OT B&W Laser Printer


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Judith Smith

I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?
 
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parellic

I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years.  But  the cartridge which  came with it is nearly
dead.  A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about.  The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only  (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but  I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked  - but I  would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?
A lot of these cartridges can be refilled 2 or 3 times. You can buy a
bottle of toner and fill it through the hole provided. Even if no
entry hole if provided on a particular toner cartridge, there are kits
available to melt a hole into the cartridge. Do some googling and save
some money.
 
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Judith Smith

A lot of these cartridges can be refilled 2 or 3 times. You can buy a
bottle of toner and fill it through the hole provided. Even if no
entry hole if provided on a particular toner cartridge, there are kits
available to melt a hole into the cartridge. Do some googling and save
some money.

Yep - I agree -- but it is quite slow - and if the new one does have a
scanner (which most seem to) then all well and good.

It is certainly an option - and I am thinking of giving a refill a go
before I dump it.

cheers.
 
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parellic

Yep - I agree -- but it is quite slow - and if the new one does have a
scanner (which most seem to) then all well and good.

It is certainly an option - and I am thinking of giving a refill a go
before I dump it.

cheers.
Personally I would not buy an all-in-one scanner/copier/printer. I
know they save on space, but if one part goes wrong then the whole lot
becomes scrap. I prefer to have a separate scanner and printer, and
then replace them as they fail, or when I want to update one or the
other.
 
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Janitor of Lunacy

Personally I would not buy an all-in-one scanner/copier/printer. I
know they save on space, but if one part goes wrong then the whole lot
becomes scrap. I prefer to have a separate scanner and printer, and
then replace them as they fail, or when I want to update one or the
other.
For £40 for a Hewlett-Packard combi from Tesco, with guarantee and online
support, separate units become stupidly cumbersome to manage and wasteful of
space and USB ports. Hint: this is 2009- shop around.
 
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parellic

If you are happy with a mono printer then a cheap laser printer is
much cheaper to run that an inkjet., and you don't have that problem
of the ink drying out when you don't use it for a couple of weeks. I
bought a cheap Samsung laser printer about a year ago and find it
perfectly adequate. This is similar to the one I bought:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148076
 
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Blah

A lot of these cartridges can be refilled 2 or 3 times. You can buy a
bottle of toner and fill it through the hole provided. Even if no
entry hole if provided on a particular toner cartridge, there are kits
available to melt a hole into the cartridge. Do some googling and save
some money.
Thats all well and good in principle - but lasers need 'developer' which
transfers the toner from the drum to the paper, and this wears out as well.
 
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nightjar

Judith Smith said:
I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?
Don't buy HP original (OEM) toner cartridges. Remanufactured (recycled)
cartridges are significantly cheaper and just as good. There is not that
much difference in cost per page between any home / small business laser
printers using OEM cartridges, so unless you need a faster / better featured
printer, you may as well stick with the Laserjet 5. It has the advantage
that there are a lot of used cartridges for it about, which has a direct
effect on the cost of remanufactured cartridges.

Colin Bignell
 
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Max Demian

I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.
Well you've first got to decide whether you want to stick with a mono
laser printer or get a colour ink jet one.

Laser printers are probably cheaper to run, and generally give a
crisper image, as the liquid ink used by ink jet printers tends to
bleed into the paper. The Dell 1110 sells for £102.

All-in-one print/scan/photocopy ink jet printers are very nifty and
can do pretty much everything you want to do with a printer, including
printing colour prints from a digital camera. Ink jets can be very
expensive to run, as the ink cartridges don't last long. There is an
enormous variation in the running costs - you would have to consult
Which? (at your local library) to see which are cheapest. You need one
with separate black and colour ink cartridges as the ones that make
black by mixing the colours don't produce a good black. I use a Dell
which is excellent - but I don't know about the economy as I don't do
a great deal of printing. The current Dell V305 (currently £57) is
worth a look.
 
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Martin

Blah said:
Thats all well and good in principle - but lasers need 'developer' which
transfers the toner from the drum to the paper, and this wears out as well.
The developer transfers the toner to the drum, not to the paper.
 
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Martin

Judith Smith said:
I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?
Look at the Brother range.

I've used them for years, trouble free. Toner is sensibly priced - and
lasts far ages. Low-cost non-OEM ones seem fine, too. You buy the drum
separately if and when needed. Only downsides I've met are (a) the toner
supplied with printer is only half capacity - though I think loads of
printer makers do this; and (b) not the smallest footprint in the world.

HTH
 
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Theo Markettos

In uk.finance "nightjar said:
Don't buy HP original (OEM) toner cartridges. Remanufactured (recycled)
cartridges are significantly cheaper and just as good. There is not that
much difference in cost per page between any home / small business laser
printers using OEM cartridges, so unless you need a faster / better
featured printer, you may as well stick with the Laserjet 5. It has the
advantage that there are a lot of used cartridges for it about, which has
a direct effect on the cost of remanufactured cartridges.
The 5MP is one of the printers made in the 1990s when printer manufacturers
weren't into the cheap-printer-expensive-ink model. So toner should be dirt
cheap. Toner is much more expensive on more modern models.

OK...
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=laserjet+5mp+toner

Going rate seems to be about 15-20 quid including postage. Some of those
are HP original, some are remanufactured.

Theo
 
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Mike Barnes

I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?
I had a LaserJet 5MP for many years and it served me well. I can't
remember why I got rid of it but now I have a LaserJet 1020. It's much
smaller, much lighter, much faster, much quieter, has better print
quality, and cost about the same as the £80 you're looking at for a
cartridge. The 5MP is a real dinosaur.
 
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nightjar

Theo Markettos said:
The 5MP is one of the printers made in the 1990s when printer
manufacturers
weren't into the cheap-printer-expensive-ink model. So toner should be
dirt
cheap.
SRP of the C3903A OEM cartridge is £72 + VAT. Of course, not many people
sell it at the SRP.

Colin Bignell
 
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Cynic

Look at the Brother range.
I've used them for years, trouble free. Toner is sensibly priced - and
lasts far ages. Low-cost non-OEM ones seem fine, too. You buy the drum
separately if and when needed. Only downsides I've met are (a) the toner
supplied with printer is only half capacity - though I think loads of
printer makers do this; and (b) not the smallest footprint in the world.
Another advantage with those printers is that they ain't heavy ('cos
its your Brother) :)
 
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Judith Smith

I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?

Many thanks for all suggestions and responses.


And the answer is:

keep the Laserjet and either refill or buy refilled cartridge.
Treat my self to separate scanner.

The Laserjet really is a work horse - and I really can't see that the
quality of newer printers will be any better. They will be faster -
but the speed of Laserjet is acceptable.

Again -thanks to all.
 
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- CyberMail -

Judith Smith said:
I have been fortunate to have had an HP Laserjet 5MP for the last
couple of years. But the cartridge which came with it is nearly
dead. A new cartridge is 80 quid or there about. The printer is slow
by today's standards.

Ideally all I want is a laserjet B&W only (it need not be scanner and
copier - but it looks like most are).

I don't mind paying 200 or so - but I don't want to pay 30 or 40 quid
for a cartridge in six month's time.

Is there such a thing - I have looked - but I would rather go by a
recommendation.

Suggestions?

If it's good and does the job, stick with it. I have a LaserJet 4 which I
have used and still using for nearly 6 years (I even bought it second
hand) - ignoring the odd paper jam, the printer is a solid work horse, I use
it, the kids use it for their homework etc... and the toner is still going
strong, - it was put in nearly 3 years ago. I dread the day it dies on
me......... I will have to wear a black arm band that day.....it has served
me so well.




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