Update on maternity


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Susan

Re :- the maternity post I made

You are all probably right , and I don't disagree with you for one moment
that
this is the way the DWP work.

But I tell you this, they are wrong , totally incorrect and in the long run
their
decision to not help me in the predicament I am in will do more damage to
the
tax payers money than if they gave me the few quid I was requesting now.
I say this , as God is my witness , after being treated like this I will
make it my
utmost intention to screw the system out of everything I can .I am going to
claim
for everything that every scrounger has been claiming for the last twenty
years
that I have worked.

Let me tell you a story . I tell this with no racially motivated discord .

I live in a largely populated ethnic area. I wont say ethnic minority
because its actually
50/50 . How do you think I feel when I go to the post office to collect my
£16.05
child benefit and the queue in front of me has about 5 or 6 Asian women .
Each one of
these is cashing a benefit book for about £350 to £400. I know these women's
husband
and yes , they do all work on the local taxis and curry houses. (this isnt
just the joke that
goes around this is actual fact .)

When I went for a crisis loan , and was refused , the woman at the side of
me was Asian
and could not speak English. well as much as " I no understand , I no
understand " would
lead you to believe that she couldn't .
Her translator with her was a six year old girl.
A SIX year old girl for gods sake was applying for a crisis loan. And did
she get it, You betcha
she did. It was quite obvious the DWP found it easier to give the family it
than be bothered
to find out the correct translation of " thisisadoddlethis
mustdoitmoreoften "
The system and those who work within it are a goddamn joke
From now on I will do exactly as all the rest. If I'm going to be made to
feel like a scrounger
then You betcha I am going to be one.
In fact I don't think I'll bother going back to work. I'm going to be a lazy
cow and sit at home
and screw the system for every penny I can.
And for those of you that say that is wrong and immoral ,well I'm sorry
but " I NO UNDERSTAND "

Mrs Smith
 
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Zoe Brown

Honestly I understand why you feel that you should have this money and you
will BUT you have just been asked to wait until the end of the month.

If you want to get on in this world you need to put this behind you - read
up on what you are entitled to and make a claim.

You will never be rich if you sit on benefits. You have worked hard for
many years and it is infuriating when you see people and think that they are
getting an easy ride. The women that you see in the Post office claiming
their £400 probably have just as many hardships as you - they would think
that you are rich earning your 15k or whatever a year.

Why don't you just sit tight for the next few weeks, claim for housing
benefit, IS, tax credit and the such like now. Speak with your landlord and
see if there is any way you can get your rent back for January that you paid
in advance. Don't pay anymore rent until your HB claim is processed and
then just pay the difference. If you are truly unable to pay any rent your
landlord must wait two months ( I think) before he can evict you - and then
you can become the councils responsibility and they can re-house you. Don't
pay council tax either and make a claim for rebate.

You have also been advised that you still may be able to get a crisis loan
if you are able to prove where your wages have gone.
 
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Pat Winstanley

In fact I don't think I'll bother going back to work. I'm going to be a lazy
cow and sit at home
That's what you have been claiming you are all along anyway... what's
new?
 
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Graham Innocent

The women that you see in the Post office claiming
their £400 probably have just as many hardships as you - they would think
that you are rich earning your 15k or whatever a year.
If they have more than one child it is highly unlikely that their
benefits plus their husbands' incomes total less than 15k per year.
If you are truly unable to pay any rent your landlord must wait two months (
I think) before he can evict you - and then
you can become the councils responsibility and they can re-house you.
Don't rely on the council to do this unless you have relatives who
would take you and your familly in temporarily in the worst case.
Relying on the council in this way could end up in you and your kids
ending up homeless.
Don't pay council tax either and make a claim for rebate.
I agree with this. Taxes of any kind should be the first on your list
of bills to ignore when in a financial crisis.

If you worked for 20 years, rather than take the easy route of the
long-term benefit claimant you must take some pride in self-reliance.
Don't let them take away your self-respect for the sake of a a few
grand.

IIRC You mentioned in another post that you have a partner living with
you.
Could your partner not get some quick cash by signing up with a temp
agency whilst you are unable to work ?
 
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Susan

Could your partner not get some quick cash by signing up with a temp
agency whilst you are unable to work ?
Yes , probably Graham ,
But with the week in hand he would have
to work , it would take us up to the 17th of Jan.
The day my I.S claim becomes valid . Any more income due then is only going
to affect that then . The DWP are confused enough as it is . I wouldn't want
to have to impose any more information on there tiny little brains . The
truth of the matter is Graham I have been too honest with them and it got me
nowhere. I should have told them my last full pay was at the end of November
and the next payment I was expecting was the £100 smp which was now going to
be paid weekly . That way my claim would have started immediately . By the
time they contacted my work ( after the holidays ) I would have at least had
some money off them . Signing the claim form " true to the best of my
knowledge " would simply have been that . I would have just pleaded
ignorance and said I hadn't been to the bank so I was unaware of the 90%
payment . Any overpayment in benefits would then be repaid weekly .
Have you ever seen the film "Trading
Places" . Well , similar to that , it is amazing , how the DWP can turn an
honest , hardworking , law abiding citizen into a scheming , lazy ,
conniving thief , in the space of a week .

Mrs Smith
 
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Zoe Brown

The women that you see in the Post office claiming
If they have more than one child it is highly unlikely that their
benefits plus their husbands' incomes total less than 15k per year.
her husband does not work (at the moment) and I said *earnings* - thus not
including benefits...
 
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Zoe Brown

In fact I don't think I'll bother going back to work. I'm going to be a
lazy
That's what you have been claiming you are all along anyway... what's
new?
Pat - I think this is uncalled for. Susan may have made some mistakes in
managing her money but only in the last few weeks...and she certainly hasn't
even hinted at being lazy.
 
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Graham Innocent

Zoe Brown said:
her husband does not work (at the moment) and I said *earnings* - thus not
including benefits...

I was talking about the _other_ women's husbands. You know, the ones
she mentioned who worked as Taxi drivers and Waiters. If the benefits
plus income equal 15k or more than the 15k earned by somebody working
full time, then they would be _richer_ than the person who has to work
full time. Why would that be so even if the incomes were equal ?

because the people whose income is partly comprised of benefit
payments haven't had to trade as much personal free time to get that
money as a worker on 15k a year would.
 
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Pat Winstanley

I was talking about the _other_ women's husbands. You know, the ones
she mentioned who worked as Taxi drivers and Waiters. If the benefits
plus income equal 15k or more than the 15k earned by somebody working
full time, then they would be _richer_ than the person who has to work
full time. Why would that be so even if the incomes were equal ?

because the people whose income is partly comprised of benefit
payments haven't had to trade as much personal free time to get that
money as a worker on 15k a year would.
Except, of course, where they are working full-time but for a low rate
of pay and hence get benefits to top that up.

Since no mention was made of whether or not the waiters, taxi drivers
etc (low paid occupations for the most part - min wage sort of level -
about 10k gross full time) were working full or part time you appear to
be jumping to conclusions from insufficient evidence.
 
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Susan

Just thought I'd let you all know I got the £100 crisis loan I asked for on
Monday .
Payable back at £8.37 per week when my benefit starts on the 17th . Not
exactly loaded
but it helps .( makes me wish I'd asked for more now )
 

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