not to service those who don't use Microsoft software (plus lots
of bugs in Javascript, plus invalid stylesheets, plus other issues). The
excuse from the customer survices was "But the majority is using internet
explorer" -- well, I heard that IT industry is not at its best, but inability
of BoS just to find a decent HTML coder is appalling.


So, HSBC is cut out of the list as well.


Vadim
 
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Sunil Sood

Vadim Borshchev said:
They name them "web beacons". As T&C say, "You'll find a number of hypertext
links to other locations on the Internet from our Site". Indeed you will,
and at least one of them,
leads to the site of the company with dubious registration information
Where is this link from the HSBC web site?

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Admin, DNS (20553249I) (e-mail address removed)
Red Sheriff Ltd
7/10 Queens Rd
Melbourne, VIC 3004
AU
999-999-9999 fax: 999-999-9999
Seems to belong to http://www.redsheriff.com/ which appear to be a reputable
company - hired by HSBC to provide analytical information on who uses their
web site perhaps?

Regards
Sunil
 
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Thom Baguley

GSV said:
Sure there is (Try Smile, AKA Co-Op bank). They replied to the phone
right smartly, the one time (in 5 years) I needed to talk to someone.
Smile aren't perfect, but they do seem to i) reply to emails fairly promptly
and, ii) get the answers right at least as often as my f2f bank did (probably
more often). I haven't had to phone yet.

Thom
 
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Vadim Borshchev

Sunil said:
Where is this link from the HSBC web site?
Source of https://syserver.firstdirect.com/forms/secure/eprospect_fs.html ,
at the bottom. Actually, each page served, secure or othervise, contains an
imrworldwide.com tracking bug.

Also search the source of the page
http://www.firstdirect.com/applyfor/apply_bankacc_p.shtml for "<!-- Start of
Doubleclick Tracking Code: Please do not remove -->" string.

Seems to belong to http://www.redsheriff.com/ which appear to be a reputable
company - hired by HSBC to provide analytical information on who uses their
web site perhaps?
Since when a reputable company should hide its phone and fax numbers?


Vadim
 
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john boyle

Ronald said:
They should be letting customers have face to face
meetings with their branch assistant managers.
Or even the managers. Actually, HSBC can usually give a big lending
decision either in the building or very close by, whereas other have to
hand write forms for HO.
 
F

Fraser

Vadim Borshchev said:
Huh? What exactly do you see? I am using either Linux or QNX and hense
missing the joys of spyware. Just curious.
So? The spyware is a java applet running in your webbrowser. *nix is just as
vunerable.

Fraser.
 
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Vadim Borshchev

Fraser said:
So? The spyware is a java applet running in your webbrowser. *nix is just as
vunerable.
Yes, I've replied *before* investigating the sources too deep, hence false
assumption. But since Java is off by default on my machines, I haven't
noticed Measure.class .

Have server-uk.imrworldwide.com rejected in routing table.

Vadim
 

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