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Derek Hornby

Alan Hope said:
You and Turtill are as bad as each other.
Time to put you in the kill file with your mate ~Turtill.

If we take a look back on his thread we find that all your posts are
simply aimed at an off topic argument with myself.
YOu have not joined in any of the debate with any of the other posters.
 
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Derek Hornby

Pat P said:
I was still thinking in terms of the original discussion regarding those
youngsters who get pregnant knowing that "The State will provide!" If the
parent is left by the partner after a few years, then at least she can then
get a job to maintain it and herself.
But then we are back to the issue what if she just wants to stay at home,
after all the state will make that possible!

The problem Is I think that if state didn't help the child would suffer.

Maybe a case to consider adoption.
If one cannot afford to bring up a child then rather than seek benefits
the child should go for adoption.
Derek
 
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Snake Lady

Derek Hornby said:
But then we are back to the issue what if she just wants to stay at home,
after all the state will make that possible!

The problem Is I think that if state didn't help the child would suffer.

Maybe a case to consider adoption.
If one cannot afford to bring up a child then rather than seek benefits
the child should go for adoption.
Derek
We do not yet live in a police state, each case has to be assessed
differently, no two cases are the same. You cannot judge all teenagers as
scrounging parasites!!
 
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Tone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5217634.stm

With teenage girls now choosing pregnancy as a "career option", according
to a leading charity, three young mothers talk about how they dealt with the
experience.

Britain has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe and they cost
the country about £63m a year.

73 million pounds a year!
So please explain where this money is going?
And, what of this matter that some girls choose pregnancy, as a "career option",
Rather than take the low paid jobs.
Derek
Ever heard the phrase
"Don't believe the hype"

Seems like you are believing it

14 year olds don't get any benefit
 
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Derek Hornby

From The Times 10 August 206

A woman who claimed nearly £50,000 in benefits as a single
mother has told Cardiff Crown Court that she did not declare any
information about her live-in partner because they did not have sex.
Mark Evans, QC, the Recorder, has indicated that he will fine Jayne
Taleb, 44, and order her to return the money.
 
M

me

But then we are back to the issue what if she just wants to stay at home,
after all the state will make that possible!
You are deaf and blind and live on benefits. Are you saying the state
shouldn't support you either? Or is it just other people who are on
benefits you object to.
 
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me

We do not yet live in a police state, each case has to be assessed
differently, no two cases are the same. You cannot judge all teenagers as
scrounging parasites!!
I think you will find that drek doesn't get DLA and that is why he
reckons others shouldn't get any benefits either.
 
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Pat P

Cynic said:
So you believe that people should be *compelled* to get married before
starting a family?
I certainly believe that it is best to be married, or at the very least have
as permanent relationship as possible before even thinking of having
children.

Pat P
 
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Pat P

Alex Heney said:
What does "common sense" have to do with it?

And there are quite a few women around who want children, but don't
want a permanent partner.

Not a huge proportion, but enough that you can't say it is "a mistake
in anyone's book".
That brings up the sorry present day attitude of "I want, therefore I must
have!" Never mind who has to finance your selfishness.

Pat P
 
M

me

From The Times 10 August 206

A woman who claimed nearly £50,000 in benefits as a single
mother has told Cardiff Crown Court that she did not declare any
information about her live-in partner because they did not have sex.
Mark Evans, QC, the Recorder, has indicated that he will fine Jayne
Taleb, 44, and order her to return the money.
The law in this case is being applied. Do you think she should have
been let off because she wasn't getting any sex like you. I can
understand emphasing with some one in a similar position as yourself
but surely if she is claiming benefits wrongly she should be taken to
court.
p.s. Why are you x-posting everything?
 
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Pat P

Snake Lady said:
We do not yet live in a police state, each case has to be assessed
differently, no two cases are the same. You cannot judge all teenagers
as scrounging parasites!!
It`s the ones who are that we are protesting about. With the ones who
aren`t, there`s no problem to discuss!

Pat P
 
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me

I certainly believe that it is best to be married, or at the very least have
as permanent relationship as possible before even thinking of having
children.
You would at your age. How do you expect youngsters to find a place to
live when you and others have bought all the council houses?
 
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The Wanderer

From The Times 10 August 206

A woman who claimed nearly £50,000 in benefits as a single
mother has told Cardiff Crown Court that she did not declare any
information about her live-in partner because they did not have sex.
Mark Evans, QC, the Recorder, has indicated that he will fine Jayne
Taleb, 44, and order her to return the money.
Now just why did you cross post this message to uk.local.east-anglia and
free.uk.talk.ipswich, when the case was heard in Cardiff?

You're *deliberately* fishing for a particular response, and instead
showing yourself up for what you are, a pratt.

Irrelevant NGs removed.
 
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Mike

Pat said:
Mind you, I have a sneaking sympathy for that one - men RARELY listen
properly. Either that or just swear blind that you never told them
something when you known darned well that you did!

Pat P
That's because women can chat away for 2hrs of which a man is only
interested in 30 secs; what's for dinner and anything to do with the
likeleyhood of sex. BOGOFs at ASDA are not remotely interested.
At the start of a relationship you can force yourself to be interested
or at least look like you are, but months years later you just nod and
Women know this so I compare it to spin doctoring were bad news is
buried in the mundane announcements governments make all the time.
Worse still is saying something that completely distracts from the thing
you don't want the man to hear e.g. "lets try something different in bed
tonight" and whilst all kinds thoughts and images race through a chaps
head: "I came of the pill last week".

Mike
 
M

me

That brings up the sorry present day attitude of "I want, therefore I must
have!" Never mind who has to finance your selfishness.
And you? You I believe had a disabled child and make sure it lives far
away from where you are. You a mother doing that and calling others
selfish just about takes the carrot.
 
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Mike

Derek said:
From The Times 10 August 206

A woman who claimed nearly £50,000 in benefits as a single
mother has told Cardiff Crown Court that she did not declare any
information about her live-in partner because they did not have sex.
Mark Evans, QC, the Recorder, has indicated that he will fine Jayne
Taleb, 44, and order her to return the money.
Yes, sex is one aspect that is looked at IF information is provided
however the absence of sex does not rule out a stable relationship.
For it to get to a prosecution the DWP must have had VERY solid evidence
that they were a couple.

Mike
 
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M

me

It`s the ones who are that we are protesting about. With the ones who
aren`t, there`s no problem to discuss!
*WE* are protesting. Who we? Have you formed a club or have you been
elected as a spokesperson for some group?
 
M

me

Now just why did you cross post this message to uk.local.east-anglia and
free.uk.talk.ipswich, when the case was heard in Cardiff?

You're *deliberately* fishing for a particular response, and instead
showing yourself up for what you are, a pratt.

Irrelevant NGs removed.
Good move. It is about time every one of us only replied to the group
we are posting from to stop this cross posting nonsense a couple or
three posters in the disabled NG keep putting up to cause an argument.
 
M

me

That's because women can chat away for 2hrs of which a man is only
interested in 30 secs; what's for dinner and anything to do with the
likeleyhood of sex. BOGOFs at ASDA are not remotely interested.
At the start of a relationship you can force yourself to be interested
or at least look like you are, but months years later you just nod and
Women know this so I compare it to spin doctoring were bad news is
buried in the mundane announcements governments make all the time.
Worse still is saying something that completely distracts from the thing
you don't want the man to hear e.g. "lets try something different in bed
tonight" and whilst all kinds thoughts and images race through a chaps
head: "I came of the pill last week".
Pat's husband is aware of that and has gone deaf. John is deaf isn't
he Pat?
 
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Cynic

I certainly believe that it is best to be married, or at the very least have
as permanent relationship as possible before even thinking of having
children.
So do I - but that wasn't the question I asked.
 

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