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RIck Kline

I know I should've known better, but I made a back-up before I had to erase
my hard drive but and I used 4 floppys. I went to retore my file and one of
the disks (disk 3 to be exact) is corrupt. Any thing that I can do so my
wife won't divorce me?
 
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Dick Watson

Promise that next time you'll have a backup to the backup, test the backup
to make sure it really is one, and not rely on just one media type? Offer to
buy her a fancy diamond ring? (How you'd know if you could afford it is a
question I'll skip for the moment.)

Write protect the floppies immediately. Copy the backup file off each
remaining diskette to a folder in My Documents in case you get the bad
diskette to cooperate. Try copying the file from the bad diskette to the
folder. Try the same thing on several other computers--consider cleaning the
drives first. The less we all use floppy drives the dirtier they become.
Using a diskette cleans the drives by ruining the diskette. There are data
recovery services. Google to find one.

See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=69.
 
R

RIck Kline

I found a software called "Recover My Files" and it found 10 or more
"Money" files most of them the eaxt same 10 Meg size. It costs $69.95, could
it be posible that this really works? If so I'd pay it but otherwise it
would make an already bad thing worse.

Rick
 
D

Dick Watson

So, you didn't destructively reformat the hard disk. I would share your
suspicions that the 10240kB files will be fragments and leave you no better
off.

OTOH, four floppies worth of data would be about 10240kB IF you weren't
compressing on backup to floppy.

OTOH, if it's your only path, and the data is worth the $69.95 dead or
alive, you might want to do it. OTOH, spending the $69.95 to get nowhere
won't make your day, either.
 
D

Dick Watson

Given that, that's where I get confused too. Here's what I'm betting: the
10240kB files are as much as Money restored before the bad diskette blew up
the restore.
 
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Arthur

By default, DOS did not read verify what it writes to diskettes. The
DOS command is Verify On|Off but I do not know if that follows through
to the Win98 and beyond environments. I set it On in my autoexec.bat.
You can execute the Verify command from a DOS box (environment). I
have not experiemented to determine if it makes any difference with
diskettes because I never use them. The way to test would be by
timing the writing of files to a diskette with Verify On and again
with Verify Off. If On is working it will take longer to write the
same amount of data to the diskette.

My guess it that the default is to not read verify diskettes writes.
Inexcusable Microsoft behavior.

Did you try Scandisk? Sometimes it can recover diskette errors. You
could also see if the diskette is readable on another PC. You might
luck in.

arthur
 
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Dick Watson

If they'd made verify-after-write the default, everybody would have
complained about how slow the thing was. There's no winner here.
 
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Arthur

Money writes the .mny file every time it closes the file regardless of
any changes so if you opened to read the file 5 times you will have
rewritten the same exact file data 5 times. What will be different is
the modify date time stamp. I assume the recover software can not
find the old directory blocks and that is what Format wrote over. The
data is not overwritten without some switch which I forget. Might be
/z but not sure.

How full was your hdd before you formatted it? If it was largely
empty and you do not defrag often then you had lots of old data lying
about.

You can email the software company and ask your questions:
http://www.crocware.com/
Just tell them what you did and if the program can recover under the
circumstances. I found it here too:
http://www.tucows.com/preview/258313.html

arthur
 
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Arthur

Default Verify On. Give the user the option to turn write verify off.
That could be done in the driver. It could be done under Performance
with a warning. It isn't even mentioned in the Help. I do not know
how Apple handles the problem.

Since MS wrote both the operating system and money, and coded it to
assume diskettes would be used, one would expect that a competent
software designer would take steps to protect the user. Here we are
7+ years into the product and the situation never addressed.

MicroSoft, the toy computer software company.

arthur
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Dick Watson

More power to them. Check out http://gnucash.org, then go for it. Then you
won't have to use inexcusable toy software from incompetent software
designers.
 

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