Signed off and on again


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Cash converter

Well as you all know I was signed off by the New Deal brigade even though
there was no change to my circumstances, still unemployed.

I still fail to see what the purpose of this exercise is about, ending
peoples claims only to make them re apply again, they must be desperate for
something to do.

Having gone through finding out how the process works again and what to do,
I filled in the forms and signed the JSA agreement, dealt with the same ND
staff asking me the same pointless questions they ask every time I go to the
JC.

The only good thing about this time wasting is I am never likely to forget
how to register as unemployed, thanks to ND I now know how the system works
inside out.

Other than the above ND staff serve no useful purpose that I can see and I
have come to view them as more unemployed than myself, the only difference
is they spend more time in the JC than I do.

If was in charge of ND the only changes I would make is adding a
refreshments bar, a couple of pool tables and some wide screen TV's.
 
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Niteawk

Cash converter said:
Well as you all know I was signed off by the New Deal brigade even though
there was no change to my circumstances, still unemployed.

I still fail to see what the purpose of this exercise is about, ending
peoples claims only to make them re apply again, they must be desperate for
something to do.

Having gone through finding out how the process works again and what to do,
I filled in the forms and signed the JSA agreement, dealt with the same ND
staff asking me the same pointless questions they ask every time I go to the
JC.

The only good thing about this time wasting is I am never likely to forget
how to register as unemployed, thanks to ND I now know how the system works
inside out.

Other than the above ND staff serve no useful purpose that I can see and I
have come to view them as more unemployed than myself, the only difference
is they spend more time in the JC than I do.

If was in charge of ND the only changes I would make is adding a
refreshments bar, a couple of pool tables and some wide screen TV's.
It amazes me how this govt can afford to employ all these petty bureaucrats
who are of no use to the public whatsoever, yet when it comes to putting a
few coppers on the beat or investing in jobs and proper training for the
unemployed they cant afford it.
 
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Netty

Cash converter said:
Well as you all know I was signed off by the New Deal brigade even though
there was no change to my circumstances, still unemployed.

I still fail to see what the purpose of this exercise is about, ending
peoples claims only to make them re apply again, they must be desperate for
something to do.
They're not desperate for something to do, far from it in fact!
Having gone through finding out how the process works again and what to do,
I filled in the forms and signed the JSA agreement, dealt with the same ND
staff asking me the same pointless questions they ask every time I go to the
JC.
The questions aren't pointless - they're just checking there is no change in
circumstances since you last filled in a claim form.
The only good thing about this time wasting is I am never likely to forget
how to register as unemployed, thanks to ND I now know how the system works
inside out.

Other than the above ND staff serve no useful purpose that I can see and I
have come to view them as more unemployed than myself, the only difference
is they spend more time in the JC than I do.

If was in charge of ND the only changes I would make is adding a
refreshments bar, a couple of pool tables and some wide screen TV's.
Nice idea! But how would the bar and pool tables help in getting you back
into work?!?!?
 
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Liam

Other than the above ND staff serve no useful purpose that I can see and I
have come to view them as more unemployed than myself, the only difference
is they spend more time in the JC than I do.

If was in charge of ND the only changes I would make is adding a
refreshments bar, a couple of pool tables and some wide screen TV's.
I think you will find that the staff wouldn't mind these extra amenities :)

Jobcentre staff are something else and having worked along side them for a
good few years I am shocked how they get by. Its not really their fault
though. The training they recieve is very minimal.
 
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Mike

Netty said:
They're not desperate for something to do, far from it in fact!




The questions aren't pointless - they're just checking there is no change in
circumstances since you last filled in a claim form.




Nice idea! But how would the bar and pool tables help in getting you back
into work?!?!?
Professional pool player! On the job training as bar staff and doormen.

Of course the JC could try and offset their losses paying benefits &
wages by recouping money in the bar. After all, at approaching to £3
per pint, with city/town centre locations and there WILL BE NO TROUBLE
recruiting bar staff at min wage; a massive profit for the bar is
assured. Any one kicks off in the bar, their benefit gets be suspended.

Mike
 
C

Cash converter

Netty said:
They're not desperate for something to do, far from it in fact!
Killing time is not easy :)

The questions aren't pointless - they're just checking there is no change in
circumstances since you last filled in a claim form.


Nice idea! But how would the bar and pool tables help in getting you back
into work?!?!?
People would look forward to going to the JC and spend longer looking for
work if it was more user friendly and as Mike pointed out, the JC can make
money out of it, but I was thinking along the lines of a subsidised non
alcoholic bar, tea coffee and sandwiches.
As for getting me back into work, most of my time would be spent in the JC
playing pool, as soon as a job comes in I am there ready to apply for it.
 
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Cash converter

Liam said:
I think you will find that the staff wouldn't mind these extra amenities :)

Jobcentre staff are something else and having worked along side them for a
good few years I am shocked how they get by. Its not really their fault
though. The training they recieve is very minimal.
I understand its not their fault, its not easy having to go over the same
ground as the call centre and JC staff, then screw the whole thing up, how
many depts of staff do they need to do one job when your font line JC staff
cover all the bases.
 
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Liam

I understand its not their fault, its not easy having to go over the same
ground as the call centre and JC staff, then screw the whole thing up, how
many depts of staff do they need to do one job when your font line JC
staff
cover all the bases.
It's great now we are all joining as one properly (ex-benefits agency staff
and jobcentre staff). Not only do BA and Jobcentre staff hate each other,
the Jobcentre staff now have to do most of the processing of claims after
having about 4 days training on three different benefits. I had 13 weeks
training on Jobseekers Allowance alone and when i came out of training there
is still so much to learn. Now the processing staff have to accept what the
Jobcentre people have done regarding new claims. This is causing a bit of a
fuss and management keep saying "lets just see how it goes". The whole
process is flawed and completely pants. Everyone knows it, im glad i'll be
gone from the Dept forever very soon.
 
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Martin Davies

Liam said:
It's great now we are all joining as one properly (ex-benefits agency staff
and jobcentre staff). Not only do BA and Jobcentre staff hate each other,
the Jobcentre staff now have to do most of the processing of claims after
having about 4 days training on three different benefits. I had 13 weeks
training on Jobseekers Allowance alone and when i came out of training there
is still so much to learn. Now the processing staff have to accept what the
Jobcentre people have done regarding new claims. This is causing a bit of a
fuss and management keep saying "lets just see how it goes". The whole
process is flawed and completely pants. Everyone knows it, im glad i'll be
gone from the Dept forever very soon.
LOL.
CSA found the same problem when benefit agency staff started doing the good
cause interviews, with little clue about what CSA needed.

Martin <><
 
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Netty

Liam said:
It's great now we are all joining as one properly (ex-benefits agency staff
and jobcentre staff). Not only do BA and Jobcentre staff hate each other,
the Jobcentre staff now have to do most of the processing of claims after
having about 4 days training on three different benefits. I had 13 weeks
training on Jobseekers Allowance alone and when i came out of training there
is still so much to learn. Now the processing staff have to accept what the
Jobcentre people have done regarding new claims. This is causing a bit of a
fuss and management keep saying "lets just see how it goes". The whole
process is flawed and completely pants. Everyone knows it, im glad i'll be
gone from the Dept forever very soon.
JCP rollout = one big headache!!!
 
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Liam

LOL.
CSA found the same problem when benefit agency staff started doing the
good
cause interviews, with little clue about what CSA needed.
Yes i have to admit on our section so many cases are not identified because
people have no idea about them or what to do on the system!
 

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