OT: TV Licence


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spalidinggray

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I dont have a TV

got a letter saying IMPENDING ACTION because there is no licence

what powers of entry do these people have ?
 
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mogga

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I dont have a TV

got a letter saying IMPENDING ACTION because there is no licence

what powers of entry do these people have ?
If you do not have a TV then let them in once to see that you
haven't. They can get a warrant if they really want to.

By the way having the tv remote out on the site, a dusty mark where
the TV was will get them a bit sus though.

They are a PITA to get rid of and will persist in sending you
reminders each year in case you get a tv. Any tv in your pc might
count though.
 
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spalidinggray

If you do not have a TV then let them in once to see that you
haven't. They can get a warrant if they really want to.

By the way having the tv remote out on the site, a dusty mark where
the TV was will get them a bit sus though.

They are a PITA to get rid of and will persist in sending you
reminders each year in case you get a tv. Any tv in your pc might
count though.
i rang them , they have no powers of entry and if they start
harrassing you you can call the police,
 
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pendragon

mogga said:
If you do not have a TV then let them in once to see that you
haven't. They can get a warrant if they really want to.
Nope, this is not the case. To obtain a warrant to search they must have
reasonable suspicion. Merely not having a licence is not reasonable
suspicion.

Do a google search to find out more.

terryw
 
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Mike

pendragon said:
Nope, this is not the case. To obtain a warrant to search they must have
reasonable suspicion. Merely not having a licence is not reasonable
suspicion.

Do a google search to find out more.

terryw
If their van detects a TV (can their equipment differentaite between a
CRT monitor and a TV?) I believe they can enter on the basis of
reasonable suspicion.

Any equipment capable of receiving a TV signal should be licensed so if
you have a TV card in your PC it should be licensed.


Mike
 
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pendragon

Mike said:
If their van detects a TV (can their equipment differentaite between a CRT
monitor and a TV?) I believe they can enter on the basis of reasonable
suspicion.

They still have to have warrant and it is very doubtful if they would
produce this sort of thing as evidence.

There has not been a single case of a prosecution for not having a TV
licence on the basis of a TV detector!

All the prosecutions are based on confession or the TV inspectors actually
seeing a working tv.

I do not have a tv and get really annoyed with the letters and visits from
the licensing people.

terryw
 
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Vic Youel

A TV receiver has an integral oscillator that beats with the received
signal. The difference between the two frequencies normally leaks out at low
level. It is this signal that detector vans (and man portable equipment for
use in flats) use to identify and locate TV receivers. Detector vans can
also detect high voltage radiation from old fashioned cathode ray tube
displays that is associated with TV.

At least that is what they used to do in the "sixties" but I suppose
technology has moved on; digital receivers probably do not reveal themselves
and it would also be very difficult to distinguish between a computer LCD
display and a TV.

Personally I think it just a case of idle threats and I find it difficult to
imagine a disguised detector van on the streets in Moss Side or any similar
district.

Really it is about time our "British senior management" gave up the idea of
a TV licence just as they gave up the licence for radio sets....... I used
to have one for my car radio in the sixties; imagine policing that! I think
it used to cost half a guinie

Not really for this news group but someone asked.

vic
 
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mogga

Nope, this is not the case. To obtain a warrant to search they must have
reasonable suspicion. Merely not having a licence is not reasonable
suspicion.
Most people have a TV set. That'd be reasonable suspicion. I'm sure
their stats show that most people who don't have a licence do have a
tv.

Evidence can be gained from stores recording your name and address
when you buy one; from someone nasty snitching you up, or from
standing outside in the street when corrie is on.
 
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pendragon

"mogga" <[email protected] suggests that
Most people have a TV set. That'd be reasonable suspicion.

Oh dear Mogga. No wonder that this country is becoming a police state!
Most people eat cheese but this is no reason for the Cheese Marketing Board
to obtain warrants to enter the premises of innocent non-cheese eaters.

terryw
 
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mogga

"mogga" <[email protected] suggests that


Oh dear Mogga. No wonder that this country is becoming a police state!
Most people eat cheese but this is no reason for the Cheese Marketing Board
to obtain warrants to enter the premises of innocent non-cheese eaters.

terryw
I have known two people who didn't have a TV. One was me and that was
only for a year or two.
I have however known many people who've not had a TV licence.

It is an undeniable fact that most people own a TV!

I've seen someone bragging today that they've evaded a licence fee for
15 years on a forum.
 
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Martin McGowan

mogga said:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:12:41 GMT, "pendragon"
I have known two people who didn't have a TV. One was me and that was
only for a year or two.
I have however known many people who've not had a TV licence.

It is an undeniable fact that most people own a TV!
snip it is also an undeniable fact that the tv licence people harass
those who don't have a TV. they harassed my mother from when i left
home to when she died, as she did not have a television, or a licence.
Martin McGowan
 
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Ken Ward

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I dont have a TV

got a letter saying IMPENDING ACTION because there is no licence

what powers of entry do these people have ?
None.. without a court ordered warrant.

I got the same letter this morning

Ken Ward.
 
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macarro

Ken said:
None.. without a court ordered warrant.

I got the same letter this morning

Ken Ward.
They have no powers of entry, but they will try to bully you and
threaten you with a POSSIBLE £1000 fine, whatever.

Stick to your ground and tell them to get a court order or you will call
the police for harassing you at home.
 
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Sue

In the Extra Info section of the HB claim form
macarro said:
They have no powers of entry, but they will try to bully you and
threaten you with a POSSIBLE £1000 fine, whatever.

Stick to your ground and tell them to get a court order or you will
call the police for harassing you at home.
Oooh, I wonder where my letter is? I haven't got a TV either.
 

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