Quicken 2015

Discussion in 'Quicken' started by Ken Blake, MVP, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. Ken Blake, MVP

    Porter Smith Guest

    This is weird. Amazon is selling the downloadable version for $84.76. But
    they will ship you a copy on CD for $69.99. Usually the CD version is more
    expensive.
     
    Porter Smith, Oct 28, 2014
    #61
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  2. Ken Blake, MVP

    Andrew Guest

    Assuming one uses TurboTax, and Intuit continues the usual policy of a
    bundle of both TT and Q in November, I don't see why people at this
    point in late October are considering buying a standalone version of Q?
     
    Andrew, Oct 28, 2014
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  3. Ken Blake, MVP

    Guest Guest

    "Andrew" wrote in message
    FWIW, when I got tangled up with the Vanguard switchover, after trying
    "everything" including Quicken Support spending almost 2 hours with me on
    the phone (after a couple of Chat sessions) - all of which failed, Quicken
    gave me 2015 as the fix. And fix it, it did including some of the other
    annoying issues I was experiencing with 2014.

    RIch
     
    Guest, Oct 29, 2014
    #63
  4. Ken Blake, MVP

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Charlie.
    As I posted here on 10/9/14:
    Q 2015D has been working fine for me. (Most noticeable difference is that
    2015 shows my Credit Score just below my Net Worth; since my score is good,
    I like to see it. <g> ) Very little difference from 2014; mostly just
    evolutionary from prior years. But I like to (1) stay up to date and (2)
    support Intuit and encourage them to continue producing and updating Quicken
    and TurboTax. In my opinion, $60 per year ($5 per month) is a small price
    to pay for this.

    RC
    -- --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)

    Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
    (Using Quicken Deluxe 2015 R3 and Windows Live Mail in Win8.1 x64)


    wrote in message
    May I ask - where did you get Q 15 and what did you pay for it?
     
    R. C. White, Oct 29, 2014
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    Al Guest

    Andrew, I went to 2015 because I was SO *(&^$#@ upset in 2014 with the always-open reminder section at bottom of every register whether any downloads/reminders existed or not. If I did not express myself to completely reflectmy feelings about the open section I know there are a lot of other symbolsand non-Roman alphabets I can string together for you.....
     
    Al, Oct 29, 2014
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  6. I'd just remind everyone about that internet adage: If you aren't paying for it
    (and sometimes even if you are), you are the product being sold. Notes the TOS
    for the score:

    You agree that we may use and analyze your information as follows: (a) present
    you an overview of your credit profile including detailed information where
    available; (b) provide you with customized recommendations and general
    information about you; and (c) and other communication based on your
    information. Intuit may send you information via email, text or online display
    or other means of delivery in Intuit's reasonable sole discretion. We may also
    aggregate and evaluate your information to do statistical analysis to provide
    historical or comparative information and to improve Intuit products and
    services.
     
    Arthur Conan Doyle, Oct 30, 2014
    #66
  7. Ken Blake, MVP

    Andrew Guest

    You certainly did now! :)

    I agree that it is annoying and I too look forward to that fix. I guess
    my tolorence for that pain is more than yours in this particular regard,
    but I do understand.

    I think I bought a release of Q a couple of years ago simply because it
    gave me the new ability to filter a register via a text box in a single
    account which I thought was a nicety.


    Enjoy Q 2015....I'm right behind you when the TT/Q bundle appears.
     
    Andrew, Oct 30, 2014
    #67
  8. Here is a rep. from Intuit claiming that this TOS language is a
    mistake:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R2LL0RW0LSM1H9/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ASIN=B00M9GTL6M

    See second comment.
     
    David Arnstein, Oct 30, 2014
    #68
  9. Ken Blake, MVP

    Guest

    Al, a question - when I updated from Q2013 to Q2014, my Online Center/Financial
    Institution List was disabled and I had to resetup each Financial Institution in
    Q2015 to again use the Online Center for downloads. Did you have this problem
    going from 2014 to 2015? Still trying to get insights prior to upgrading.

    Thanks
    charliec
     
    , Oct 30, 2014
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  10. Arthur Conan Doyle, Oct 30, 2014
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  11. Ken Blake, MVP

    Guest

    Sorry, typing mistake - that should have said "Financial Institution in Q2014" -
    not Q2015!
    charliec
     
    , Oct 31, 2014
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  12. Ken Blake, MVP

    Al Guest

    Charlie, I faced no issues with disabled FI stuff or anything else of notice except the blessed closing of the reminder sections.
     
    Al, Oct 31, 2014
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  13. Ken Blake, MVP

    Guest

    Ok, thanks - I will wait for the combo package with TurboTax and go for it!
     
    , Oct 31, 2014
    #73
  14. As part of my to be continued ranting against the Intuit ID (which I'm
    still against, but will probably have to accept), I've also actually
    read some of the various Terms of Service, License Agreement, Privacy
    Statements, Sides of Boxes and other things written by Intuit. Many
    of these do not make sense or are slowly becoming very sloppy for the
    Quicken user. Some of them have been changed over the years and but
    internal inconsistencies still exist. Some things have had subtle
    changes generally for the worse.

    Some examples:

    Side of box (QW2015):

    "...online banking services, now referred to as bank feeds..." The
    side of the box seems to be the only place Intuit refers to online
    banking as "bank feeds". I haven't found any other place with those
    words.

    An Internet Connection is now listed as required. In fact, it is now
    impossible to use QW2015 without online activation. You are unable to
    use QW2015 on a dedicated never Internet connected system. QW2014 had
    a "Use Quicken without connecting" link on the registration page but
    this is no longer there.

    "Intuit will support Quicken 2015 until April 30, 2018 as set forth in
    our full policy available at www.quicken.com/go/policy": It used to
    be that only the online access quit functioning at that time, not the
    entire product. I don't know when that changed since I don't have my
    older boxes. Also, the link does not say anything useful about QW2015
    sunset policy. At this time it explains mostly about the QW2012
    sunset in 2015 and when older versions sunset. Maybe the good part of
    this is that Intuit will actually support it with patches and
    improvements after June of 2015 and on until 2018.

    License agreement issues:

    The QW2015 license agreement finally gets rid of the phrase "Quicken
    Connected Service" that they had tried for several years but really
    only appeared in the license agreements and nowhere much else that I
    can find.

    CONTENT: The License agreements have gotten progressively looser with
    the definition of CONTENT and the freedom and responsibility of Intuit
    with whatever CONTENT might be. QW2009 mostly referred to CONTENT as
    information on their "Live Community". By QW2012 CONTENT is split
    into 3 types: The first type being poorly defined, "Community forum"
    content being the second type and feedback to Intuit being the third.
    With QW2015 there is a new clause that seems to make it clear that
    financial data ("all data you enter or upload") is CONTENT and other
    clauses say Intuit can do anything they want with it.

    The license agreement "additional terms" for QW2015 should also be
    clearer in section 3.1 "Quicken Service" that (a) and (b) only apply
    to express web connect and not to direct connect (unless they are
    contradicting other documentation). But then, Intuit might prefer to
    be vague here so they can actually put themselves in the middle of
    direct connect at some point in the future (I do hope my direct
    connect banks will say emphatically "NO" to that). This clause
    actually first appeared in this approximate form in QW2012.

    QW2015 has an extended 3rd party notice section. You can see the
    power of Apple there. There are 10 sub-clauses that disclaim Apple of
    anything to do with Intuit's product (a little under 10% of the lines
    of text in the whole license).

    There is another "secret" inconsistency that has crept in over the
    years which makes no sense at all. The Intuit lawyers are not doing
    their job when they review the License Agreement each year and don't
    notice and fix it. I'll leave it to them to find and fix unless they
    want to pay me my hourly rate for a couple of days work to tell them
    what is wrong (but not how to fix it, IANAL).

    Privacy Policy:

    Like many web privacy policy it's as good as the paper it's printed on
    (i.e. nothing at all). They can change it however they want anytime
    they want.

    The basic policy is fairly standard, reads as reasonable and has not
    changed since 2011.

    However, some of the privacy policy implementation is poor. The
    opt-out link on the privacy page does not integrate with the Intuit
    ID. Also, I have already received third party emails related to my
    test Intuit ID. Probably by a well meaning but clueless Intuit
    mid-manager who didn't read the security section on Intuits own web
    site.

    Stuart
     
    Stuart Barkley, Nov 1, 2014
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  15. Ken Blake, MVP

    Guest

    I'm getting ready to purchase 2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?

    I don't use or want TT. I'm a long time taxact user.
     
    , Nov 13, 2014
    #75
  16. I have never seen a Q/TT bundle priced less than the individual products. At
    best you end up paying a little more than the single product.
     
    Arthur Conan Doyle, Nov 15, 2014
    #76
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    Andrew Guest

    Last year at Best Buy I got the Deluxe Q and T/T bundle for about USD
    $108. The year before, I had bought the two individual products that
    together totaled USD $115. So indeed the bundle was cheaper (albeit not
    by much) that the individual products.
     
    Andrew, Nov 23, 2014
    #77
  18. Agreed, but that's not what the OP asked, which was "will a TT/QD bundle be
    priced less than what QD alone is priced at today?"
     
    Arthur Conan Doyle, Nov 23, 2014
    #78
  19. Ken Blake, MVP

    Andrew Guest

    What??? Not sure what you're talking about with that quote.

    Your post only quoted the OP as saying "I'm getting ready to purchase
    2015. I know it will soon be available as a bundle with TT. Will the
    bundle be cheaper than it is now (50d/70p on amazon) ?"

    That's what I was replying to. Perhaps you were answering another question??

    btw, I did get the bundle today; Best Buy deducted $35 for the price of Q.)
     
    Andrew, Nov 23, 2014
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    Guest

    , Nov 26, 2014
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