OT: Free Stuff from British Gas


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mart2306

Thanks for the link.  I hadn't seen the offer till now.

We have applied.  Nice to get something for nothing!!

Bill
Tanstaafl.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Something offered for free will be paid for. By someone.
Higher costs to customers, money from government for a program, lower
tax revenues from company or whatever.
Might not cost much per person, all adds up.

Martin <><
 
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Tanstaafl.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Something offered for free will be paid for. By someone.
Higher costs to customers, money from government for a program, lower
tax revenues from company or whatever.
Might not cost much per person, all adds up.
The grabbing hands grab all they can. My package is in the post.
 
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Niteawk

Bill said:
Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen the offer till now.

We have applied. Nice to get something for nothing!!

Bill
If only, all you are getting is a gadget that switches off electricity, bye
bye standby, hello sales and credit people with your address details ;)
 
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Harry Stottle

Niteawk said:
If only, all you are getting is a gadget that switches off electricity,
bye bye standby, hello sales and credit people with your address details
;)
Not if you carefully check, and tick, any boxes prohibiting them from
contacting you regarding any other services, or passing your details on to
third parties. Failure of them to comply with your wishes then becomes a
breach of the Data Protection Act, and I would imagine that if a complaint
was made against them, they would have to supply those original,
unadulterated web form details to back up their case.
 
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Mike

Niteawk said:
If only, all you are getting is a gadget that switches off electricity,
bye bye standby, hello sales and credit people with your address details ;)
You can always say no.

I get a credit card or loan application every other day and countless
direct mailings (inc e-mail) trying to sell me crap. Then there's the
spam for Russian brides, prescription medication and Rolex watches
(genuine!), though thankfully few make it past googles spam filters.
Then there's sales calls "Can I ask you a few Qs about the survey you
filled in ....", "you've been awarded a discount holiday ..." etc, etc.

Somehow I manage to resist all of this temptation on a daily basis.

Mike
 
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munki

Mike said:
You can always say no.

I get a credit card or loan application every other day and countless
direct mailings (inc e-mail) trying to sell me crap. Then there's the
spam for Russian brides, prescription medication and Rolex watches
(genuine!), though thankfully few make it past googles spam filters. Then
there's sales calls "Can I ask you a few Qs about the survey you filled in
....", "you've been awarded a discount holiday ..." etc, etc.

Somehow I manage to resist all of this temptation on a daily basis.
Even the Russian Bride ?
 
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Mike

munki said:
Even the Russian Bride ?
There's only so many Russian brides a man can cope with, though if
anyone is after prescription painkillers I know a man with poor english
who can hook you up.

Mike
 
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munki

Mike said:
There's only so many Russian brides a man can cope with, though if anyone
is after prescription painkillers I know a man with poor english who can
hook you up.

Mike
Hmm hope they are not plant growth pills for shiney leafs as I need some
painkillers for this monster of a headache I have.
 
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Harry Stottle

Mike said:
You can always say no.

I get a credit card or loan application every other day and countless
direct mailings (inc e-mail) trying to sell me crap. Then there's the
spam for Russian brides, prescription medication and Rolex watches
(genuine!), though thankfully few make it past googles spam filters. Then
there's sales calls "Can I ask you a few Qs about the survey you filled in
....", "you've been awarded a discount holiday ..." etc, etc.

Somehow I manage to resist all of this temptation on a daily basis.
Unwanted telephone calls, both landline and mobiles, register with the
Telephone Preference Service
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/ctps/number_type.html

Unwanted direct mail, register with the Mail Preference Service
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/mps_choosetype.html

I have been registered with both of these for a few years now, no
unsolicited telephone calls at all now, hardly any unsolicited direct mail,
and not had a credit card application since I registered.
 
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mart2306

Unwanted telephone calls, both landline and mobiles, register with the
Telephone Preference Servicehttp://www.tpsonline.org.uk/ctps/number_type.html

Unwanted direct mail, register with the Mail Preference Servicehttp://www..tpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/mps_choosetype.html

I have been registered with both of these for a few years now, no
unsolicited telephone calls at all now, hardly any unsolicited direct mail,
and not had a credit card application since I registered.
Only works for companies buying your information.
When you freely supply it to a company yourself, you give permission
for that company to have your details and contact you.

No company besides my mobile company has my mobile phone number - its
amazing how few non-personal calls I get in a year.
Plenty of companies I trade with, have contract with or use on
occasion have my home number - I get upwards of 20 calls a day some
days.
And yes, I use both phone and post preference service.



Martin <><
 
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Harry Stottle

Unwanted telephone calls, both landline and mobiles, register with the
Telephone Preference Service
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/ctps/number_type.html

Unwanted direct mail, register with the Mail Preference Service
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/mpsr/mps_choosetype.html

I have been registered with both of these for a few years now, no
unsolicited telephone calls at all now, hardly any unsolicited direct
mail,
and not had a credit card application since I registered.
<Martin wrote>
Only works for companies buying your information.
When you freely supply it to a company yourself, you give permission
for that company to have your details and contact you.
</Martin wrote>

Not if you carefully check, and tick, any boxes to exclude that permission
when filling in your personal details, and even if you do forget to do this,
all you have to do is inform them when they do call you, not to call you
again, then, as far as I am aware, this becomes a legal requirement under
the Data Protection Act. This should also apply to other unsolicited calls,
even if you are not registered with the TPS.

It is, in my opinion, time that the TPS was no longer needed, and the
acceptance of unsolicited phone calls should be made opt in instead of opt
out. The last time I checked, (which was a couple of years ago), there were
several million numbers registered, and that number was growing very
rapidly, how much proof do they need that the vast majority of people do not
want unsolicited calls?
 
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mart2306

<Martin wrote>
Only works for companies buying your information.
When you freely supply it to a company yourself, you give permission
for that company to have your details and contact you.
</Martin wrote>

Not if you carefully check, and tick, any boxes to exclude that permission
when filling in your personal details, and even if you do forget to do this,
all you have to do is inform them when they do call you, not to call you
again, then, as far as I am aware, this becomes a legal requirement under
the Data Protection Act. This should also apply to other unsolicited calls,
even if you are not registered with the TPS.

It is, in my opinion, time that the TPS was no longer needed, and the
acceptance of unsolicited phone calls should be made opt in instead of opt
out. The last time I checked, (which was a couple of years ago), there were
several million numbers registered, and that number was growing very
rapidly, how much proof do they need that the vast majority of people do not
want unsolicited calls?
Yet unsolicited calls still manage to sell.
So still a valid business tool. And a few million not wanting such
calls still leaves millions more who haven't said they don't want
those calls.

Informing a company not to call you again does seem to have some
loopholes.
If you owe them money for instance - then its your privacy versus
company chasing a valid debt.

I usually get my ansaphone to screen calls. People not leaving a
message don't get a call back!

Martin <><
 
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Harry Stottle

Yet unsolicited calls still manage to sell.
So still a valid business tool. And a few million not wanting such
calls still leaves millions more who haven't said they don't want
those calls.
That could be easily tested by making it opt in, then we would really see
how many people want unsolicited phone calls, my guess is it would be
greater than -1 and less than 1.
 
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mart2306

That could be easily tested by making it opt in, then we would really see
how many people want unsolicited phone calls, my guess is it would be
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Any opt-in scheme has less take up. People seem to be resistant to
wanting to change from status quo, as all insurance companies and
energy providers know.
Can't see an opt in any time soon though - too much of the economy at
stake.

Martin <><
 
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Harry Stottle

Any opt-in scheme has less take up. People seem to be resistant to
wanting to change from status quo, as all insurance companies and
energy providers know.
Can't see an opt in any time soon though - too much of the economy at
stake.
You are starting to sound like someone that sees a personal advantage in
pestering people in their own homes, and using the equipment they have paid
for, just to try and make a monetary gain for yourself, and if the economy
has become dependant on unwanted spam telephone calls, then it will be a
very long time before it recovers.
 

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