Signing off


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ghostwhistler

....something else the JC seem to want to make difficult.

I'm due in on thursday as my normal fortnightly signing time. I wanted
to forego that and post the pull out part of the signing booklet and
sign off - somethign the booklet says you can do: you sign the form
and post it back to say you've done no work and are signing off.

Well now the JC have said you have to come in and that I can't post it
off because it's my normal signing day and that if i don't i will have
to pay back the money (which because it's xmas has been sent out
already) for the period up to the 20th.

This seems directly contrary to what the form does and says. This
can't be right can it? I wanted to sign up to the 27th (because I was
also told you can claim up to 7 days in advance when you sign off), bt
it seems that you can't. Why? well rules is rules gov!

Surely this is bollocks and I can just post the form off and be done
with it. I don't really want to stand around for an hour either side
of the appointment in the freezing cold (which is what i will have to
be doing) just to hand in a fucking form to say I don't want to claim
any more.

Fucks sake, what's wrong with this organisation that it can't let you
just sign off!
 
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Robbie

...something else the JC seem to want to make difficult.

I'm due in on thursday as my normal fortnightly signing time. I wanted
to forego that and post the pull out part of the signing booklet and
sign off - somethign the booklet says you can do: you sign the form
and post it back to say you've done no work and are signing off.

Well now the JC have said you have to come in and that I can't post it
off because it's my normal signing day and that if i don't i will have
to pay back the money (which because it's xmas has been sent out
already) for the period up to the 20th.

This seems directly contrary to what the form does and says. This
can't be right can it? I wanted to sign up to the 27th (because I was
also told you can claim up to 7 days in advance when you sign off), bt
it seems that you can't. Why? well rules is rules gov!

Surely this is bollocks and I can just post the form off and be done
with it. I don't really want to stand around for an hour either side
of the appointment in the freezing cold (which is what i will have to
be doing) just to hand in a fucking form to say I don't want to claim
any more.

Fucks sake, what's wrong with this organisation that it can't let you
just sign off!
But you're still unemployed on Thursday - so if you don't sign on you
won't be able to get the money. The form is meant to be used by people
who sign off, for whatever reason, between the two weeks in between
their signing days.
 
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ghostwhistler

But you're still unemployed on Thursday - so if you don't sign on you
won't be able to get the money. The form is meant to be used by people
who sign off, for whatever reason, between the two weeks in between
their signing days.
So bloody what? what's the point of making me come in just to process
closing the claim? Just something to keep the jobsworths and the
fucking nazi's happy. They get their kicks out of screwing people like
me around while I get to stand about freezing my balls off waiting for
them to open in the morning. They couldn't just say 'good for you,
good luck in the future'. No, I still have to dance to their fucking
tune one more fucking time.
 
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Mike

So bloody what? what's the point of making me come in just to process
closing the claim? Just something to keep the jobsworths and the
fucking nazi's happy. They get their kicks out of screwing people like
me around while I get to stand about freezing my balls off waiting for
them to open in the morning. They couldn't just say 'good for you,
good luck in the future'. No, I still have to dance to their fucking
tune one more fucking time.- Hide quoted text -

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Yes tht's right you still have to dance one more time.

If you are unemployed on thurs you HAVE to sign on it's as simple as
that, if you found work tomorrow (i.e before you're normal signing
day) you can use the form.

Sign on, hand in your card (completed!!) wish them a merry christmas
and stop whining, be grateful they're not going to send you on a
course. Season of goodwill my arse.

Mike
 
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ghostwhistler

Yes tht's right you still have to dance one more time.

If you are unemployed on thurs you HAVE to sign on it's as simple as
that, if you found work tomorrow (i.e before you're normal signing
day) you can use the form.

Sign on, hand in your card (completed!!) wish them a merry christmas
and stop whining, be grateful they're not going to send you on a
course. Season of goodwill my arse.

Mike
I might just post the form off tomorrow, I really can't face dealing
with them again. Dealing with the JC everytime has been like
swallowing arsenic. it's not as if i live down the road from the place
either (not that they care, tough shit for me as ever).
 
R

Robbie

I might just post the form off tomorrow, I really can't face dealing
with them again. Dealing with the JC everytime has been like
swallowing arsenic. it's not as if i live down the road from the place
either (not that they care, tough shit for me as ever).
If you don't sign on tomorrow then you'll be dealing with the JC for
some time to come anyway. Firstly you'll not get any more money - what
they owe you from Friday to whenever will be offset against the
overpayment of the money they've already sent out to you and then you'll
just get a shitful of letters chasing up money from you from their debt
recovery section.

But if it gives you more reason to moan, then go ahead and don't sign on
- your loss at the end of the day.
 
G

ghostwhistler

Yes tht's right you still have to dance one more time.

If you are unemployed on thurs you HAVE to sign on it's as simple as
that, if you found work tomorrow (i.e before you're normal signing
day) you can use the form.

Sign on, hand in your card (completed!!) wish them a merry christmas
and stop whining, be grateful they're not going to send you on a
course. Season of goodwill my arse.

Mike
I might just post the form off tomorrow, I really can't face dealing
with them again. Dealing with the JC everytime has been like
swallowing arsenic. it's not as if i live down the road from the place
either (not that they care, tough shit for me as ever).
 
G

ghostwhistler

If you don't sign on tomorrow then you'll be dealing with the JC for
some time to come anyway. Firstly you'll not get any more money - what
they owe you from Friday to whenever will be offset against the
overpayment of the money they've already sent out to you and then you'll
just get a shitful of letters chasing up money from you from their debt
recovery section.

But if it gives you more reason to moan, then go ahead and don't sign on
- your loss at the end of the day.
im not due to sign on tomorrow, why don't you read more clearly.

I might sign off tomorrow instead of thursday because i can't be
bothered to deal with the cunts.
 
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Niteawk

...something else the JC seem to want to make difficult.

I'm due in on thursday as my normal fortnightly signing time. I wanted
to forego that and post the pull out part of the signing booklet and
sign off - somethign the booklet says you can do: you sign the form
and post it back to say you've done no work and are signing off.

Well now the JC have said you have to come in and that I can't post it
off because it's my normal signing day and that if i don't i will have
to pay back the money (which because it's xmas has been sent out
already) for the period up to the 20th.

This seems directly contrary to what the form does and says. This
can't be right can it? I wanted to sign up to the 27th (because I was
also told you can claim up to 7 days in advance when you sign off), bt
it seems that you can't. Why? well rules is rules gov!

Surely this is bollocks and I can just post the form off and be done
with it. I don't really want to stand around for an hour either side
of the appointment in the freezing cold (which is what i will have to
be doing) just to hand in a fucking form to say I don't want to claim
any more.

Fucks sake, what's wrong with this organisation that it can't let you
just sign off!
C'mon on ghost, dont be like that, play by the rules and phone in sick on
that day, you are allowed 2 weeks on sick, then send your form in 2 weeks
later.
 
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ghostwhistler

C'mon on ghost, dont be like that, play by the rules and phone in sick on
that day, you are allowed 2 weeks on sick, then send your form in 2 weeks
later.
lol, i bet they don't allow that!
 
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ghostwhistler

Why? its their rules ;)
all i will be doing is postponing it. I will still have to come in
later on and sign for that period.

And i bet if youre ill they will either say come in or no benefit
unless you have a drs note to say you were ill. otherwise ppl woudl be
getting out of signing on all the time. they wont pay my benefit until
i come in.

whats really stupid is their booklet makes no mention of this; it just
says sign the tear off declaration and post it in. Had i not rung them
today to say thats what i was going to do out of courtesy (whcih is
mro thn i get from then) then i would be blissfully ignorant of the
problem i'd be facing.
 
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ghostwhistler

Why? its their rules ;)
all i will be doing is postponing it. I will still have to come in
later on and sign for that period.

And i bet if youre ill they will either say come in or no benefit
unless you have a drs note to say you were ill. otherwise ppl woudl be
getting out of signing on all the time. they wont pay my benefit until
i come in.

whats really stupid is their booklet makes no mention of this; it just
says sign the tear off declaration and post it in. Had i not rung them
today to say thats what i was going to do out of courtesy (whcih is
mro thn i get from then) then i would be blissfully ignorant of the
problem i'd be facing.
 
G

ghostwhistler

all i will be doing is postponing it. I will still have to come in
later on and sign for that period.

And i bet if youre ill they will either say come in or no benefit
unless you have a drs note to say you were ill. otherwise ppl woudl be
getting out of signing on all the time. they wont pay my benefit until
i come in.

whats really stupid is their booklet makes no mention of this; it just
says sign the tear off declaration and post it in. Had i not rung them
today to say thats what i was going to do out of courtesy (whcih is
mro thn i get from then) then i would be blissfully ignorant of the
problem i'd be facing.
btw, where can i find these rules?
 
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ghostwhistler

But he doesn't want to go there!
That's right. I'm sick of the way they treat you. Everytime see their
literature with all the happy smiley photos of 'customers' interacting
with 'staff' and its all smiles I want to kill them in the face; it's
not ike that at all. The JC treat you like a common criminal; with
suspicion not with respect.
 
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Mike

I might just post the form off tomorrow, I really can't face dealing
with them again. Dealing with the JC everytime has been like
swallowing arsenic. it's not as if i live down the road from the place
either (not that they care, tough shit for me as ever).- Hide quoted text -

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You'll lose out on benefits 20-27/12 just to avoid what will probably
be the most hassle free signing on day? Well either you've got a
dream job/employer (ManU may have an opening soon but watch fergie ;
0) ) or you won't last a month at work!

Mike
 
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Mike

all i will be doing is postponing it. I will still have to come in
later on and sign for that period.

And i bet if youre ill they will either say come in or no benefit
unless you have a drs note to say you were ill. otherwise ppl woudl be
getting out of signing on all the time. they wont pay my benefit until
i come in.

whats really stupid is their booklet makes no mention of this; it just
says sign the tear off declaration and post it in. Had i not rung them
today to say thats what i was going to do out of courtesy (whcih is
mro thn i get from then) then i would be blissfully ignorant of the
problem i'd be facing.- Hide quoted text -

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The JC allow you two periods of upto 2 wks sick per year without
having to sign off and yes people do do it quite regularly. However
if memory serves you would have to ring in on your signing day and go
in to sign on as soon as you were fit and couldn't just send in your
card.

Faliure to do will probably result in an overpayment that they will
persue you for. I believe they use baliffs for people not on benefits
who don't pay up, though that might depend on the sums involved.
Bearing in mind you pay for the baliffs costs, if they send a demand
you'd be wise to pay up.

Seems like you are desperate to avoid having to get- up thursday
morning even to the extent of losing a week or so benefit.

Mike
 
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ghostwhistler

You'll lose out on benefits 20-27/12 just to avoid what will probably
be the most hassle free signing on day? Well either you've got a
dream job/employer (ManU may have an opening soon but watch fergie ;
0) ) or you won't last a month at work!

Mike
I probably won't, but that's because of the problems I have right now.
Problems that aren't helped by the JC who make everything much more
difficult than it needs to be. I'm fed up dealing with them, I'm fed
up being accused of breaking the law and I'm fed up being treated wiht
suspicion by people who lie and twist the truth to suit their own
ends. If that's the working world then I'd rather starve.
But yes, right now I probably won't last a month in work, that's why
I see a doctor and take medication.
 

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