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Sam Spade

I now have Windows 7 home premium x64 and I am hoping someone familiar with
my operating system can supply detailed instructions in getting that forum
on my other pc. I can also be emailed at (e-mail address removed) .
TIA
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Sam Spade" <sloopokespam@opto.net>

| I now have Windows 7 home premium x64 and I am hoping someone familiar with
| my operating system can supply detailed instructions in getting that forum
| on my other pc. I can also be emailed at .
| TIA

This isn't a forum, this is a Usenet news group and what you wrote makes no sense.
 
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Andrew

David said:
This isn't a forum, this is a Usenet news group and what you wrote
makes no sense.
If the OP wants to know how to post and read in this NG, I would think
however he did it on the old machine will work on the new one, no?
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Andrew" <andrew@jkl.com>


| If the OP wants to know how to post and read in this NG, I would think
| however he did it on the old machine will work on the new one, no?

Maybe. He did post HERE using WinXP and OE6.

He should look into a good NNTP client for Win7 such as Mozilla ThunderBird and
MicroPlanet Gravity.
 
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Han

From: "Andrew" <andrew@jkl.com>



| If the OP wants to know how to post and read in this NG, I would
| think however he did it on the old machine will work on the new one,
| no?

Maybe. He did post HERE using WinXP and OE6.

He should look into a good NNTP client for Win7 such as Mozilla
ThunderBird and MicroPlanet Gravity.
Why not Xnews? No html, no risks
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Han" <nobody@nospam.not>


| Why not Xnews? No html, no risks

I use Luu Tran's XNews (for other reasons).
 
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R. C. White

?Hi, Sam.

Since you posted with Outlook Express, you must be using Windows XP. Like
other Windows versions before it, WinXP came with OE, a news and mail client
embedded as an integral part of the OS. Vista did not include OE, but did
include its successor, called Windows Mail. The main difference between OE
and WM is in the method of storing messages. OE stores all the messages in
a few .dbx files, which OE calls "folders"; Vista stores each message in its
own file: .eml (for email messages) or .nws (for newsgroup posts). In OE,
a single corrupted message could ruin a thousand messages in a single .dbx
file. In Vista's WM, only the one message would be lost, while the other
999 would be unaffected.

Win7 is the first Windows version to come with NO mail/news client of any
kind. Microsoft says we are free to choose any mail/news app we want, such
as those suggested here already, plus many others. We can buy Microsoft's
Outlook, either standalone or as a part of the Office suite, but that
handles only email, not newsgroups.

Or we can download Windows Live Mail, which traces its roots back to OE/WM.
While there certainly are noticeable differences from the earlier programs,
as a user since the first OE in 1995, I recognize much of the user interface
from those predecessors - even with the introduction of the Ribbon UI like
in Office 2007/2010) in the latest WLM 2011. Many users do not like this
latest version, and it does have some inexcusable bugs in it, but I like it
enough to keep using it - while hoping for improvements in the next build.
(Some users prefer WLM 2009, which was recently removed, but can still be
found, probably.) WLM uses .eml and .nws files, like WM, rather than .dbx,
like OE.

Windows Live Mail is a part of the Windows Live Essentials suite, which is
free for the download from:
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials?os=other

As you will see there, you can choose one or as many as you like of the
Essentials, including Mail, Messenger, Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and
others. These will run in any version of Win7 or Vista; pre-2011 builds
will also run in WinXP. (We often use WLMail and WLMsgr when we need to
distinguish between the Mail and Messenger apps.)

To me, Microsoft's handling of mail/news in Win7 is kind of like a Ford
dealer saying, "No, your new car does not include a radio, so you are free
to buy one at Best Buy or Wal*Mart or wherever you like. Or, if you prefer,
just drive around back and we'll install our new Ford radio, no charge."

If you choose to download and install WLM, you can easily import your
mail/news accounts and messages from OE, so long as they are on media
accessible to the program.


After all that background...

Once WLM is installed, if you do not Import your News Account, you can
create the account just as you did in OE - almost. The developers hid the
Menu Bar (File | View...etc.) in WLM 2009, and we had to press <Alt> to see
it so that we could use the familiar Tools | Accounts sequence. In WLM
2011, we click Accounts to produce that Ribbon and then click Newsgroup.
Then we enter our own name and our News Server. Your other message says
your ISP (your cable company) provides the server, news.optonline.net , so
just enter that when you get to the "Add a Newsgroup Account" screen.
There's a box to check if you have to log on, but you should not need to
check this.

Then you'll need to Subscribe to this newsgroup. It should be near the top
of a LONG list of available newsgroups. Just type "quicken" into the
easily-overlooked search box at the top of the window and you should see no
more than half-dozen options. Choose alt.comp.software.financial.quicken
and press the Space bar to Subscribe. Then OK your way out.

That's all there is to it, in most cases. Later you can delve into WLM's
Tools screens and customize the program to suit the way YOU want to use it -
just like you did in OE. Those screens are almost identical to OE/WM.

And, techy or no, this is NOT a Forum. It is a Newsgroup, a part of the
worldwide Usenet, using NNTP (the Network News Transport Protocol) in a
newsreader client. Not in a browser, like Internet Explorer, which uses
HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol).

Sorry for the long message, Sam, but you DID ask for details. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta


"Sam Spade" wrote in message
I now have Windows 7 home premium x64 and I am hoping someone familiar with
my operating system can supply detailed instructions in getting that forum
on my other pc. I can also be emailed at (e-mail address removed) .
TIA
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>

< snip >

| And, techy or no, this is NOT a Forum. It is a Newsgroup, a part of the
| worldwide Usenet, using NNTP (the Network News Transport Protocol) in a
| newsreader client. Not in a browser, like Internet Explorer, which uses
| HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol).

| Sorry for the long message, Sam, but you DID ask for details. ;^}

< snip >

+1 :)
 
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Frank Kirk

Sorry for the long message, Sam, but you DID ask for details. ;^}

Don't apologize. Damned interesting lesson. Thanks.
 
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