Quicken 2015


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Porter Smith

Al said:
Download from Intuit for $64.99 some weeks ago. At time Amazon &
others were more and I do not subscribe to Amazon Prime.
This is weird. Amazon is selling the downloadable version for $84.76. But
they will ship you a copy on CD for $69.99. Usually the CD version is more
expensive.
 
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Andrew

Porter said:
This is weird. Amazon is selling the downloadable version for $84.76. But
they will ship you a copy on CD for $69.99. Usually the CD version is more
expensive.
Assuming one uses TurboTax, and Intuit continues the usual policy of a
bundle of both TT and Q in November, I don't see why people at this
point in late October are considering buying a standalone version of Q?
 
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Guest

"Andrew" wrote in message
Porter said:
This is weird. Amazon is selling the downloadable version for $84.76. But
they will ship you a copy on CD for $69.99. Usually the CD version is more
expensive.


Assuming one uses TurboTax, and Intuit continues the usual policy of a
bundle of both TT and Q in November, I don't see why people at this point
in late October are considering buying a standalone version of Q?

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FWIW, when I got tangled up with the Vanguard switchover, after trying
"everything" including Quicken Support spending almost 2 hours with me on
the phone (after a couple of Chat sessions) - all of which failed, Quicken
gave me 2015 as the fix. And fix it, it did including some of the other
annoying issues I was experiencing with 2014.

RIch
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Charlie.
May I ask - where did you get Q 15 and what did you pay for it?
As I posted here on 10/9/14:
Yesterday I bought Q2015 Deluxe at Office Depot. (OD 's shelf price was
the same $74.99 that Best Buy showed, but the shelf tag also showed a $15
Instant Savings - which cut the price to $59.99 - so I bought it, of
course.)
Q 2015D has been working fine for me. (Most noticeable difference is that
2015 shows my Credit Score just below my Net Worth; since my score is good,
I like to see it. <g> ) Very little difference from 2014; mostly just
evolutionary from prior years. But I like to (1) stay up to date and (2)
support Intuit and encourage them to continue producing and updating Quicken
and TurboTax. In my opinion, $60 per year ($5 per month) is a small price
to pay for this.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2015 R3 and Windows Live Mail in Win8.1 x64)


wrote in message
Moved from Q 14 Dlx to Q 15 Dlx primarily for the reported fix (which
works) whereby the Download and Reminder tabs section is collapsed when you
land in any account unless there are indeed downloaded transactions.
Hallelujah! Nothing adverse experienced.
May I ask - where did you get Q 15 and what did you pay for it?
 
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Al

Assuming one uses TurboTax, and Intuit continues the usual policy of a
bundle of both TT and Q in November, I don't see why people at this
point in late October are considering buying a standalone version of Q?

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Andrew, I went to 2015 because I was SO *(&^$#@ upset in 2014 with the always-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downloads/reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely reflectmy feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other symbolsand non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....
 
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Arthur Conan Doyle

R. C. White said:
Most noticeable difference is that
2015 shows my Credit Score just below my Net Worth; since my score is good,
I like to see it. <g>
I'd just remind everyone about that internet adage: If you aren't paying for it
(and sometimes even if you are), you are the product being sold. Notes the TOS
for the score:

You agree that we may use and analyze your information as follows: (a) present
you an overview of your credit profile including detailed information where
available; (b) provide you with customized recommendations and general
information about you; and (c) and other communication based on your
information. Intuit may send you information via email, text or online display
or other means of delivery in Intuit's reasonable sole discretion. We may also
aggregate and evaluate your information to do statistical analysis to provide
historical or comparative information and to improve Intuit products and
services.
 
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Andrew

Al said:
Andrew, I went to 2015 because I was SO *(&^$#@ upset in 2014 with the always-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downloads/reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely reflect my feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other symbols and non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....
You certainly did now! :)

I agree that it is annoying and I too look forward to that fix. I guess
my tolorence for that pain is more than yours in this particular regard,
but I do understand.

I think I bought a release of Q a couple of years ago simply because it
gave me the new ability to filter a register via a text box in a single
account which I thought was a nicety.


Enjoy Q 2015....I'm right behind you when the TT/Q bundle appears.
 
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David Arnstein

I'd just remind everyone about that internet adage: If you aren't paying for it
(and sometimes even if you are), you are the product being sold. Notes the TOS
for the score:

You agree that we may use and analyze your information as follows: (a) present
you an overview of your credit profile including detailed information where
available; (b) provide you with customized recommendations and general
information about you; and (c) and other communication based on your
information. Intuit may send you information via email, text or online display
or other means of delivery in Intuit's reasonable sole discretion. We may also
aggregate and evaluate your information to do statistical analysis to provide
historical or comparative information and to improve Intuit products and
services.
Here is a rep. from Intuit claiming that this TOS language is a
mistake:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R2LL0RW0LSM1H9/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ASIN=B00M9GTL6M

See second comment.
 
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charliec

Andrew, I went to 2015 because I was SO *(&^$#@ upset in 2014 with the always-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downloads/reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely reflect my feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other symbols and non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....
Al, a question - when I updated from Q2013 to Q2014, my Online Center/Financial
Institution List was disabled and I had to resetup each Financial Institution in
Q2015 to again use the Online Center for downloads. Did you have this problem
going from 2014 to 2015? Still trying to get insights prior to upgrading.

Thanks
charliec
 
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charliec

Al, a question - when I updated from Q2013 to Q2014, my Online Center/Financial
Institution List was disabled and I had to resetup each Financial Institution in
Q2015 to again use the Online Center for downloads. Did you have this problem
going from 2014 to 2015? Still trying to get insights prior to upgrading.

Thanks
charliec
Sorry, typing mistake - that should have said "Financial Institution in Q2014" -
not Q2015!
charliec
 
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Al

Sorry, typing mistake - that should have said "Financial Institution in Q2014" -
not Q2015!
charliec
Charlie, I faced no issues with disabled FI stuff or anything else of notice except the blessed closing of the reminder sections.
 
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charliec

Charlie, I faced no issues with disabled FI stuff or anything else of notice except the blessed closing of the reminder sections.
Ok, thanks - I will wait for the combo package with TurboTax and go for it!
 
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Stuart Barkley

I'd just remind everyone about that internet adage: If you aren't
paying for it (and sometimes even if you are), you are the product
being sold. Notes the TOS for the score: [...]
As part of my to be continued ranting against the Intuit ID (which I'm
still against, but will probably have to accept), I've also actually
read some of the various Terms of Service, License Agreement, Privacy
Statements, Sides of Boxes and other things written by Intuit. Many
of these do not make sense or are slowly becoming very sloppy for the
Quicken user. Some of them have been changed over the years and but
internal inconsistencies still exist. Some things have had subtle
changes generally for the worse.

Some examples:

Side of box (QW2015):

"...online banking services, now referred to as bank feeds..." The
side of the box seems to be the only place Intuit refers to online
banking as "bank feeds". I haven't found any other place with those
words.

An Internet Connection is now listed as required. In fact, it is now
impossible to use QW2015 without online activation. You are unable to
use QW2015 on a dedicated never Internet connected system. QW2014 had
a "Use Quicken without connecting" link on the registration page but
this is no longer there.

"Intuit will support Quicken 2015 until April 30, 2018 as set forth in
our full policy available at www.quicken.com/go/policy": It used to
be that only the online access quit functioning at that time, not the
entire product. I don't know when that changed since I don't have my
older boxes. Also, the link does not say anything useful about QW2015
sunset policy. At this time it explains mostly about the QW2012
sunset in 2015 and when older versions sunset. Maybe the good part of
this is that Intuit will actually support it with patches and
improvements after June of 2015 and on until 2018.

License agreement issues:

The QW2015 license agreement finally gets rid of the phrase "Quicken
Connected Service" that they had tried for several years but really
only appeared in the license agreements and nowhere much else that I
can find.

CONTENT: The License agreements have gotten progressively looser with
the definition of CONTENT and the freedom and responsibility of Intuit
with whatever CONTENT might be. QW2009 mostly referred to CONTENT as
information on their "Live Community". By QW2012 CONTENT is split
into 3 types: The first type being poorly defined, "Community forum"
content being the second type and feedback to Intuit being the third.
With QW2015 there is a new clause that seems to make it clear that
financial data ("all data you enter or upload") is CONTENT and other
clauses say Intuit can do anything they want with it.

The license agreement "additional terms" for QW2015 should also be
clearer in section 3.1 "Quicken Service" that (a) and (b) only apply
to express web connect and not to direct connect (unless they are
contradicting other documentation). But then, Intuit might prefer to
be vague here so they can actually put themselves in the middle of
direct connect at some point in the future (I do hope my direct
connect banks will say emphatically "NO" to that). This clause
actually first appeared in this approximate form in QW2012.

QW2015 has an extended 3rd party notice section. You can see the
power of Apple there. There are 10 sub-clauses that disclaim Apple of
anything to do with Intuit's product (a little under 10% of the lines
of text in the whole license).

There is another "secret" inconsistency that has crept in over the
years which makes no sense at all. The Intuit lawyers are not doing
their job when they review the License Agreement each year and don't
notice and fix it. I'll leave it to them to find and fix unless they
want to pay me my hourly rate for a couple of days work to tell them
what is wrong (but not how to fix it, IANAL).

Privacy Policy:

Like many web privacy policy it's as good as the paper it's printed on
(i.e. nothing at all). They can change it however they want anytime
they want.

The basic policy is fairly standard, reads as reasonable and has not
changed since 2011.

However, some of the privacy policy implementation is poor. The
opt-out link on the privacy page does not integrate with the Intuit
ID. Also, I have already received third party emails related to my
test Intuit ID. Probably by a well meaning but clueless Intuit
mid-manager who didn't read the security section on Intuits own web
site.

Stuart
 
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rsanborn

I'm getting ready to purchase 2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?

I don't use or want TT. I'm a long time taxact user.
 
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Arthur Conan Doyle

I'm getting ready to purchase 2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?

I don't use or want TT. I'm a long time taxact user.
I have never seen a Q/TT bundle priced less than the individual products. At
best you end up paying a little more than the single product.
 
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Andrew

Arthur said:
I have never seen a Q/TT bundle priced less than the individual products. At
best you end up paying a little more than the single product.
Last year at Best Buy I got the Deluxe Q and T/T bundle for about USD
$108. The year before, I had bought the two individual products that
together totaled USD $115. So indeed the bundle was cheaper (albeit not
by much) that the individual products.
 
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Arthur Conan Doyle

Andrew said:
Last year at Best Buy I got the Deluxe Q and T/T bundle for about USD
$108. The year before, I had bought the two individual products that
together totaled USD $115. So indeed the bundle was cheaper (albeit not
by much) that the individual products.
Agreed, but that's not what the OP asked, which was "will a TT/QD bundle be
priced less than what QD alone is priced at today?"
 
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Andrew

Arthur said:
Agreed, but that's not what the OP asked, which was "will a TT/QD bundle be
priced less than what QD alone is priced at today?"
What??? Not sure what you're talking about with that quote.

Your post only quoted the OP as saying "I'm getting ready to purchase
2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the
bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?"

That's what I was replying to. Perhaps you were answering another question??

btw, I did get the bundle today; Best Buy deducted $35 for the price of Q.)
 
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