Windows 7


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Sam Spade

Would like to hear from anyone using Windows 7 and installed Q2010 from disc
as to how it worked.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Sam.

I've been running Win7, starting with the pre-beta over a year ago and RTM
since August. I ran Q2009 Deluxe until getting Q2010 Deluxe about a month
ago. No problems with any of this.

If you have a specific question, please ask it - and tell us what hardware
and operating system (Win7 Basic x86 or Win7 Ultimate x64 or something in
between) you will be running, and which version of Q2010.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)
 
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---Fitz---

Sam Spade said:
Would like to hear from anyone using Windows 7 and installed Q2010 from
disc as to how it worked.
Works fine for me. Q10 Premier.
 
S

Sam Spade

Thanks RC. Can I assume then after that, that I take my backup from my old
pc which I have on a flash drive and "load" that into the Windows 7 pc?
TIA
 
S

SunCityCal

Would like to hear from anyone using Windows 7 and installed Q2010 from disc
as to how it worked.
Recently upgraded from Vista to Win 7. Then installed Q.2010 deluxe.
Works fine - no problems.
 
S

SunCityCal

Thanks RC. Can I assume then after that, that I take my backup from my old
pc which I have on a flash drive and "load" that into the Windows 7 pc?
TIA









- Show quoted text -
Didn't completely answer your questions. .......
After installing, RESTORE your back-up from you flashdrive.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Sam.

Yep! And by "my backup", I hope you mean only your QDF (and related data
files). No need to transfer your Quicken program, of course; just install
Q2010 on your new PC. Then you can have Q2010 either Open or Restore that
data file. Q2010 will want to Convert your 09 file to its 10 format when
you first load it, but will save a copy in a new Q09Files folder - just as
for prior yearly updates. When you first manually Backup your new file, be
sure that you point it to the new Destination FOLDER of your choice.

Note that Q2010 has a new format for Backup, and that Intuit already revised
that backup system in Release R 3. The main difference is that the QDF file
is now much bigger because it includes all the data formerly kept in the QEL
and other related data files.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)
 
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Sam Spade

Just as an aside. from what I'm checking Windows for Dummies 7, it appears
that W7 comes with many problems for like printers etc.. I happen to use
Window Washer and they have said it's not compatible for W7. Just wondering
if you bought the "magic" line that runs from USB old pc to USB new pc and
if so what was it's name and how did it work. Ah computers!!
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Sam.

No, I have only ONE PC. But it has several HDDs with lots of room
available, so my "old" computer and my "new" computer are the same machine.
When I updated from the beta to the final Win7, I just ran WET (Windows Easy
Transfer) on the "old" computer first and stored the output onto a "neutral"
partition. Then I booted into the "new" Win7 and ran WET again, retrieving
the data from that partition. No "magic" cable, no thumb drive, no network,
no nothing but my one computer. ;<)

A few years ago I tried to transfer some data to a relative's computer using
the Belkin USB cable (I forgot its name). It was terribly slow, but that
was with the old USB 1.0, not the current 2.0, which is many times faster.

I haven't read Win7 for Dummies, but I've heard fewer complaints about
compatibility problems - with printers or anything else - than with Vista.
The last such problem I had was with Windows 2000 nearly 10 years ago. It
took HP 2 years to update their drivers for my HP OfficeJet G55, and by then
I had learned to just use the default drivers in Win2K. That printer
effortlessly made the transition to WinXP, then to Vista and now to Win7.

If you mention the make and model of your printer(s), someone here may
recognize it and have some specific advice.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)
 
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MrEos

I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This requires
reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be going from Qkn07
Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this year.

My questions are:

(1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then use
that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the current Qkn07
data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?

(2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
supervalidation do, anyway?

(3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
 
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Hank Arnold

MrEos said:
I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This requires
reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be going from Qkn07
Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this year.

My questions are:

(1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then use
that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the current Qkn07
data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?

(2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
supervalidation do, anyway?

(3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
This is basically the process I use whenever I upgrade or move Q to
another computer....

1) use the Q07 utility to back up the database on the old computer. Put
it in a folder by themselves.

2) I like to use the "copy" function in Q to create another backup. It's
not as important as before. It used to make a big difference by
shrinking the database size. I still do it as another "disaster
recovery" option. Put the copy in another folder by itself.

3) print several reports that will let you verify that the data was
migrated properly

4) use the validate function on the copy you made to check the integrity
of the database. Most migration problems can be attributed to problem
with the original database. Fix any problems that are identified.

5) if there were errors or corrections made, re-print the step 3 reports
and verify that thing are still OK.

6) Copy the 2 backups you made to the new computer.

7) install Q10. It will ask if you have an existing copy. Point it to
the backup you want to migrate. Q will make another backup and then
upgrade the data.

8) re-print the reports in step 3 and verify that the data integrity was
preserved. Obviously, resolve and differences.

That's it. A bit anal and tedious, but you are guaranteed to not lose
any data....

*Avoid super validation*. This is a last resort used to try and fix a
problem database. It can destroy a database as easily as fix it. It's
usually done only at the recommendation of Intuit tech support. If you
insist on trying it, be sure to do it only on a backup copy of the
database and use those reports to assure nothing was nuked....

BTW, I have on one or two occasions just taken the leap, upgraded and
have never had a problem..... It's risky, though, considering the
importance of what you are dealing with....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/
 
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Han

I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This
requires reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be
going from Qkn07 Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this
year.

My questions are:

(1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then
use that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the
current Qkn07 data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?

(2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
supervalidation do, anyway?

(3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
I completely agree with all that Hank stated. Basically, backups and
copies are your friends. Are you going to keep your old computer for a
while? In that case you can keep comparing data on the 2 machines for a
while.

As far as the newsreader is concerned, I am partial to Xnews. It does
all I want it to do. Others use Agent in some form. There is a
newsgroup dedicated to newsreaders, I believe it is:
alt.comp.software.newsreaders
Hanging out there may give you ideas.
I believe there are also websites with info.
Lastly, there is info in alt.privacy.spyware for safekeeping your machine
(s). Jst stay away from the continuing pissing contests. David Lipman
is a good guy!! The "opposition" is a bunch of lowlifes.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, MrEos.

Basically, I agree with Hank and Han. But, as usual, I have a few comments
of my own.

MrEos said:
I am about to migrate from XP to Win7 Home Premium 64bit. This requires
reformatting and reinstalling all software. Also will be going from Qkn07
Premium to Qkn2010 Deluxe. Santa gave software this year.
Thanks for these details. Just a couple of questions remaining:
1. Is this all on a single computer? Or did Santa bring new hardware,
too?
2. Will you be dual-booting WinXP/Win7 for a while?
My questions are:

(1) Should I install Qkn10 on the existing XP, then backup data, then use
that data after migration? Or, is it sufficient to backup the current
Qkn07 data and restore with Qkn10 after the migration?
No, do not go through the extra steps of installing Q10 on WinXP. Just
install Q10 in Win7. Then Open your Q07 QDF file in Q10. Quicken will do
all the work of converting, including saving a copy of the old data in
Q07Files.

As for backup: This is why I asked about the hardware above. If Q10 is on
new hardware, then all your old files will still be available on your old
hardware until you get rid of that in some way. To transfer your data to
the new computer, just use Q07 on the old computer to Backup your QDF file
to a thumb drive, then have Q10 Open that file from that thumb drive.

(In my own single-computer dual-boot system, which I've often mentioned
here, I simply installed Q10 in Win7 into the same E:\QuickenW folder where
Q09 has always been, then Opened the Q09 QDF file in Q10 and let it do the
conversion. Within a few minutes, Q10 was up and running with all my data
back to 1990. ;<) But I know that idea won't work for most users.)

(2) Anything else I should do as part of this? What the heck does
supervalidation do, anyway?
I've Validated a few times, but agree with the others that this should be
done on a COPY of your live data, so that you have a backup...just in case.
And I don't recall that I ever Supervalidated; maybe once over 10 years ago
when I was having hard disk problems and had to ask Quicken Tech Support for
help and guidance.

(3) I currently use Outlook Express to read newsgroups. Win7 no longer
provides it. What programs should I consider for nntp?
Win7 does not come with ANY mail or news client at all. There are dozens of
programs, both good and bad, both free and not, out there. My choice is
Windows Live Mail, which is free for the download (along with any other of
the Windows Live Essentials that you might choose) from
http://download.live.com . WLM is certainly not the same program as OE, but
its interface is similar in many ways and an OE user can get comfy with it
pretty easily. I haven't even tried anything but OE/WM/WLM in recent years,
so I can't comment on any others.


RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Using Quicken Deluxe 2010 and Windows Live Mail in Win7 x64)
 
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B

If you don't already have one, investing in a large external USB
connected harddrive is going to be very useful before you begin this
migration. It is also the approach that Microsoft recommends. You can
create your Quicken backup on the external drive and also copy your "My
Documents" and a;; of your other data to the external drive.

After you have Windows 7 installed and all the updates applied you can
install Quicken 2010 and have it restore the backup from your external
drive. It will do the conversion. You can decide to rename it and save
it on your computer's harddrive then too.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a very popular, free e-mail program that also
handles newsgroups. It is what I have used for years.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
 
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MrEos

Thanks for the tips. Probably will spend New Year's Day backing up
everything, reformatting the hard drive, and reinstalling. Hardware remains
the same, and all checks "OK" with the win7 upgrade advisor software. The
elves got confused on the external HD, so Santa failed to deliver. Nothing
explains Santa leaving Two copies of Qkn. Probably drunk. Again.

I'll report back anything noteworthy with respect to Qkn.
 
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MrEos

Noteworthy in the migration was the loss of Quicken Home Inventory Manager
(not the free QHI program that comes with Qkn). QHIM would not install under
win 7 x64. Moreover, the data file is not compatible with QHI. Poop.
 
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