Trivia: Dogged solicitors


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Troy Steadman

Ronald Raygun said:
If their "excellent" solicitors didn't explain it to them at the time,
in layman's terms, they were ripped off and should demand a partial
refund of those £170ph.
I can't let you get away with that jibe Ronald, remember I use to
audit solicitors and I know a good solicitor when I see one:

Q: "With which unwinnable case will the small firm of J. R. Jones of
Ealing in SW London be forever gloriously and inextricably linked?"

....and ours is a good one.

Choosing a solicitor (or an accountant) is like ordering a tiger for
your zoo. You want one that snarls and hisses and prowls and attacks
and has sharp teeth. You don't want a meek tiger who says (Nogood
O'Boyo style) "The rules say we've lost so we've lost".

You want one who says: "We never lose, we never give up, there's
always something that can be done".

Our solicitor (Gummersalls in Epsom) took on our conveyancing at a
fixed rate (£495 + VAT IIRC) back in 1999 . It soon became obvious
that the whole thing was a dog's breakfast, there were four titles and
a small defect in one of them which had been missed by two previous
sets of solicitors. Time and again I said I'd release him from the
fixed rate as the problems unravelled, but months later after days of
work in came the bill: £495 + VAT.

And with it a letter: "For my own satisfaction I am going to pursue
this case even though I suspect it is hopeless..." And pursue it he
did, keeping us informed of the progress, until he ran up against the
final brick wall.

Beat that!
 
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Daytona

Our solicitor (Gummersalls in Epsom)
Thanks Troy - always good to know of good people, and in this case
they're reasonably close to me. Is it a one man band or is the whole
partnership good ?

Daytona
 
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Troy Steadman

Thanks Troy - always good to know of good people, and in this case
they're reasonably close to me. Is it a one man band or is the whole
partnership good ?

Daytona
I only know the two bits I dealt with, Conveyancing and Family/IHT
were good. The Convyancing partner is still there, I would expect the
ethos of a good firm to ensure all parts of it were up to scratch, they
all suffer if somebody makes a mistake.




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D

Daytona

Troy Steadman said:
I only know the two bits I dealt with, Conveyancing and Family/IHT
were good. The Convyancing partner is still there, I would expect the
ethos of a good firm to ensure all parts of it were up to scratch, they
all suffer if somebody makes a mistake.
I agree - like-minded people generally attract like-minded people.

More info. here for anyone that stumbles across this in future -
<URL:http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor/view=lawfirmdetails.law?orgid=74839&searchType=L>

Daytona
 
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Troy Steadman

I agree - like-minded people generally attract like-minded people.

More info. here for anyone that stumbles across this in future -
<URL:http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor/view=lawfirmdetails.law?orgid=74839&searchType=L>

Daytona
Gumersalls (one "m") has 5 partners, 2 consultants and 2 associates. The
associates probably only work odd days as and when. Each specialises in
a narrow field and they can punch very hard.

Take the answer to the trivia question. These people chose a much
smaller practice with young solicitors in the days when Imran
Khan was a cricketer and nobody had ever heard of their son.

http://www.jrjones.co.uk/new site/firm.htm




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GB

Daytona said:
I agree - like-minded people generally attract like-minded people.
I've been instructed by Gumersalls recently - their family dept. Nice,
efficient firm to deal with.

Geoff
 
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Troy Steadman

GB said:
I've been instructed by Gumersalls recently - their family dept. Nice,
efficient firm to deal with.

Geoff
Most solicitors *had* (I'm not saying *have*) heaps of blue files lying
all over the place stacked up all over the floor. If one of them falls
over you'd never get them back into sequence. I know things are better
in most practices *now* but:

These four Titles were interesting to us, each showed a different period
of the house and its surroundings. Three years after completion I
happened to be in Epsom and casually went into Gumersalls to ask if I
could get photocopies of the Title Deeds.

They knew who I was, knew what I wanted, they hadn't archived their
files in Grimsby or Lee-on-Solent etc, they made the common-sense
decision that they might as well give me the obsolete originals, I
walked out with them and have had them framed.



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Ronald Raygun

Troy said:
I can't let you get away with that jibe Ronald, remember I use to
audit solicitors and I know a good solicitor when I see one:

Q: "With which unwinnable case will the small firm of J. R. Jones of
Ealing in SW London be forever gloriously and inextricably linked?"

...and ours is a good one.
If you think it's good to be left in the dark, fair enough. Me?
I'd want to know at least the bones of what it was they did for me,
and not be treated like a moron who in their view doesn't need to know.
Choosing a solicitor (or an accountant) is like ordering a tiger for
your zoo. You want one that snarls and hisses and prowls and attacks
and has sharp teeth. You don't want a meek tiger
Thanks, I do like to be reminded of Mrs Packletide.
You want one who says: "We never lose, we never give up, there's
always something that can be done".
"There's always something we can get you to pay us to do", more like!

Although in your case they carried on for their own satisfaction "on
the house", the fact that they did hit a brick wall in the end should
not be forgotten. Pity they weren't clever enough to realise early on
that they were bound to hit it.

One hopes this personal vendetta was not fought at the expense of
other clients' interests being given lower priority.
 
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Troy Steadman

Ronald Raygun said:
If you think it's good to be left in the dark, fair enough. Me?
I'd want to know at least the bones of what it was they did for me,
and not be treated like a moron who in their view doesn't need to know.
Ronald I am quite sure they told us over and over again what was
involved and I am quite sure we tried our best to understand it, if I
understand now it is purely because of your help.

We had no choice. Only one option was available to us.


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