protective clothing and laundry


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dave

From: (e-mail address removed) (dave)
Newsgroups: uk.business.accountancy
Subject: tax allowance and laundry
NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.77.238.239

can any one please advise how much i can claim for protective clothing
and laundry i am a self employed window cleaner and go through about 3
pairs of boots a year and about the same for jeans and the occasional
jacket used solely for work and are washed and dried twice a week i
also employ my wife in the same job and she uses about the same.
Q 1. how much can i claim

Q 2.can i claim for the wifes clothing

Q 3. can i group it all together under one heading

Q 4. also i wash and dry my scrim cloth,s 4 times a week given that
i use my own washer and dryer what is a reasonable amount to claim for
this

Q 5. i fill my water butt every morning 4X weekly from home using a
tank fill of hot water how much for this
 
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dp

can any one please advise how much i can claim for protective clothing

Keep your receipts. If the item are used exclusively for work, you can claim
it all. Just add up the total and put it on your tax return (or give the
total to your accountant).
and laundry i am a self employed window cleaner and go through about 3
pairs of boots a year and about the same for jeans and the occasional
jacket used solely for work and are washed and dried twice a week i
also employ my wife in the same job and she uses about the same.
Q 1. how much can i claim
As much as you spend
Q 2.can i claim for the wifes clothing
Again, if it is used exclusively for work, yes.
Q 3. can i group it all together under one heading
If it is all the same sort of stuff.
Q 4. also i wash and dry my scrim cloth,s 4 times a week given that
i use my own washer and dryer what is a reasonable amount to claim for
this
I may be corrected but I believe that, as the machines are used for personal
laundry, you may not claim anything. If you had a washing machine in a
worshop or used a laundry service and it was clear that there was no
"personal use" then you could claim.
Q 5. i fill my water butt every morning 4X weekly from home using a
tank fill of hot water how much for this
Nothing. It is not reasonable to apportion small amounts of electricity in
this way.

You must beware that, should your accounts show large, unreasonable or
unusual (i.e. very different to last year) amounts, questions will be asked.
 
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Troy Steadman

LOL that's what happens when you ask the same question in two
different newsgroups, you get two completely opposite answers. For
completeness I append my posting below, and it's not electric he's
claiming for it's water. I agree with you it isn't worth bothering
with.

can any one please advise how much i can claim for protective clothing
and laundry i am a self employed window cleaner and go through about 3
pairs of boots a year and about the same for jeans and the occasional
jacket used solely for work and are washed and dried twice a week i
also employ my wife in the same job and she uses about the same.
Here's a quote...

"The case of Mallalieu v Drummond [1983] 57TC330 (which is discussed
in detail below) established that no deduction is available under Case
I/II Schedule D for the costs of clothing which forms part of an
‘everyday' wardrobe. This remains so even where the taxpayer can show
that they only wear such clothing in the course of their profession.
It is irrelevant that the person chooses not to wear the clothing in
question on non-business occasions, the only question is whether the
clothing might suitably be worn as part of a hypothetical person's
‘everyday' wardrobe.

"Most professionals have to keep up appearances but their clothing
costs are not allowable (even where they amount to a quasi uniform as
in Mallalieu).

The cost of clothing that is not part of an ‘everyday' wardrobe (for
example a nurse's uniform or evening dress (‘tails') worn by a
professional waiter) faces no such bar to deduction.

You should therefore allow a deduction for protective clothing and
uniforms."

....from this link...

http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/manuals/bimmanual/BIM37910.htm

....by which you can work out the answers to your questions. I would
say:
Q 1. how much can i claim
Nothing.

Q 2.can i claim for the wifes clothing
No.

Q 3. can i group it all together under one heading
Irrelevant but nice to see you are preparing *proper* accounts :)
Q 4. also i wash and dry my scrim cloth,s 4 times a week given that
i use my own washer and dryer what is a reasonable amount to claim for
this
Nothing.

Q 5. i fill my water butt every morning 4X weekly from home using a
tank fill of hot water how much for this
Work out the actual cost and yes IMHO that would allowable.

If you were a builder your boots would be allowable but I don't see it
"washing" with a window cleaner. There are no hard and fast rules as
you can see from the link, each case is judged on its merits.
 
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Troy Steadman

From: (e-mail address removed) (dave)
Newsgroups: uk.business.accountancy
Subject: tax allowance and laundry
NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.77.238.239

can any one please advise how much i can claim for protective clothing
and laundry i am a self employed window cleaner and go through about 3
pairs of boots a year and about the same for jeans and the occasional
jacket used solely for work and are washed and dried twice a week i
also employ my wife in the same job and she uses about the same.
What people like yourself miss when they skimp on an accountant is the
overview.

Certainly it is important to make sure every allowable expense is
included in the accounts - in yours I'd expect:

MOTOR EXPENSES
If you use a car hopefully you have been keeping a detailed log and
can take advantage of the generous options at:

http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/rates/mileage.htm

If you have a van it is (generally) *all* business and there are
Capital Allowances to claim.

WIFES WAGES
Have a read of this:

http://www.clearlybusiness.com/finance/tx_trouble_and_strife.jsp

(takes a few minutes to load)

TELEPHONE
Most accountants err on the generous side with apportioning telephone
costs, at least 50% as Business.

BANK INTEREST AND CREDIT CARD CHARGES
....if you have business accounts.

PRINTING, STATIONARY
Lump these sort of items together estimated £3 a week or whatever.

***BUT***

As I said, what you are missing is the overview. A good chartered
accountant will look you up and down in the same way your GP does, he
will look at how much you spend on your clothes, what car you drive,
where you live, how much council tax you pay, how many kids you have,
he will come to a mental picture of how much all that cost and it is
one helluva lot!

He'll look at your bank statements, what you started with, what you
finished with, where the money went.

And that is the absolute minimum you *must* have earned. If your
accounts say differently then they are lying and he will reject them
and amend them. In doing that he is protecting you from the Tax
Inspector who will do exactly the same thing a year from now at
considerable discomfort to yourself.

dp is right, don't let anything stick out in these accounts, don't be
too greedy, it doesn't usually pay off.
 
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