Quicken 2005 -- Will it be any better than Q2004?


M

mfa

If it is like past years, we are probably getting close to the release
of Q2005. Seems like they usually come out in August, don't they?

I've been updating every other year lately (Q1999, Q2001, Q2003.) But
is it just my impression from this newgroup, or has Q2004 been
particularly buggy compared to past releases? It seems like the
traffic here relative to Q2004 problems has been about double that of
the same time period of any previous single release, IMHO.

Do you think the problems will carry over into Q2005 or do you think
things will be "better"? Historically, it seems like once a "minor"
bug gets into Quicken, it stays there release after release.
 
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Hank Arnold

From what I've seen, it's pretty much the same "Q sucks because...." that
every release gets. It's not Q that is, IMHO, causing the venom as much as
it's the perceived attitude of Intuit towards it's customers. Hard to
believe, but I think that Intuit has passed MS in the "We don't give a crap
about customers.... We just want to make money" attitude.

From what I've seen. the biggest concern we should have is whether the
ending of QIF imports is going to be a problem. I currently still have one
CC that only downloads QIF files and I don't see any movement towards
changing it. If you have an account that uses only QIF files, you may need
to hold off on Q05 until one or the other changes it's mind.....
 
T

The Michael

. If you have an account that uses only QIF files, you may need
to hold off on Q05 until one or the other changes it's mind.....
Any accounts that I found that had no plans for direct downloads I have either
dropped several years ago or they are so dormant that I wouldn't even bother with a
QIF download. There are too many FIs that have this support to justify my sticking
with any that do not at least have plans for it.
 
M

Mike B

Hank Arnold said:
From what I've seen, it's pretty much the same "Q sucks because...." that
every release gets. It's not Q that is, IMHO, causing the venom as much as
it's the perceived attitude of Intuit towards it's customers. Hard to
believe, but I think that Intuit has passed MS in the "We don't give a crap
about customers.... We just want to make money" attitude.

From what I've seen. the biggest concern we should have is whether the
ending of QIF imports is going to be a problem. I currently still have one
CC that only downloads QIF files and I don't see any movement towards
changing it. If you have an account that uses only QIF files, you may need
to hold off on Q05 until one or the other changes it's mind.....
My crystal ball is kinda cloudy. I agree on the attitude of Intuit re
customer support. I well recall the early days of Quicken and the excellent
customer support in the early days (Ca. 1994). My father still runs my old
283SX with that version of Quicken and Win 3.1. (yea, he is resistant to
change).

One of my CC companies have started putting a warning on their website. When
one selects the download for Quicken, the warning warns the end-user that
Intuit will be withdrawing support for the file format. The company suggests
remaining on Q2004 or migrating to MS Money. No hint that they anticipate
moving to anything newer than QIF. I suspect there is a licensing/fee issue
with the newer file formats?

Mike B
 
B

Blackwood

Any accounts that I found that had no plans for direct downloads I
have either dropped several years ago or they are so dormant that I
wouldn't even bother with a QIF download. There are too many FIs that
have this support to justify my sticking with any that do not at least
have plans for it.
I agree in general. But I have two financial institutions that only provide
QIF downloads. One is my 401(k) that I can't mode to another FI, the other
is a credit card whose rewards I happen to like. If they don't upgrade from
QIF, and if Intuit doesn't back down (as they did last year) on cutting off
QIF imports, I'll be staying with Q2004 for as long as I can.

As a side note, I certainly don't blame Intuit for trying to make the FIs
upgrade to better functionality. I just wish the FIs would get with the
prgram and do it. On the other hand, Intuit needs to provide a way of
exporting and importing information between different Quicken files. In the
past, QIF was used for this. It seems that in Q2005, Intuit is removing
this capability (for some types of accounts) and not providing a
replacement.
 
S

Steve

Mike B said:
My crystal ball is kinda cloudy. I agree on the attitude of Intuit re
customer support. I well recall the early days of Quicken and the excellent
customer support in the early days (Ca. 1994).
Back in the early 90s, I wrote a few letters to Intuit with tech
support questions, and actually received snail-mail replies.
 
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Louise

My crystal ball is kinda cloudy. I agree on the attitude of Intuit re
customer support. I well recall the early days of Quicken and the excellent
customer support in the early days (Ca. 1994). My father still runs my old
283SX with that version of Quicken and Win 3.1. (yea, he is resistant to
change).

One of my CC companies have started putting a warning on their website. When
one selects the download for Quicken, the warning warns the end-user that
Intuit will be withdrawing support for the file format. The company suggests
remaining on Q2004 or migrating to MS Money. No hint that they anticipate
moving to anything newer than QIF. I suspect there is a licensing/fee issue
YES - does anyone know how Money compares to Quicken these days and does
Money alllow qif file imports?

I've been using quicken since 95 or so, but I don't like having to have
a relationship with quicken so that I can have a relationship with the
bank. And, on top of that, to have to pay for it!

I'm runnin 2002 - should I quickly upgrade to 2003 or should I go to
2004?

TIA

Louise
 
V

Vijay Kumar

Hank Arnold said:
I'd go for 2004 and, IMHO, I think it's better than 2003.
What does one gain by going from 2002 to 2004?

And 2004 does not have the issues such as QIF that 2005 has?
 
W

Wm. E. Fletcher

Are you kiddin"? Every year , more problems. Look elsewhere and you
will save yourself a lot of time and aggravation. bill
 
N

NC_FUBAR

Been using Q05 for about a month now and it is a big improvement of
Q04.

Lee
 
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A

AK

I never used Q2004 given the extensive bug reports here, but did upgrade
from Q2003 when I received my *free* (yes - free) QP2005 upgrade.

So far, with only one bug apparent in the charts for market values of stocks
that split, it works fine. This is the first Quicken upgrade since the DOS
days that I can remember that actually works straight out of the box.
 

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